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 NizzyJones
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 My last Salvia experience
#6059996 - 09/14/06 07:24 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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This was all awhile ago but I've got some free time and thought I'd share.
The Background: My first experience with salvia was about 9 mounths before this experience, and nearly every strong salvia experience I've had had similar themes. In total I've had about four level 3+ trips and a few minor experiences.
The Set & Setting: I had been looking forward to getting some Syd which fell through and without any green around either I decided to dip into my salvia. I had about half a small vial of fortified (10x) leaf kicking around my stash box from the last time I'd bought it. I had my bong and stash box upstairs in my favorite room for smoking - bean bag chairs, nice bright decor, sky lights.
The Trip: I packed my slide with ~0.25 g of the fortified leaf, and settled back into a bean bag chair. I torched it took a full sized 18" bong rip  . I held it for at least 45 seconds, making sure to set my bong down well away from myself. Even as I held the hit an internal voice was saying 'Okay that's enough.... Time to exhale.... Niz, why are you still holding it?' As I exhaled I felt the firmiliar nerve tingling coming up, I sat back and closed my eyes to let the salvia take me. As I often do during the coming up of my more intense trips with salvia I felt like I was turning around at an unnatural angle. The feeling is always accompanied with the idea of being forcibly ripped away from our normal space-time. I get the picture (not so much visually as intuitively) of the universe being a single plane between many other planes of reality. The image is rather like a book, suspended in some extra-demensional space. The book is open to our universe and as I feel myself floating away from it into the extra-demensional space I 'see' the pages flip to other universes but I'm unable to get a sense of what these universes are or what they might contain. All of these sensations are taking place in what is about ten seconds of subjective time.
I sense the presence of beings (the salvia entities) around me in the extra-demensional space. This, again, is more or less normal for a strong experience but this is the most direct communication I've ever had with them. In past experiences I'd felt they had a vauguely benign desire for me to stay with them. Now I 'hear' them, as if by telepathy, telling me that I am meant to stay there - where ever there is. At this point I feel my actual body breaking out in a cold sweat and the entities become more insistant to the point where I'm unable to precieve any induvidual thought but only get a general idea of them expending their energy to hold me away from returning to 'reality'.
At this point I'm paniced and quite certain that I don't want to stay there. I force my eyes open but still feel the presence of the entities. Through the pure adrenal strength of my fear I force myself up out of the bean bag chair and quickly walk downstairs. As I leave the room I dosed in behind I loose contact with the entities but can still feel the typical jittery buzz that salvia always leaves me with - only much more strongly than usual. I go downstairs, drink a glass of juice and sit taking deep breaths until the salvia buzz has deminished.
That was about three months ago and I haven't gone back to sally since. I gave away the rest of my vial, having decided that I need to get my head in a different place before I try to go back there.
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Wildflower seed on the sand and stone, may the four winds blow you safely home
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 redgreenvines
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 Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: NizzyJones]
#6060932 - 09/14/06 12:41 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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yup
level 5
i like the spelling for "dimension" crossed with demented: "demension"
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NizzyJones
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ha ha... yeah... that was.. uhh.. intentional, yeah :P
*can't spell*
Though it just goes to show I've read too much about dementia :P
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inbetweenone
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Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: NizzyJones]
#6083678 - 09/20/06 06:27 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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great report - thank you for putting your experience into those words, because that is exactly how I felt the last couple times I went way out on salvia.
i try to go in with such an open mind and you do feel like you're never going to leave there sometimes. i always sort of panic when you see reality in that book form. like it's closing that part of it and you're never going back. the salvia entities intrigue me a lot, i can sense they're not some earthly moral good/evil. however i have the feeling they don't necessarily have my interests as a human being in mind! i thought a couple had been whispering to me a few times, but i can never quite hear them. its like they're answering whats going on but they aren't supposed to or something.
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NizzyJones
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Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: inbetweenone]
#6084031 - 09/20/06 07:31 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's very difficult to really prepare for a salvia experience, or to keep an open mind once you get there.
I've decided that I want to give the entities another visit and see if I can take something more back from it. I've been getting back into meditation (again....) and I expect that will help some. But it'll probably be awhile yet.
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Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: NizzyJones]
#6085465 - 09/21/06 02:22 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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its hard to take back much from a salvia experience. the words that come to your mind pop out of your ears and wedge themselves in the patterns of salvia land. rarely to wiggle themselfs free and make the trip back with you. words are constantly crushing together like crosscurrents.
i keep an open mind rather nice at level 4, its my favorite level of salvia space.
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notapillow
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Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: CptnGarden]
#6118412 - 09/30/06 11:38 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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great report. thats almost an the exact same thing that happened to me when i smoked it 2 days ago. sept when i freaked out it was because some how when i dropped out of the open book, fractured flippy page reality nexus. i was nside my room. and i smoked it outside in my yard. 
i too ran to get some juice and tried to shake of the rippling feeling of hyperdemetional traval
glad we both made it back ok
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Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: NizzyJones]
#6120276 - 09/30/06 11:59 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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This salvia trip report is by far the most reflective of the kinds of experiences I've had with salvia. I smoked last week, 2 hits from a wooden pipe of 10x, and I also heard an internal voice telling me that I should exhale, then I began to hear and see in my mind's eye (as well as CEVs) the salvia entities... the thing is... I knew these entities were using my memories to lure me into some sort of salvia hyperspace black hole that led to another dimension. I went to Cuba last month and one entity took on a persona of a Cuban gentleman asking me to let go and be at ease with the flow, then another entity, a feminine peasant, was acting out a scene from a documentary I saw earlier, but none the less, I knew these enties were capable of knowing my memories in order to ease my transition to another dimension, to comfort me with my own thoughts.
I kept asking them "where are we going?" but they just told me to relax and go with them, that everything will be okay. While all this was happening I felt my inner conciousness, or spiritual presence getting pulled into another plane... and i was just amazed thinking that there is no way I'll be able to explain this when I come down, nobody can accurately express this sort of experience because it would be just silly to even try. I was very reluctant to go to this dimension they were taking me to and I forced myself to 'snap out of it', but if I smoked another hit then there would be no choice, i'd be catapulted into the unknown!
What a fascinating plant salvia is, I just can't quite put my finger on the whole thing, but that's okay. We are all pushing the frontiers of the unknown everytime we allow salvia to enter our brain chemistry. Keep on tripping and be safe 
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Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: chodamunky]
#6121028 - 10/01/06 10:07 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Language and regular ideas work less well than
such poetic inferences that
evoke many possible images but select none particularly.
here after one inhallation of salvinorin paper while lying in bed,
my sitter visited to check but I ignored her to write.
additions comments and edits in brackets, transcription in bold:
10:43 AM: -exhalation... then A kaleidoscoping,
(layering candy colorations)
sensations seem to tunnel,
(any single sensation -thought form- can be followed more deeply seeming to deform the "flat" experience of the world)
gardens and universes,
(trying to indicate that the tunnels are rich not barren cold or frightening)
and gravel yards and fruit flight and
knuckles and fingertips and
(if I don't follow the cues or circular openings represented by any arbitrary visual fragment or thought form, then the view fills kaleidoscopically with the fragments that are typified by things like fingertips or knuckles or fruit...)
lampshades – or all points of light or loops of color pressure like the loops of letters or words.
(at a higher dose the loopps would have taken on presence like faces and people but here just color pressure, or color jelly.)
10:46 AM: still fluttering but not raging, sunlight fills the room completely – every part of it still.
(when I say every part of the room I mean the parts we don't normally detect, the extra layers were filled of sunlight jelly)
10:47 AM: some heat and stretch tear sensation on skin
10:49 AM; 90% over.
10:51 AM: refreshed energized relaxed, tingle all over.
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pavilion4400
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Sounds a lot like my hard trips! I also have that 'one dimension' feeling. And then it feels like I'm being ripped away from the other dimensions. It helps to hang on to someone (preferably opposite sex) because it feels like I'm being blown away like a newscaster in a tornado.
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colimon
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Re: My last Salvia experience [Re: pavilion4400]
#6129837 - 10/03/06 06:15 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have not quite been at that stage. I'd say I've been at a 4 or a 4.5 before, but definately not a 5. I always have a strong feeling (not a voice) to exhale, and when I feel I have to, I begin to go on my journey. My most intense trip was one where poster were discussing about a guitar. After an other hit that I held in until it was mindboggling, I discovered yet a new world. I saw rather large wooden chairs that were too comforatable to even imagine, the trip was actually relaxing for once. I also encountered a mysterious lady that I have never seen before. She looked like a fairy, but not quite human also. She explained to me that this was the world of comfort and stuff... Rather amazing what you encounter on this... Great report!
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I believe with the advent of acid we discovered new way to think and it had to
do with piecing together new thoughts of mind. Why is it that people think it's
so evil? What is it about it that there is scares people so deeply? Because
they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have ever confronted.
That there are doors that they're afraid to go in and they don't want us to go
in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they
don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control.
Edited by colimon (10/03/06 06:21 PM)
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