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too_many_weirdos
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Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?)
#592001 - 03/28/02 02:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have some Soy protein stuff lying around (i'm a vegetarian), and i'm wondering if adding like a 1/4 cup or something to my regular PF substrate would increase crop and/or alkaloid content...
anyone?
p.s. sorry about the cross-post; regular cultivation forum is useless, and my post got swamped quick.
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too_many_weirdos
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
#594326 - 03/31/02 05:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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^BUMP^
man you guys are lame...come on...
doesn't somebody know if this would be a good addition to my substrate?
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
#594342 - 03/31/02 06:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only way to find out is experiment with it and if any good share your results.
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
#594344 - 03/31/02 06:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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soy protein is widely used in mushroom industry as supplement...but it won't work in pf jars...you need to add the proteins to a bulk substrate when spawning..
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too_many_weirdos
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
#594364 - 03/31/02 06:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Muchas gracias senores =)
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
#594366 - 03/31/02 06:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not really sure, but if it's like corn gluten then you will want to heat it. Read a patent recently that said that corn gluten which wasn't cooked sucked as an additive. Something about denaturing it or something. If you are adding to jars, I gues it will get heated enough during sterilization. If you are using it for bulks, try cooking it first.
And I don't know why it wouldn't work in pf jars.
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#594973 - 03/31/02 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: Moe Howard]
#595168 - 04/01/02 01:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've tried adding nutrients. LOL. Best to keep it simple & straight forward.
But, since your into veggies & grains, popped popcorn added to compost works great. Grin, w/hot air popper, you can really pop up a huge garbage bag full in no time at all & it's cheap. It also holds water -- well.
Ever use Lucerne meal? I am about to test that out in a quasi/compost.
Meaning -- chopped straw, manure, Lucerne meal, popcorn mix. Lightly composted, then sterilized. A small amount of pasturized only straw is going to be added after cooling to reintroduce the good things sterilization takes away from a substrate.
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
#595186 - 04/01/02 02:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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...and you can do this without getting contams galore?
Tell me more.....
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SixTango
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What's to tell. It's a test of quasi/compost. Just sterlized. Then a small amount of pasturized straw is introduduced into the sterilized compost, then colonized grain added 20% grain to 80% compost, then after it is all colonized, it will be cased.
BlueHoney had it in one of her compost write ups. Hers just lacked the popcorn & pasturized straw was not introduced. Simple as that. I'm working on it now. If you like I will EM you the results of my little test.
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Off topic, I have tried 15 times to post a logo picture where the X is in my posts. Is there some secret to it. I upload the picture - C&P the data & always get an X?
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: SixTango]
#595213 - 04/01/02 03:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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actually I was talking to Club99....
as for uploading avatars, make sure it's less than 125k and in. jpeg or .gif format, with no spaces in the title
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CLuB99
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you must sterilize the supplement before adding it to the bulk substrate...btw i'm talking about stuff like spawnmate wich is soy protein based...
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: SixTango]
#595374 - 04/01/02 08:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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simply cut and paste this link for your avatar : http://shroomery.org/wwwthreads/files/36524-f18.jpg
the link you provided is wrong....check the properties over the "x"
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
#595381 - 04/01/02 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Many thanks to you CluB99.
I simply followed the instructions. LOL. Except, I was following the WRONG ones.
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
#595410 - 04/01/02 09:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm, so I'm guessing that plain old soya mince from the health food shop will not do the job?
Sounded too good to be true.....
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CLuB99
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another good supplement is rape seed.
There's a patent about it, they dry in the oven the seeds to eliminate germination,then is added when spawning
mmm quite sure that there's no need to sterilize it.
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