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 cookeman
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FAE is a major cue for pinning so if you aren't getting that many pins or if it's taking a long time to get any pins you probably need more FAE. Also, if your shrooms are very thin that's a sign of too much CO2 which means you need more FAE. Really you can't have too much FAE but you can dry out the casing if the FAE is low humidity.
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 Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#6697323 - 03/21/07 10:11 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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How do you Sterilize the tub? My friend tried his hand at casing, and he cleaned the containers. but still got Trich on one.
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cookeman
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Re: monotub [Re: Myohmy]
#6698624 - 03/22/07 09:20 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Did he get the ph of the casing to the right range? 6.5-8.0? That's how most contamns happen with casing layers. Did he have a good amount of FAE? If he had those two he should no doubt not have a problem for the most part with trich or any other contams of the casing layer.
But to answer your question, a lot of people use a lot of different things to clean. I know that bleach either only kills bacteria and not molds or vice versa. Either way I stopped using it for the most part and generally use rubbing alcohol to clean most things now. You can also use soapy water for most things but I find it a pain because you have to make sure you get all the soap out whereas the rubbing alcohol just evaporates within seconds. Also, just get the regular 70% rubbing alcohol instead of the 91%. The 70% works better because it has more water in it which allows the alcohol to penetrate the contaminates cell walls and kill the cell. Work fast
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#6698769 - 03/22/07 10:30 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, i'm having trouble finding a good casing for this type of set up. My friend wants to do this monotub grow and see how it goes. but he only has certain materials. Can anyone help me out and give me a decent Casing Set up and procedure for these materials?
1. Rye Seed
2. Vermiculite
3. Perlite
4. Brown Rice and BRF
5. Quinoa Flour
6. Crushed Oyster shells (Flour)
7. Monotub
8. Peat Moss Potting Soil
9. Syringes
Sorry, i know this is asking alot. but after searching alot, i can't find a very good detailed casing procedure that has these materials. And would rather ask you guys for some help with this, because you know better than i do. Thanks.
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Re: monotub [Re: Myohmy]
#6700115 - 03/22/07 05:48 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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correct me if im wrong anyone, but with those materials given i would say use 40% peat, 40% verm, and 20% of oyster shells flour and you would be good. granted that you maintain the necessary moisture levels in the casing mix.
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cookeman
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that sounds about right. It's impossible to tell you exact amounts because of the differences in ph of different peat moss and vermiculite. Oyster shell flour is somewhat slow at changing the ph, but it'll do the job and keep it where you need it. just make sure it's flour and not grity or chunky at all.
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Sweet, thanks guys. i will let him know
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Re: monotub [Re: exagram]
#6705927 - 03/24/07 10:01 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry to bring this thread back, but I'm interested as to whether breathable surgical tape or some other such replacement can be used instead of poly-fil to cover 'breathing holes' made in a fruiting chamber.
Not to mention, why could cotton wool not be used instead poly-fil? Couldn't any problems with contamination could be sorted out by dunking the cotton wool in alcoholic cleaner?
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Re: monotub [Re: exagram]
#6705990 - 03/24/07 10:41 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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The reason polyfil is preferred to cotton for gas exchange is that cotton is much too ABSORBENT. If you're wearing socks right now, chances are that they're made of cotton for that specific reason - to absorb the sweat from your feet and move it away from the skin.
Polyfil is almost the opposite. Once it gets wet, it quickly dries back out. This is desirable for two reasons -
1). If nutrients and moisture remain on the filter, contaminants will grow ON the filter, which defeats the whole purpose of the filter.
2). If the filter remains wet, it will restrict (or even completely block) airflow.
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Ta very much.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#6706601 - 03/24/07 02:41 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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okay so i have a 20 gallon monotub which i spawned to coir 12 days ago, which has been kept to incubate in complete darkness ever since.
now the thing is that i am going on vacation this coming wednesday and will be gone for 7 days.
so what i am thinking is to case the tub in the next coming days, preferably the day before i leave, and expose it to fruiting conditions while i am gone.
my question is, will i return in time to harvest? i know there's no way to be precise about this but i would like some advice from other monotub growers who've had more experience with the average duration.
any ideas appreciated. 
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AlteredAgain
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bumping because thread left main page.
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Re: monotub [Re: ohmatic]
#7416210 - 09/16/07 10:52 AM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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I have a quick question about the monotub...in what kind of space should the tub be placed for functionality? I mean, would this have the same effectiveness in a closet or does it need to be in a room with airflow coming through the sides?
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Blutjager
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Quote:
Shroomsbrrr said:
I have a quick question about the monotub...in what kind of space should the tub be placed for functionality? I mean, would this have the same effectiveness in a closet or does it need to be in a room with airflow coming through the sides?
Any room with some air flow should do,just leave an oscillating fan in the room put don't point it directly at the mono tub or you may risk drying it out
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DigitalNomad
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Oh oh oh! one more question!
When i started i invested in a green house for the smaller casings I did, and for various other plants I own. I was wonderingif I took out a shelf, if it's worth putting a monotub in it?
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jeetered
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? there is no need
a monotub is it's OWN environment, it doens't need a "Martha" to do anything...
it needs to be put on a shelf, and left alone, come back 2 weeks later and harvest.
peace.
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wutang
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i dont get it, you never opened it again but how did you add the plastic covering to colonize and how'd you add a casing layer?
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Re: monotub [Re: wutang]
#7417193 - 09/16/07 04:57 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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Quote:
wutang said:
i dont get it, you never opened it again but how did you add the plastic covering to colonize and how'd you add a casing layer?
i dont add a plastic covering... why would I?
and of course it's opened to add a casing layer.
and to harvest.
that's it.
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Re: monotub [Re: jeetered]
#7417251 - 09/16/07 05:12 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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k thank you jeet i was a bit confused
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Re: monotub [Re: wutang]
#7418955 - 09/17/07 07:13 AM (11 months, 14 days ago) |
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I throw my flushs on to my compost pile too. Nothing beats recycling
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