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 Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? 
#5763334 - 06/18/06 07:37 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Vote and discuss
With regulation I mean that drugs would only be available in something like a recreational pharmacy. So that advice can be given and there could be checks on people. Like if they are using a lot of stuff a social worker could be sent to their place.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5771486 - 06/20/06 06:27 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm also surprised by this poll. I would have thought there will still a lot of people who'd think that legelisation would be ruinious for a society i.e. still brainwashed by the government.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5775512 - 06/21/06 07:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Most people agree that they should be legal with some regulation to them.
Age being the main factor
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: niteowl]
#5777179 - 06/21/06 06:56 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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straight up drugs should be regulated.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: johnypotsmoker]
#5779659 - 06/22/06 08:07 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Viva la Mexico!!!!!
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: XbollweevilX]
#5780483 - 06/22/06 03:23 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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some drugs should be legal, but not drugs like cocain and heroin
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: David_vs_Goliath]
#5780549 - 06/22/06 03:41 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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David_vs_Goliath said:
some drugs should be legal, but not drugs like cocain and heroin
I couldn't disagree more. Cocaine and heroin are made more dangerous by being illegal. They are cut with other chemicals and sold by dangerous thugs who make a fortune off of it, maintaining their business through violent means. If they were legal, they could be sold by legitimate businesses that work and compete within the law, rather than resorting to the turf wars we see today. Quality could be regulated, and it could be more effectively kept out of the hands of minors. Addicts could be treated, overdoses and poisonings would decline, and the streets would be free from so much of the violence that surrounds the drug business today.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5781489 - 06/22/06 09:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I choose option 2.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: Silversoul]
#5781987 - 06/22/06 11:24 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Silversoul said:
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David_vs_Goliath said:
some drugs should be legal, but not drugs like cocain and heroin
I couldn't disagree more. Cocaine and heroin are made more dangerous by being illegal. They are cut with other chemicals and sold by dangerous thugs who make a fortune off of it, maintaining their business through violent means. If they were legal, they could be sold by legitimate businesses that work and compete within the law, rather than resorting to the turf wars we see today. Quality could be regulated, and it could be more effectively kept out of the hands of minors. Addicts could be treated, overdoses and poisonings would decline, and the streets would be free from so much of the violence that surrounds the drug business today.
I totally agree. 
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5782372 - 06/23/06 01:12 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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arent drugs legal in mexico?
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: dudefromaz]
#5782754 - 06/23/06 03:39 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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dudefromaz said:
arent drugs legal in mexico?
No. In fact, Federalis can be much bigger assholes about it than American cops. Of course, since they're so corrupt, they'll leave you alone if the price is right.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5788650 - 06/25/06 07:10 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Microcosmatrix said:
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Silversoul said:
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David_vs_Goliath said:
some drugs should be legal, but not drugs like cocain and heroin
I couldn't disagree more. Cocaine and heroin are made more dangerous by being illegal. They are cut with other chemicals and sold by dangerous thugs who make a fortune off of it, maintaining their business through violent means. If they were legal, they could be sold by legitimate businesses that work and compete within the law, rather than resorting to the turf wars we see today. Quality could be regulated, and it could be more effectively kept out of the hands of minors. Addicts could be treated, overdoses and poisonings would decline, and the streets would be free from so much of the violence that surrounds the drug business today.
I totally agree.
Exactly
Even if you disregard this then there's always the principle of freedom. How can one be free if the government decides what they can and cannot put into their body?
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: cybrbeast]
#10229286 - 04/25/09 01:05 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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I second what Silversoul says. Regulation can make things safer (though there will always be a black market, even if it is legalized).
Here's the problem though: heroin and cocaine are TOXINS. They will actually fucking kill you. LSD, psilocybin, THC won't, at least not at recreational doses. So there needs to be tight oversight over heroin and cocaine.
Alcohol is not really much safer. It's pretty easy to OD on EtOH. Thus one of the reasons its regulated. By that logic, coke and heroin should be decriminalized, but regulated to protect people.
I guess this gets at a bigger question: should citizens be protected from themselves? I think the answer is mostly no, but as substances get more addictive and more dangerous, more protection is warranted.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: BrownThumb]
#10229553 - 04/25/09 01:53 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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BrownThumb said:
I guess this gets at a bigger question: should citizens be protected from themselves? I think the answer is mostly no, but as substances get more addictive and more dangerous, more protection education is warranted.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: niteowl]
#10229582 - 04/25/09 02:01 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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Niteowl:
I mean, yeah, you're right, education is a big part of it. But face it, there are lots of plain old idiots out there that can't be educated.
Education is only part of it. Regulation makes sense. The CURRENT ones don't, but there should be oversight of citizens who want to take highly toxic substances.
I'm not against requiring seatbelts or motorcycle helmets either. I see them as being in about the same category. Let people do dangerous things, if they want, but the government has an interest in mitigating the dangers we pose to ourselves.
This will be especially relevant in a few years when we have nationalized health care and you have to start asking if you want your tax dollars paying for any fool who does something really, really stupid, and society has to foot the million-dollar hospital bill. Ought we have prevented his foolishness?
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: BrownThumb]
#10229631 - 04/25/09 02:18 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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You can't prevent foolishness.
People are going to do stupid things
nothing you can do about that
people drive drunk every day
they know that they are doing something stupid
yet they do it any way
Laws designed to protect me from my self are unconstitutional.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: niteowl]
#10229972 - 04/25/09 04:56 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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I dont think cocaine and heroin should be legal
i probably never will
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: wowitch17]
#10230405 - 04/25/09 11:20 AM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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Why not?
People will get them regardless.
Why not legalize ALL drugs. Impose restrictions on them, and put the money we have been spending on fighting drugs into drug education.
Win, win situation.
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 Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: niteowl]
#10241704 - 04/27/09 11:37 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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I personally think that all drugs should be decriminalized.
people that have a drug problem do not belong in jail or prison...
they belong in some kind of treatment program.
I have a very close friend that can't stay off the hard drugs...
He has been in and out of jail and prison for the past 25 years.
His last episode was running around town with a knife threatening to kill himself with a knife.
He was strung out on Meth and thought that Aliens and Bugs were inside his body.
The Police showed up and he refused to drop the knife at their request...
so they tazered him 2 or 3 times til he fell to the ground...
he was probably lucky that they didn't just shoot him dead.
He spent 14 months in King County Jail without going to trial...
When he finally went before the Judge, it was decided to send him off to Western State.
He was no longer a danger to himself or Society...
but the State of Washington decided to put him in a Mental Institute(Western State) even though he isn't insane...for 10 years.
basically because they are just tired of dealing with him.
He spent 2 years in Western State before they finally let him out...on a conditional release.
2 months ago he failed a drug test...
so he was arrested and taken back to Western State Hospital.
He isn't insane...
he has a drug problem.
So now he is stuck in Western State again...
and the tax payers are paying over $400 a day for him to be locked up in there.
I talked to him the other night on the phone and he said he would rather be back in jail or prison...
rather than being in a Mental Institute.
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Re: Should all drugs be legalised or regulated? [Re: Roadkill]
#10241833 - 04/27/09 12:17 PM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yea, mental institutions suck balls.
I feel sorry for your friend.
He deserves better.
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