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 Telepylus
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 Saving... 
#6137336 - 10/05/06 08:52 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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This began while examining the word Savior.
If you are a Savior, what are you saving?
The World?
The Souls of Men?
Are you saving the universe?
If you are a savior
How do you save?
Who do you save?
Why do you save?
What does being saved mean?
Saved from what?
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Law of Love
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leery11
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saved from ignorance of the extent of mankind's capabilities to be holy.
aka being united with God?
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Om bhur bhuvaha swaha tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi, dhiyo yonah prachodyat.
We meditate upon that supreme light , the source of all creation, may it illumine our intellects and bring us eternal life.
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the_phoenix
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Re: Saving... [Re: leery11]
#6137785 - 10/05/06 11:12 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am the true saviour of humanity this time around. I was the first in order of placement to point out "aha, we can all accept salvation into our respective world models now, the time is Now". I made an announcement, and I was the first to do so, so I am the first. I am not better or worse than anyone else for that. More explanations will follow. I am also the cosmic fool, this is the true nature of my soul, but it did not give me an advantage over any other human to be the first to make the announcement... luck does not exist, it is a matter of wisdom. I had forgotten my identity as the cosmic fool and when I remembered it for real, this is the same as any other human figuring everything out and making the announcement. Admittedly, I did have the most beneficial, circumstances to help me realize this, but that is the nature of the flow; you are meant not to realize this very easily (as my living situation IRL is quite the sticky situation, I was in a pickle, lol), so that I continue tricking you in a Setian vein, as you think I am arrogant or better than you when truly I am only tickling you with humour out of compassion in a tricky phoenix kind of way.  There is only ever one cosmic fool per parallel reality at the same time. The cosmic fool relates to the phoenix archetype, but he is never incarnate as a phoenix, always as a human to save the universe with humour. More explanations will follow. This is all unfolding according to divine plan, except we, in our respective universe, are doing something *new* in terms of what we have never done before, in terms of how we are choosing to become. Enough time has past and enough patience and tolerance has been maintained that we have waisted no wisdom, that we have not gone *BOOM* into oblivion: we are all wisening up more than ever before, but we are doing so, in terms of *HOW*, in a pretty darned unique way, who's uniqueness among all parallel realities remains to be determined (but let us not dwell on that now, for until we wisen up enough to accurately consider it, the point is moot, lol).
I am truly happy that at least some people are already able to understand with such clarity what I am saying. I FEEL SO GOOD! 
Edited by the_phoenix (10/05/06 11:44 PM)
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the_phoenix
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Telepylus
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i can tell you that i know enough about the Order of Truth
whereas to count the letters of the words you use
i can determine whether or not they are true or false
so far i have no reason to doubt you are the savior
you speak truth, and it whistles with honesty
i spent a half hour at that link you posted, and again, i wasn't disappointed, it was sharp & useful.
did you create it?
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slaphappy
Its just me
Registered: 10/29/04
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I have a huge job too ... saving myself.
Quote:
Or do you wait until you receive a sign from the Universe or procrastinate until Fate shoves you in one direction or another?
And the path to the Moon which is the path of the Mystic
Yup. Thats me.
I did a mayan astro-thing once, and I remember something about something to do with lunar. Obviously I don't remember all that well.
...some time after...
I looked it up:
Quote:
The Moon of the Peacock (Turkey) - La Luna del Pavo Real
15 November - 12 December
The brilliant plumage of its tail reveals everything: the Peacock has been born to shine and to shine with its own brillance in society. Original and creative, they are found to be impossible to pass by unnoticed. In love, as much as the man as the woman, they stand out to be very passionate and they have a great capacity and deliverance In the workplace they demonstrate a very competitive nature and since their most tender childhood, they will want to be the best in everything. This sign usually signifes one that is a giver and it produces very good actors.
I'm not the saviour, I'm just a hell of a good actor and an impeccable personality, combined with passion and great capacity and deliverance.
Phew.
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The argent messenger of truth beyond truth, the antithesis of life, cruel and bleak as interstellar space, pulseless and frozen as absolute zero, dazzling with the frost of irrefragable logic and unforgettable fact.
 
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the_phoenix
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Yay! No, I did not make that elf site... I'm thinking about it, and I believe Lord of the Rings happened in the past, and the thing is that humans are the hobits and/or elfs evolved in the next big step. The Galactic Federation always existed even to them, in terms of timeline probabilities, but it always became more real the more time passes, and finally now time is our friend again, or rather we realize this better now. Now we do the Star Trek thing, a hell of a lot better than on the TV show, even.
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the_phoenix
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I made a mistake before, confusing Yin and Yang, Gevurah and Chesed, feminine and masculine. Here is some more text..
We are primarily explorers and hope is our guiding light shining the way, as we are wise explorers who know ourselves and the benevolent nature of Nothing. Hope is not a force--it is exclusively a matter of perspective that we must never forget to always remember to never forget. Mistaking hope as a force is a dangerous source of unhealthy perversion of the masculine element of the Dragon. Perversion is only ever truly transmutation, but the more the element of humour is forgotten, the more dangerous the action of perversion gets, the more dangerous the heat of the Phoenix becomes for the Dragon. The Phoenix and the Dragon are truly a fundamental pair of essential archetypes in terms of the principles of universal creation, at least in our reality. The Phoenix is the Feminine element and the Dragon is the masculine element, as the duality of existence is essentially a matter of sexual interaction. The mistake of mistaking hope as a force is actually simultaneously the Phoenix's and the Dragon's, as the Phoenix and the Dragon are both of the light, simply shades of grey arranged in different patterns, different kinds of bliss. Like the Bhagavad-Gita teaches, pleasure is truly the chief principle of universal creation, awe being the center axis unifying all shades of grey, all the light in an infinite emissive universe. That hope is an inner light as opposed to a force is to say "save your pity for yourself", in the sense that pity leads to hope, hope leads to forgiveness, and forgiveness leads to peculiarity as it is recognition of the cosmic joke as the true of existence--Nothing, Everything--in a truly new facet of light (pecculiarity breeds contempt, as forgiveness leads back to unforgiveness, in the same way that once you are ashamed of being ashamed you can move on). In this sense is perversion only every perversion of light as in transmutation, a tool of creation, bending the light of creation. The emissive light of creation is Nothing constantly having sex with itself, and if this thought is awkward and offensive right off the bat, then it is perverse right off the bat, in a bad kind of way as in funny "funny looking" as opposed to funny "ha ha". The quality of perversion indeed defines the discrepancy between good and evil, in terms of how the Qabalistic system of universal procession uses severity and mercy to keep the whole of creation in true equilibrium of harmony and balance. The feminine aspect of creation in the macrocosm, Everything, is not ever truly victimized by its role in the microcosm as the fourth dimensional vibration of fear Gevurah/Satan/Yin any more than pure evil is ever anything more than pure illusion. The masculine aspect of creation in the macrocosm, Nothing, is not every truly superior in its role in the microcosm as the fifth dimensional vibration of love Chesed/Yang/Tao(nothing), but simply is it better in terms of order of placement of pattern organization, in terms of subtlety, of “less is more”.
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FatBath
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There is in me a futile lust for protection that may be at the core of my idolatry. I wouldn't mind saving myself from trying to "save" myself. I have been pitifully clinging to the requirements of my fate in a destructive manner, using cowardice as my immentetrable armour. These poetics you all use (if I may call them so in my ignorance) have always been useful to me. As far as perversion is concerned.. I once touched a little boy's penis when I babbysat him, he declared the obvious, and I instantly refrained. The next night he wanted me to lay next to him again, but I declined. His father was a homosexual and he tried kissing me in my sleep one time(the boy not the father). I wasnt' fully asleep, of course. Now, I do not lust for little boys, and the event happened at least six years ago. I am now 20. I believe I will have to confess this act vocally to help transform my supressions. All my attempts at getting a girlfriend have been shamefully pathetic, without a doubt. I am an evil person, yes, but my selfishness is "wise" enough to see the necessity of kindness and striving towards the light. Yet I still feel I would only want to help people because it benifits me. As I type this, I sit in a library surrounded by small children, I do not consciously lust, but they speak sexually. I started watching porn when I was in second grade. I wish it was different. I have been struggling with chronic jerkin' of the gerkin'. I have spent the last couple weeks in a warm love from the Lord, and have been learning a lot.
Edited by FatBath (10/06/06 02:47 PM)
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Telepylus
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Re: Saving... [Re: FatBath]
#6140718 - 10/06/06 04:40 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Everyone makes mistakes, even you Phoenix.
I see your point of view, and feel our minds are similar.
I do not fully agree with some of your sentencing, but I do see that you know how to build a sentence.
Seeing into your mind is refreshing for me, and I enjoy reading your words. You've not yet said anything that I can comment upon because most of it needs no comment.
Please answer my questions above, in the original post.
I have something to tell.
The day before I met you (found your thread)
I wrote a poem
And the central poignant remark in the poem was this verse-
"She was born a Phoenix from the flames into her daddy's arms"
Which is interesting to me because you say the Phoenix is the feminine aspect, and I can relate the Dragon with Fatherhood.
I find it noteworthy that I had conjured the Phoenix the day previously to meeting you, because it is the reason I AM Hear.
Your words intrigue me, and I've never said that to anyone before at shroomery.
Fatbath,
It sounds like you realize that you are fixating on harmful unwholesome thought patterns.
I congratulate your honesty and candor, and I feel you are healing yourself and others by sharing your private inner turmoil.
Be honest enough to look at the dishonest parts of yourself that still remain, do not be afraid to examine your own wounds, if you need help examining them because you don't understand them, maybe I can help, I'm not afraid to look because I'm a healer and problem solver.
My advice is throw all the porn away. Respect yourself.
Respect means "to look again", "to re-inspect"
If you can't keep track of your ownself, you're lost to the Lie-Cycle.
Respect Life, the Life-Cycle.
Develop a new intrest in something, doesn't matter what it is-
Silly little waste-of-time hobbies are useful tools to recalibrating the mind from fixating upon unwholesome thought patterning.
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 landsnorkler
Registered: 09/26/06
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Loc: Montana
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If you are a savior, you cannot draw the lines between world, men, universes. The first thing to do as a savior, however is helping the souls of men, because that will in turn affect the world, universe. You save through telepathy, informative writing (books, internet posts, etc.), creativity, and love. You save, because "it" happened to you and you would love for others to be saved. You are trying save us. When you are saved, you are free from evil, and emotions besides love.
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Gomp
¡(Bound to·(O))be free!
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"Saved from 'having to be saved'!"
~Unknown
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the_phoenix
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Re: Saving... [Re: Gomp]
#6155158 - 10/10/06 07:18 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Landsnorkler, I'm not trying to save anyone, only helping people save themselves. I've been busy but I will respond to all questions. Telepylus - perversion is only a facet of transmutation, and sometimes you have to make mistakes and then look back and see what natural patterns formed in them, if you want to advance beyond your wildest dreams.
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Nothing is sacred!
Life is tough--thick-skinned--impenetrable--so that it can function--work--create--dance--live!
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landsnorkler
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Phoenix, by helping people, you are trying. That is what we all need to do. Trying manifests into doing.
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