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 john titor the time traveler
#5197394 - 01/18/06 11:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i am listening to coast to coast with george noory and they had this dude talking about some guy named john titor who claimed he was a time traveler from 2036 and he made a bunch of predictions (some which have come true) about scientific breakthroughs,and world events both recent and in the near future,etc. anyways i think its kinda interesting.
check it out
http://www.johntitor.com/
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#5197833 - 01/19/06 02:38 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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If he had come back in time and made it so that a civil war didnt start, I think that would set up a paradox. As presumably the future would end up really differently without a civil war, so the chances of him being in the same place at the same time with and without a civil war are slim.
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#5197867 - 01/19/06 03:49 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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At first his descriptions look very convincing, but the more you read of them, the more they are starting to read like a cross between bad '80s Sci Fi and a survivalist's wet dream.
I'm now convinced that mr. Titor is someone who has taken the whole Y2K scare a bit too seriously.
Besides, my future self visited me yesterday and told me that everything will be alright. the singularity in 2012 will be exciting for about a month, but will end up to be a huge disappointment. he also looked at me oddly while sipping his tea and told me to stock up on toothpicks and sugar, but that may have been a joke on his part.
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#5198369 - 01/19/06 10:06 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always wondered about those IBM 5100 engineers had to say about Titor.
Anyway, read this and you'll know ...
http://www.postbulletin.com/magazine/2004/08/index.shtml
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According to Bob Dubke, the second engineer on IBM's 5100 team in Rochester (who now co-owns a locally-based company called eXport Ventures Corp. and also works for Edina Realty), that secret function was his contribution to the design of the computer. The function, which IBM suppressed because of worries about how their competition might use it, was an interface between the assembly code surrounding the computer's ROM exterior, and the 360 emulator hidden beneath it. (IBM declined to comment for this story.) The 5100's emulator gave programmers access to the functions of the monstrous, and much less portable machines, that IBM had produced during the 1960s. An imprint of a hook on the outside of the 5100 symbolized the ability of Dubke's interface to drop into what Titor called "legacy code," and scoop out any necessary operating instructions.
It doesn't prove anything but it makes this whole case even more weird.
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#5199070 - 01/19/06 02:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Supposedly this guy went back to the future or so he said he was going to and then he disappeared. Why aren't people trying to find him?
What would be the point of building a name for yourself and then, disappearing?
None of this makes much sense to me. You'd think he would've taken a few trusted scientists back and forth for a few spins to prove it if he wanted to be believed. Who Knows? It is a weird case.
There is the Philadelphia experiment that suggests our government may have got some time travel technology figured out with the help of Tesla's and Einsteins work.
The saying goes, warning prophecies are given so is that with the knowledge they will not come to pass. Funny, I read in that link that he said there would be a high probability that a woman would be in the presidential office in 2008. Looks like Hilary is going to be nominated for the Dem's. Was he warning us to keep her out or sharing something to look forward to is the question? 
If anyone hears the Titor was found somewhere, post about it. It's a good MR&P mystery.
 
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http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/08/06.html
august 6th john titor coast to coast show
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/10/08.html
october 8th john titor coast to coast show
these are the two other coast to coasts with john ttitor,also the one they aired last nite is available at coast to coast am's website
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#5199241 - 01/19/06 03:11 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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If he's still around, why isn't he giving time travel demonstrations? I would think if you want to be believed and have your predictions taken seriously, then, that would seem like the thing to do. Whats his reason? He may have a good one. Anyone know?
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Came back from 2036? Impossible.. everyone knows that no humans will survive beyond 2012. 
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: CUBErt]
#5199372 - 01/19/06 03:50 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll be here past then. 
It would be cool if this guy was for real. I would think, he would be handling things differently is all.
Say anyone of you could go back 30 years in time. What would you be telling people? What would you be doing there? Would you take them traveling through time to show them how you did it? Why pick 30 years ago versus any other date to go back and insight a change of events? Would you even risk doing that and have the future time you came from end up worse? And if he did change the outcome of a civil war starting in the US in 2004/05 then how would he have known about it in the future if it never happened?
The only thing that could explain that is if time branches off into new time lines every time a new choice is made different from the last one. Has ever discussed how that works or that it even works that way? Does anyone know?
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"The only thing that could explain that is if time branches off into new time lines every time a new choice is made different from the last one. Has ever discussed how that works or that it even works that way? Does anyone know?"
Actually, from reading up on John Titor, he explains it precisely as that...time has 'threads'...And the second he travelled back in time from his own time, he would be deviating from his own time line. He apparently decided to come back to this time line because it was reasonably close to his own 'history' Which works quite nicely for any predictions he made that don't inevitably come true...In other words, just because something happened in his time line, does not mean that it will happen in ours. In addition, when he returns...chances are it won't be to his original timeline either, he will be returning to a timeline that is as close to his as possible. (Ever watch the TV show "Sliders"?...same principle)
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Doc Brown draws a diagram about alternate time-lines in "Back to the Future II." 
I suppose if he travelled back in time to change future events, it would not effect his memory of the original time line. Everyone else who exists in this alternate future would have been part of the time line all along, and so would not remember the original time line.
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"Sliders" involved travel between alternate universes (multi-verses?), not alternate time lines, though.
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: Veritas]
#5199444 - 01/19/06 04:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're correct, but my premise was that it was next to impossible for them to return to their own universe.
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oliver williams the guy who was on george noory talikng about this said time travel was based on breakthrough's involving manmade black holes by a swiss company that just recently announced said breakthrough,also he said traveling through time is really infinite dimensions that are similar. (kinda like michael crichton book timeline)
also here is another site that discusses the john titor enigma in depth:
http://timetravelportal.com/viewtopic.php?t=41
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Why aren't people trying to find him?
He said he would be leaving our timeline and if true left several years ago. Some who are skeptical have very energetically tried to find the person, but there aren't many leads to go on.
What would be the point of building a name for yourself and then, disappearing?
You're assuming his goal was to "make a name for himself". According to Titor his main objective was to secure an old computer, not save the world, become known, etc.
You'd think he would've taken a few trusted scientists back and forth for a few spins to prove it if he wanted to be believed.
According to Titor he was not operating under his own volition, but under orders to make his jaunts. If true, I doubt his superiors would appreciate him returning with "time tourists".
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#5199536 - 01/19/06 04:46 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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To listen to those shows you linked would require a paid subscription. The days of listening to C2C archives for free are gone alas.
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Thanks Rono for explaining his version of it. It's how I understood it would work if that is how it works.
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: zorbman]
#5199563 - 01/19/06 04:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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zorbman said:
Why aren't people trying to find him?
He said he would be leaving our time line and if true left several years ago. Some who are skeptical have very energetically tried to find the person, but there aren't many leads to go on.
What would be the point of building a name for yourself and then, disappearing?
You're assuming his goal was to "make a name for himself". According to Titor his main objective was to secure an old computer, not save the world, become known, etc.
You'd think he would've taken a few trusted scientists back and forth for a few spins to prove it if he wanted to be believed.
According to Titor he was not operating under his own volition, but under orders to make his jaunts. If true, I doubt his superiors would appreciate him returning with "time tourists".
Thanks for filling me in on what you knew there about it Zorb!
That was another interesting take on it Veritas, thanks!
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: zorbman]
#5199617 - 01/19/06 05:08 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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zorbman said:
To listen to those shows you linked would require a paid subscription. The days of listening to C2C archives for free are gone alas.
that sucks, i am downloading all four hours of the august 6th show from emule, so when its complete i will post it, also i am downloading the john titor book put out by the attorney representing his family in this time period which i will also post
hey i just got the book which is a collection of his (john titor) posts about time travelling, its cool cause you can read his own words. does anyone have any info on how to put it on this post? its a huge .txt file or i have a .rar of it. any help would be appreciated
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Re: john titor the time traveler [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
#5201567 - 01/20/06 03:32 AM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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John. are you saying there isn't enough skeptism on this board? Fom what I observe, the skeptics on here out number us "sheep".
There is no way I can know if you are real time traveler, I'm asking you questions because I'm interested in your answers.
My rational, logical mind says you are nothing but a bored cyber geek with a lot of "time" (no pun intended) on your hands, however, part of me also wants to believe that time travel is (or will be) a realtiy as it has always been a facinastion of mine.
I know there is much more to the Universe that I can possibly understand, therefore, my mind always will be open to new possiblities.
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John,When does your creative writing course end?????????
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Mr. John the time merchant is he selling truth or lies??
The members of this BBS are people that want to believe, We aren't stupid. John give us the respect that we have given to you. Please tell the truth. However if it is true you are just a geek tell the members so. The truth will set you free !!!!!!!!!
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As the 38? year old that you are today, do you remember yourself showing up and visiting yourself as a three year old? Are your parents still living in 2036? Have they ever mentioned your having time traveled back to see them in 2001?
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Mr. Titor, I find this fascinating. Perhaps, if you do not mind, I would enjoy a ride in your time device. I am sure you wouldn't mind me taking a spin into the future a few years. If you are ever in the Denver area let me know I would like to interview you and take a ride in your machine.
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Yep, Jason hit the nail right on the head, didn't he?
I too would like to take a ride in the rumble seat of your time machine.
I would like to visit the late 'fifties and early 'sixties. I'd like to have coffee with my father and my uncle, with spray-painted gold lamps overhead, encrusted with plastic jewels.
I'd like to watch them smoke their pipes and cigarettes unmolested, and discuss the simple issues of their time.
Sadly, I believe time travel is bull***t.
I wish it were otherwise.
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John is there anything you can let us know about the future? I know you are doing the whole "not gonna tell any real information due to money being made off betting on the information you tell us". But can you just name some people who will be major tv stars or movie stars, or future major politicians or major companies? Or even other major technologies besides the obvious that we arent aware of?
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This post addresses what I have seen before the last three. I enjoy the conversation and I will respond.
The ?pattern? of exchange in the war will not be a surprise. Many people will perish as a result of starvation and disease. I would also submit that you already know if you?re safe or not. The trick is to not turn off your fear when you?ll need it the most.
Australia is sort of interesting in what is unknown. After the war, they were not very cooperative or friendly (can?t blame them really). It is known they did repulse a Chinese invasion and most of their cities were hit. They have a trading relationship with the U.S. but I would characterize them as reclusive and ticked off.
When people use phrases like ?See what I mean?, ?You?re not hearing what I?m saying? or ?Something smells fishy?, they are indicating the primary sense they use to process information about a situation. I find it interesting that my credibility and the phrases that describe it hinge on economic terms and whether or not I have something to sell. I don?t. I also don?t know how to clarify my position any better so I would suggest that if what I say angers you, it might be best to just consider it fiction. Soon you?ll get bored and I will leave in a few months. Either way, it won?t be an issue.
The ?enemy? that was attacked by Russia in the U.S. was the forces of the government you live under right now.
((...or just some guy who gets off misleading others.))
I do not seek followers to mislead. I seek safety, animosity and good conversation.
(2). To me it would seem obvious that we both have a very different perspective on what?s important right now in 2001. I would think that?s what makes our interaction interesting. Would I be anymore believable if I told you I had just stopped a horrible event and you won?t hear about it because it didn?t happen? Again, this is the second time it has come up and I am very curious. Why would you expect a time traveler to know or care about what happens in Hollywood or some individual companies profits? You seem to think I have tomorrow?s paper in front of me. Is that what time travel means to you?
(3) I never said I was a scientist. If this is about economics somehow and you hope to ?buy? my story, then what do I gain by ?selling? it?
(5) You already know that cars are dangerous and planes crash. I?m very confident you are capable of killing yourselves without my intervention. Actually, my moral obligation has nothing to do with you, it?s between me and God.
Deception? Exactly what standard do you use to measure the truth around you? I have seen other threads with amazing and potentially real experiences on them. Why am I more threatening?
I have no memory of meeting an older me as a three year old. The events between worldlines are isolated and nothing I do here will affect my worldline. Yes, my parents are alive in 2036 but they have no experience with a time traveling ?me? in their 2001 either.
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