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Help!! Maggots!!
    #5698453 - 06/01/06 04:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hi all. I'm new to this website, but I'm loving it already. I have however got a bit of a problem.

Two days ago I went on a successful hunt, finding nearly 40 mushrooms. I've been letting them dry in a large box, but I have a problem. Yesterday I found a few maggots on the mushrooms...
Today, I found more maggots.

Could anybody offer me advice on how to spot bad mushrooms, which are likely to be full of maggots? I tihnk they've been evacuating their mushrooms as they dry, but I don't wanna eat any of them that have been the homes to maggots. I've thrown away a few of the bad looking ones, but is there anything else recommended?
I've changed my drying technique. Now, they are spread out on newspaper drying.
Does it matter if there are maggots in my shrooms? Does it matter if I eat them along with the mushrooms? How can I identify the bad mushrooms and whether there are maggots in them? These are my key questions.

I was also wondering if I should break up the mushrooms to look for maggot tunnels, and whether this would help them dry faster. Thanks in advance for any help.

-Linja

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Linja]
    #5698497 - 06/01/06 04:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I've figured out how to find whether they'd bad mushrooms already. On the cap you can see the maggot tunnels already, like darker lines across the surface. Now that nearly all of my find is full of maggots, I just wanna ask: Is it ok to keep the stalks?

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Linja]
    #5698545 - 06/01/06 05:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

id say its ok to keep everything, just dry em out and then grind everything up


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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: moshroom]
    #5698551 - 06/01/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So I can keep the ones with maggots in them? I don't really have a problem with eating them, so long as they're ground up with the rest and I don't have to see them wriggling around. But does it mean that the mushroom is bad? Will it make me sick? I've put all the "infected" mushrooms aside, in case I can keep them. I've brokwn open them all, just to make sure, most were still good (thank god), but heaps were still gross.

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Linja]
    #5698559 - 06/01/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You might want to focus more on mushrooms that are rotting.. I would guess that they could possibly cause food poisoning. It's never happened to me. I don't think most of the common bugs found on mushrooms pose any kind of serious risk.
Usually there is a nasty smell to a badly rotted mushroom, a discoloration, and sometimes sliminess. They stand out pretty well.


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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: eris]
    #5698578 - 06/01/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I've thrown away some of the rotting ones. They were a really dark brown colour, slimy and falling apart. Gross. After reading some of the other threads (so sorry, I'm new to this site, otherwise I wouldn't have posted, nothing came up in the search!) I've decided to let them dry, and hopefully the maggots will find it too hard to eat, evacuate and die of starvation. If not, they'll just be eaten with the rest. Thanks for your help guys.

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Linja]
    #5698605 - 06/01/06 06:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

maggots ay, you sure there not just wood louse(slater) pupa? the rotting mushrooms are you biggest problem try to get them to dry out quicker without increasing the heat there exposed to, ie. increase surface area or put on absorbent paper towel :smile:

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: criofan]
    #5698665 - 06/01/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Perhaps they're pupa, all I know is that they're tiny, white, grub-like looking things that wriggle and squirm when exposed. Thanks for the advice on drying, I've spread them out now on a newspaper.

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Linja]
    #5699745 - 06/01/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

If you're drying them just place them on a piece of paper and let a fan blow at them. This should dry them out in a about 2 days. They won't be completely dry though. To completely dry them put the shrooms in a brown paper bag and place that bag into the sun. But if you are not planning on storing them in a plastic baggy the second step is wont be necessary.  :mushroom2: :thumbup:


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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #5700503 - 06/01/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I can't belive all these people happy to eat maggots and flies and shit. Just throw them out mate. They're full of maggots because they're rotting. Next time get there sooner, pick them fresh and dry them out properly and quickly using one of the drying teks on the shroomery.

Otherwise you WILL be eating rotting mushrooms and you WILL be eating dried up maggots. If you're happy with this just to trip the I suggest you should be questioning your priorities in life. No offence at all intended, I'm just that amazed and the willingness of some to eat rotten shit and parasites.

My 2c.

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: oO_wombat_Oo]
    #5700528 - 06/01/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if I have a small-ish number of mushrooms laying around I tie the stalks with string and suspend them in the air for a couple days to dry 'em, seems to work fine

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: oO_wombat_Oo]
    #5700558 - 06/01/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The little maggots seem like fruit fly larvae to me, totally safe to eat and most likely good for you. The actual rotting of the mushroom is the only actual danger. Mushrooms infested with maggots tend to rot much faster, so the two factors are connected, but not directly dependent on each other.

At the end of the day it will only affect you if you let it affect you, and considering its potentially nutritious(albeit in negligible amounts) its actually logical to eat them. :laugh:

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Feelers]
    #5701037 - 06/01/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)


My mom told me not to stick shit like this in my mouth!
I toss em! I lost almost a pound of fresh Cubes to Mag's!
I don't think we were meant to consume things like this :tongue:

They start from the base of the stem and work there way to the cap .. So it would be useless to think you could save the stems..
If you have a tub of Silica Gel you may be able to stop the Mag's but I have tossed allot of Cubes as the Mag's move rather quickly!

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: YESSUP]
    #5701120 - 06/01/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I generally only take good specimens anyway so its never really been a problem.

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Feelers]
    #5701148 - 06/01/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I generally only take good specimens anyway so its never really been a problem.



I have had the most beautiful specimen's full of worms.. I have also watched them take off from one mushroom to another.. Kinda funny like a little army with a hasty retreat to another fortress..LOL

I'm almost thinking its something about Texas heck I dunno but when I had that huge haul in February the stinking maggots infested me and I was about in tears as I dropped them one by one in the trash..


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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: YESSUP]
    #5701330 - 06/01/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It might be because cubes have such thick stalks - the weedy little Subaeruginosa's that I hunt down here are too small really to support such large numbers of mags.

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    #5701357 - 06/01/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

LOL! that's a fuckload of maggots! I've only ever found 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 in picked ones that have been picked rather fresh, and are dried nearly instantly! If they sit around for a while, the maggots grow bigger and seem to multiply... then it gets kinda gross.. I can stand eating dead, dried out, mushed up maggots of a small size.. and hey - think of the nutritional benefits!


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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: ZenXi6]
    #5702047 - 06/01/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I feel sick.  :frown:  I found this same problem with many good looking Pans, the stalks are fine, but they come from the gills.  I couldn't believe how many there were!!!  I think maybe the gills had eggs that hatched, because all of these crawly things were NOT there to begin with.

Does, that sound right??  Flies or some other insect laying their eggs on the gills?  for Pans anyway...


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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: CureCat]
    #5702617 - 06/02/06 01:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I think they hatch. I had four seperate little 'collections' of shrooms that were all air-drying (d'oh) and all were fine until after a few days when the maggots sttarted to appear. And from that point there were just more and more.

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Re: Help!! Maggots!! [Re: Bread]
    #5702713 - 06/02/06 02:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i have still never seen any bugs on mine. were they rotting as u picked em or have any bugs then, or is this something thats happend days after picking?


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