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 Wronguy
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 Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. 
#5230891 - 01/27/06 11:26 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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As most of you are aware we have been contemplating a split of the forums. While we are still deciding on this, I feel that an overhaul of the FAQ is in order prior to any possible changes. What I need is some serious thoughts from all of you on what changes could be made to make it better.
www.shroomery.org/faq
Some of you stated that some things are outdated. Tell me what. If you see some room for improvement this is the place to start.
What exactly do you want to see?
What new categories do you want?
Do you want to know where to get materials? How those materials are applicable in growing?
What about the FAQ do you like or dislike?
What changes would make newer folks use this and feel that most of their questions have been answered?
Do you think links should be applied to certain grows showing casing methods, fruiting chambers? If we're talking about liquid cultures, should links be provided showing how to make them, their applicability, results, common contamination pics?
I could go on and on, but I think you get the idea. If anyone wants to shoot me a PM rather than discuss it in the open, please do so. This is for your benefit people. This is an opportunity to make this site the best on the net, to be cutting edge, to help others help themselves.
If you see something in the FAQ that you would like to see changed or needs to be updated, post the link in your reply and fire off some ideas. If the change has to do with cultivating, but others disagree, I want to hear those opinions as well.
So come on in and let's talk. 
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Wronguy]
#5231324 - 01/27/06 01:21 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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hmmm think there should be some more clear and consise Agar tek , maybe a few more grain items. also some sorta poll item to maybe more clearly let people know if there old spores might be good or not
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Mycophreek423]
#5233467 - 01/27/06 09:53 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that the first thing that a noob should learn is the basics of what the life cycle of the fungus is. This is absolutely fundemental to growing, and I think that too many people fail because they don't understand WHAT their fungus is trying to do, or what it needs at each stage.
I think then that you should outline the fundementals of cultivation; lay down the basics of what is needed regardless of what method is being used. All that any method does is give the shrooms food, water, light, air, room, and appropriate temp parameters. Anything beyond that is just details. Since no method is necessarily better than the other, these six aspects are your starting points for figuring out exactly what method you should choose.
Food> BRF/verm, grains, poo.... (each choice then leads into list of related teks)
water> What kind of water to use, humidification teks, etc
light> Lighting rigs, what kind of lights to use, light cycle, the role of light exposure in triggering pins and how this affects casings/cakes (side pinning, or invitro fruiting)
air> Air exchange teks, HEPA filters, When in the life cycle CO2 levels are important...
Room> Fruiting chamber options, invitro fruting, stealth or small scale grows...
Temp> Heating/cooling methods, when in the life cylce are different temps needed...
Of course, each choice shouldn't necessarily just lead into a list of specific teks, but it should be like search results for related teks and growlogs that describe the techniques and then show them being used.
I know that's a lot of work, but I think that you can understand the kind of organization I'm thinking of, and it doesn't really have to be very complicated...
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#5233470 - 01/27/06 09:54 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh, and of course a trouble shooting section for each aspect.
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ke1n
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#5233785 - 01/27/06 11:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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more detail on LC since it has so many benifits.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: ke1n]
#5234480 - 01/28/06 07:38 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, definately more on LC and Agar. I like what Nunbuh said about the lifecycle of the fungus. Thanks Wronguy
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Atheist]
#5234503 - 01/28/06 07:49 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I too can attest that knowing a bit more about the life cycle would be beneficial. Honestly things(on the site)are pretty clear and concise overall, although there is always room for improvement.
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Cubenisseur]
#5235271 - 01/28/06 12:16 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, I don't think we could get any more clear on the actual steps for the teks. All the info is there, it just needs to be re-organized. And definitely with more links to grow logs.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#5237280 - 01/29/06 12:07 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that when I first looked into growing info on the site, I was a bit overwhelmed. I saw all the different teks and vocab that I wasn't at all familiar with. I think a lot of people feel this way, and I think a lifecycle/generalization of growing should be available.
Maybe just a link that leads to a page where the lifecycle and the general "steps" that the mushroom goes through, and what paramaters the grower needs to meet at these steps. I know it would of helped me a lot. Explain that there are many ways/variables in mushroom growing, but also try to generalize it with a VERY newbie type layout with pictures and diagrams and such.
Also, I am definately in favor of having more info on where supplies can be found. Perhaps divided into geographic areas? For instance, in a lot of the teks, they list supplies you need. They will have a pretty vague statement that says "you can find so and so at your local hardware store." So I'd zip down to Lowe's and find nothing. Over to home depot.. nothing. The point is, that stores on the west coast don't have everything that east coast stores have, or vice versa.
And as some have already said, more info on agar and liquid culture would also help. Thanks to the mods for trying to make this place even better!
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kiss
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Blek]
#5237654 - 01/29/06 05:21 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've signed on to the Shroomery a pretty long time ago. Sometime in 97- or 98. This place has always been helpfull, in terms of cultivating. Over the years I've picked up and adapted new methods, thanks to people like Anno, Agar, BabyHittler, ect.
But once you reach this level I think we hang on a platue.
With the exception of AGAR...lol.
For example: I really don't come on that much to learn now adays. Now I just float through the Shroomery to help others. Maybe once in a while I get to learn something new.
The point I'm trying to get to, is that in all this time, and all the teks and info gained from here, I'd have to say the most invaulable info that I've learned to go along with the rest of this came from the book "Mycelium Running" by Paul Stamets.
Many others here seem to want to understand what happens within Mycelium's life cycle. This book is the shinning tower on this topic!
Not only will the reader begin to understand, but he/she will have a much better veiw the relationship between the mushrooms, and the planet.
IMO...most of the "New Blood" think the only mushrooms that exsist are P.cubes, and portabella...lol.
True that most of us came here with the intention of Cultivating or own drug...free of charge 
But this mind set has disappeared for me over the years. Understanding is the key!
Since this is the place to be, maybe we should use this info. Take it to the next level!
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: kiss]
#5237784 - 01/29/06 07:29 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
kiss said:
IMO...most of the "New Blood" think the only mushrooms that exsist are P.cubes, and portabella...lol.
True that most of us came here with the intention of Cultivating or own drug...free of charge
But this mind set has disappeared for me over the years. Understanding is the key!
Since this is the place to be, maybe we should use this info. Take it to the next level!
Yeah, i'd say that the archives are pretty lacking in regards to edible and medicinal mushrooms, which is really a shame. I think the shroomery has a very unique niche as a psychedelic community, but it's also a place that inspires much interest in amateur mycology! I've learned to appreciate the role of fungus in the environment, and also the incredibly variety of species that are delicious, nutritious, and medicinal at the same time! I'm very interested in growing some edible/medicinals, but one obstacle I find is that there isn't a tremendous amount of info on them here, or that it is hard to find.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#5247128 - 01/31/06 01:29 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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An immense resource that would be exceedingly easy to implement would be a list of popular locations to buy supplies.
Perhaps a US/Canada/Europe store list for starters....just so people like me don't spend 10 outings on a wild goose chase to find a spray bottle, hehe.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Hypercube]
#5247433 - 01/31/06 02:58 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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im really new here, and i just got my first spore syringe. the thing that happened to me was i read the pf jar tek and went out and spent like $100 getting stuff for a fruiting chamber that matched the tek etc. turns out i got the wrong humidifier, and some of the stuff i got i found out later i could do without.
i guess there are a ton of teks tat each claim to be really good, but its hard to get a good overall view of the teks and the terms without diving in headfirst and struggling to swim a bit.
i think i have a decent handle on the stuff now though, and im gonna be growing my first stuff soon.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5248990 - 01/31/06 08:56 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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im new here and one of the things that had me stumbling for a while were all the abbreviations, i would read something and have no clue what it was talking about. so maybe a page of abbreviations would help all the newbs, i know it would have helped me out a lot
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#5249575 - 01/31/06 11:15 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
I think that the first thing that a noob should learn is the basics of what the life cycle of the fungus is. This is absolutely fundemental to growing, and I think that too many people fail because they don't understand WHAT their fungus is trying to do, or what it needs at each stage.
I think then that you should outline the fundementals of cultivation; lay down the basics of what is needed regardless of what method is being used. All that any method does is give the shrooms food, water, light, air, room, and appropriate temp parameters. Anything beyond that is just details. Since no method is necessarily better than the other, these six aspects are your starting points for figuring out exactly what method you should choose.
Food> BRF/verm, grains, poo.... (each choice then leads into list of related teks)
water> What kind of water to use, humidification teks, etc
light> Lighting rigs, what kind of lights to use, light cycle, the role of light exposure in triggering pins and how this affects casings/cakes (side pinning, or invitro fruiting)
air> Air exchange teks, HEPA filters, When in the life cycle CO2 levels are important...
Room> Fruiting chamber options, invitro fruting, stealth or small scale grows...
Temp> Heating/cooling methods, when in the life cylce are different temps needed...
Of course, each choice shouldn't necessarily just lead into a list of specific teks, but it should be like search results for related teks and growlogs that describe the techniques and then show them being used.
I know that's a lot of work, but I think that you can understand the kind of organization I'm thinking of, and it doesn't really have to be very complicated...
This is all good stuff IMO..
I think the whole thing needs a rehaul. Eliminating alot of the crap...lots and lots..there are many easy ways to do things now that are more advanced and the whole thing makes the boards info look old. "If your a newbie, this begineers section with all cake teks are where you should start"..bah I say...
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rDr4g0n
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: scatmanrav]
#5253141 - 02/01/06 08:44 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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basically making a noob section with the basics to get us started. abreviations, definitions, lifecycle, basic tek overviews.
then from there we can move to real teks and actual hands on stuff.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5255585 - 02/02/06 01:28 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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As a realtive noob, I'd say the biggest thing I needed was a little bit less choice. Trying to deicide which tek to use, which one not too use, what sort of humidification to use, to case or not, blah blah blah just makes things a little too difficult. Think of all the conflicting opinions. PF Tek says incubate at room temp. Some say incubate at 80. Some say 86. Perlie? Geolite? Cool mist? Ultrasonic? It's all too much to take at first. Then any other questions you have, you tyr to ask someone and everyone just tells you to search. Then you search and everyone says something different. There are just so many conflicting opinions that it makes it hard.
I say that you should make some sort of folder like "If You're New, Start Here" and try to keep the info to a minimum. Introduce the life cycle of mushrooms, define some terms, and give ONE tek to look at. Id say the Simple Cubensis Growing Technique, because it has more pictures than the PF Tek, has correct info about incubation temps, and has some pictures of a wide variety of nice looking fruiting chambers. Im not saying get rid of everything else, but a more concise starting spot would be best for begginers, in my opinion.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: boatshow]
#5255764 - 02/02/06 02:15 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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ALSO!!!
please make a section about legal implications of growing and tips on what NOT to do! i didnt even KNOW there was a security section until after i bought all my stuff, with a credit card...
so yeah the site makes it seem like everyones growing, and its illegal but its not a big deal, but apparently its a really big deal.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: rDr4g0n]
#5256896 - 02/02/06 07:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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holy fuck, this is amazing, i havent been able to get on the shroomery for a while cause of school and whatnot and when i do i literally spend hours sittin and reading, but i just wanna say that you guys are doing an amazing job at getting people attracted and into the mycology hobby. HOWEVER!!!! i have just noticed that overgrow.com has apparently been shut down for what it supported (growin hella good bud) and I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN TO THE SHROOMERY! i have not been here half as long as alot of our registered members, but I would be DESTROYED if the shroomery were ever forced to go under because of illegal drug support. It def. is linked... spores and seeds are legal; people teach people how to make that spore or seed into an infinite supply of illegal "drugs". Just wanted to throw that in there and CONGRADULATE the shroomery.
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Re: Calling on all members for the updated FAQ. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#5264764 - 02/04/06 10:26 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
I think that the first thing that a noob should learn is the basics of what the life cycle of the fungus is. This is absolutely fundemental to growing, and I think that too many people fail because they don't understand WHAT their fungus is trying to do, or what it needs at each stage.
I think then that you should outline the fundementals of cultivation; lay down the basics of what is needed regardless of what method is being used. All that any method does is give the shrooms food, water, light, air, room, and appropriate temp parameters. Anything beyond that is just details. Since no method is necessarily better than the other, these six aspects are your starting points for figuring out exactly what method you should choose.
Food> BRF/verm, grains, poo.... (each choice then leads into list of related teks)
water> What kind of water to use, humidification teks, etc
light> Lighting rigs, what kind of lights to use, light cycle, the role of light exposure in triggering pins and how this affects casings/cakes (side pinning, or invitro fruiting)
air> Air exchange teks, HEPA filters, When in the life cycle CO2 levels are important...
Room> Fruiting chamber options, invitro fruting, stealth or small scale grows...
Temp> Heating/cooling methods, when in the life cylce are different temps needed...
i totally agree, but there also needs to be a misc section that has agar, live culture, the coffee project, my CakeSaver tek ( ) and all that other good stuff.
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