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 Re: at a friends house  [Re: Disco Cat]
#4844113 - 10/23/05 10:57 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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looser...
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you are pathetic...
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you went from ditching school and smoking pot to having your own place and a job... all in one day! very ambitious...
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brakkie... one day you will realize that your father was probably the only REAL friend you ever had...
peace
cateyes
Cateyes, acting like the unaccepting people he had to escape from isn't exactly noble. You're making judgements without any knowledge of the situation. And even if you did know the situation your comments are still false ones which always tear a person down, not help.
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 Re: at a friends house [Re: Disco Cat]
#4844286 - 10/23/05 11:28 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cateyes, acting like the unaccepting people he had to escape from isn't exactly noble. You're making judgements without any knowledge of the situation. And even if you did know the situation your comments are still false ones which always tear a person down, not help.
never thought i'd say this ...
fuck you!  read the entire thread asswipe...
peace
cateyes
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Phluck]
#4844964 - 10/24/05 08:27 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phluck said:
You got in a fight with your dad and knocked him out because he wanted you to go upstairs to watch TV?
I'm sorry, but that is the stupidest reason for violence I have ever heard in my entire life.
Are you paying for the house? Do you own it? Then why the fuck don't you listen to the person who does?
You know, a lot of people's dads tell them not only that they can't watch TV downstairs, but that they must also do things like mow the lawn or wash the dishes. Your dad was telling you to go and RELAX SOMEWHERE, and you knocked him out for it.
Congradulations.
Go Phluck, speak the truth!
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Re: at a friends house [Re: cateyes]
#4845034 - 10/24/05 08:59 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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cateyes check your PMs...this is your only warning for flaming in this forum. Once more and you will have your access to the forum removed.
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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Brakkie]
#4845068 - 10/24/05 09:09 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Brakkie said:
Listen to this:
Last week I was in my room just had another arguement with my parents and my mom came up in my room... Tellin me this shit:
"Why are you being such an asshole... What are you gonna do next walk on the streets and shout how fucked you feel? Jump in front of the train? You are weak! You are being such an asshole and overreacting! Stop being as stupid as you are right now and start growing up! Start getting a man and stop that shit that you feel fucked! I know you're overreacting!
From what you described in the first post, I can't say I blame your mom for saying that. It sounds like you're psychotic. If they say you act stupid and idiotic, it's probably because you do. If they tell you ugly and pale and weak you are, maybe it's because they're actually concerned about your health. Frankly, you sound like the most spoiled, ungrateful child I've ever heard of. The one thing I would blame your parents for is not spanking you enough as a kid.
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Silversoul]
#4845182 - 10/24/05 09:43 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Paradigm said:
From what you described in the first post, I can't say I blame your mom for saying that. It sounds like you're psychotic. If they say you act stupid and idiotic, it's probably because you do. If they tell you ugly and pale and weak you are, maybe it's because they're actually concerned about your health. Frankly, you sound like the most spoiled, ungrateful child I've ever heard of. The one thing I would blame your parents for is not spanking you enough as a kid.
I don't mind calling me psychotic cause I don't care if you think that... But calling me spoiled and unthankfull is something that will piss me off! Man you don't even know me! I would cut my fucking arms of for anyone just not my parents! I'm very thankfull for people that threat me right! My parents don't so if you read the whole thread then you can call me spoiled and unthankfull again cause my guess it that if you read it all you won't have called me that!
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Re: at a friends house [Re: trendal]
#4845216 - 10/24/05 09:50 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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trendal said:
cateyes check your PMs...this is your only warning for flaming in this forum. Once more and you will have your access to the forum removed.
my older brother is a "brakkie". he regularly abused my mother and eventually beat my father so badly he had to spend 3 days in the hospital. i listen to brakkie and i think of him... if i had the ability i would have killed the bastard myself. thats how much i hated what he had turned "our home" into. my brother is a sociopath. he remains in jail for beating a man outside a bar for defending his girlfriend... my brother is a pathetic loser.
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Re: at a friends house [Re: cateyes]
#4845754 - 10/24/05 12:20 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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cateyes said:
my older brother is a "brakkie". he regularly abused my mother and eventually beat my father so badly he had to spend 3 days in the hospital. i listen to brakkie and i think of him... if i had the ability i would have killed the bastard myself. thats how much i hated what he had turned "our home" into. my brother is a sociopath. he remains in jail for beating a man outside a bar for defending his girlfriend... my brother is a pathetic loser.
Wow...I'm sorry you have to deal with that. I hope I never have to have a child like that.
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Re: at a friends house [Re: cateyes]
#4858265 - 10/27/05 03:24 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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cateyes said:
my older brother is a "brakkie". he regularly abused my mother and eventually beat my father so badly he had to spend 3 days in the hospital. i listen to brakkie and i think of him... if i had the ability i would have killed the bastard myself. thats how much i hated what he had turned "our home" into. my brother is a sociopath. he remains in jail for beating a man outside a bar for defending his girlfriend... my brother is a pathetic loser.
I'm sorry that you had to pull yourself through all that shit but man believe me I ain't like that! I don't abuse my mom or my dad! Never did and never will! I never ever did something against my mom! I only protected myself, my sister and my bro from my dad! My mom doesn't see it but me, my sis and my bro do! We all see that my dad has an agressive personality and he tends to get violent every know and then! He fucking tried to kick me off the stairs! Tried to smack my sis with his fist! He once stood in front of me with a coper pipe! He wanted to beat the shit out of me! All of this happened when my mom wasn't around! My mom doesn't believe that it all happened and just says well you're just overreacting blablabla I'm the only one strong enough to protect my sis and my bro from my dad! I ain't abusing them in any way!
What would you do if your dad stood in front of you with a coper pipe? Or see your sis almost get beaten? Would you just sit and continue posting on the shroomery or try to protect yourself and your sis? Well I went for option 2...
I ain't a sociopath in any way! I ain't gonna beat someone in front of a bar or anything! I'm just a chilled, down-to-earth guy that did his job in protecting my bro and sis! my sis went out of home too my bro is still there trying to find his place! My relationship with my bro isn't very well cause he done some shit on me... But last night I got a call from my bro that he went away from home cause my dad went nuts... He stayed over at my place and just went back... He'll prolly move here too and try to stuff another bed in my room so he can stay over here for a while till he finds his place...
My mom still doesn't understand that my dad can turn into a man like that...
So now tell me I'm just like your bro... Cause this situation is completely diffirent!
I went to a psychiatrist few days ago and I told him that I didn't want to get any meds cause I hate meds... Yeah I know I ate aspirins for a long time... But that was it... I stopped that and I ain't gonna take any other meds... He agreed on me on 1 condition... That I went to see him every week and tell him everything that happened to me in that week, and if he thought that it isn't getting any better that I will be admitted to a hospital... I agreed... I'm now on a strict diet with fruits, vegatables and fish to get my body back in health again... Hope that will help me with my depression too...
The psychiatrist told me that it ain't a good idea to smoke weed every day anymore but he said like once or twice a week wasn't that big of a problem... So I'm sticking with one time a week... (yesterday)... Hope it all turns out good and I'm already feeling better cause I got help right now... This psychiatrist is so much better than the one I had a couple of years ago... This one actually understands me the other one just let me do my thing and let me tell my whole life... I just can't! If I'm with someone I don't know then you have to ask me questions to make me talk... My "new" psychiatrist does this andI like it! 
I'll keep you updated
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Brakkie]
#4858540 - 10/27/05 08:06 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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hi... that post was more a reaction to trendal's timely "open forum" warning to me then it was to you directly to be honest. he obviously took no time to read the entire thread before trying to lay down some smack. 
i should have edited that post after i cooled down.
i've learned a lesson responding to threads like this. many details are always left out making it impossible to give good advice. this thread went from you refusing to go to your room to protecting your sister from physical abuse... what can i say?
psychiatric meds suck... sounds like you have a good psychiatrist. stick to the diet and try to get some excercise in as often as possible. trust me, you will be surprised how well you will feel and how things will begin to fall into place after awhile.
peace
cateyes
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Re: at a friends house [Re: cateyes]
#4862342 - 10/28/05 12:38 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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True I know it went from something stupid to this... I was just venting at first but now everything is starting to fall in place and I had to tell the whole story for you guys to understand that I wasn't some pathetic loser that just smacked the shit out of his dad for nothing...
Yeah I do excercise as much as I can... I walk out with our neighboor's dog a lot since he's working like 12 hours a day... I try to walk at least an hour at a time... to get some fresh air and everything... I like that I cycle to the forest a lot cause that's the best ground to be to think about everything, about life, about friends about my history...
I lost some friends that I thought were friends for life, I know see that they were only using me to get some free weed or booze... I ain't taking that anymore so I broke contact with them... I'm trying to build up a completely new life starting last week... I'll get there I'm sure but it will take time, some lonelyness and a lot of talking...
but I'll get through it...
Thnx everybody for your support
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"Going to the grave without ever having a psychedelic experience is like going to the grave without ever having sex. That means you will die before even becoming an adolescent." -Terence Mckenna
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Brakkie]
#5153325 - 01/08/06 04:57 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just an update on you guys...
I've been going ok for about a month after the last post... But I've quit seeing my psych (again) cause I didn't feel like I needed it anymore... I don't think that he'll be able to help me... Meds might help me but I refuse to take 'em...
Since like beginning of December things started going down fast again... I'm seeing myself getting from someone who goes out every now and then to someone who likes to stay in his room most of the time... When I'm not at work I'm in my room... I do go out with friends but that's just to get high... I don't go out to talk to them or anything but just to show my fac again for a change... It's not that I don't like 'em or anything it's just like I don't really want anyone right now... I just want peace and solitute and just ride this all out...
I'm thinking about suicide a lot... Just while I'm at work I don't pay any attention and just think about how my gf would react if I'd be dead... How my friends would react... How would it be like?
I've been thinking of several ways on how to do it and I've got it all figured out... I've been writing lots of letters lately and most of them are generally sad and got lots of connections with death... I've even signed a couple of letters with drips of blood... I'm trying to fight all this but I'm just tired...
I'm just tired with fighting all this... Dealing with all the shit I've to go through... Dealing with life... Dealing with my emotions that are just fighting eachother... Dealing with the fact that my emotions were coming back for a while but are now getting fucked up again...
I don't know what to do and don't even know why I'm posting all this here...
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"Going to the grave without ever having a psychedelic experience is like going to the grave without ever having sex. That means you will die before even becoming an adolescent." -Terence Mckenna
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Brakkie]
#5153385 - 01/08/06 06:53 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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suicid is just a means of escape. It is admiting that you cant handle life and are powerless to fix it. Maybe thats what your family was trying to tell you when they were calling you weak. You seem like a preaty proud person rather then taking the easy way out and ending your life why not focus your atentions to trying to make your situation better?
What is it that makes you unhappy about your life? lack of friends? Find some new ones who actualy care about you and not just weed or booze. Your parents bugged you so you moved out that was a good step you found something wrong and you changed your situation. Stoping seeing your shrink was probably not a good idea you were starting to do better then you stop seeing them and start getting worse. is there a conection there? Drugs and alchol are a means of escape also one of the first things I did when I delt with depreshion was to stop drinking or doing any drugs. You realy cant get any better unless you actively want to help your self change is hard sometimes but it can also be very good.
It almost sounds like you get something from being depressed and suicidal. Maybe you like the atention people give you when they are worried about you, even if it is bad atention. reading this thread and what you have writen it sounds like you do have some problems that you are dealing with but it also seems like your reactions to things only makes things worse for you. Like you getting mad when you were trying to be nice and your dad changing his mind about wanting coffie. It sounds alot like you snapped at him, saying that you arnt his slave, that would upset me if I were in his shoes. See things from his view one minute your nice and everything is calm and the next your telling him he treats you like a slave because he changed his mind about wanting coffie that you offered to get in the first place. Why not just walk back to the kitchen and get him coffie? or why not at the very least chose some better words. In that situation I woulda said sorry you missed your chance I dont want to walk back to the kitchen now.
You also seem to be realy hostle and defensive. Rather then trying to comunicate with people and make them understand your situation and feelings you seem to automaticly go on the defensive when they dont. Geting hostle and defensive is not a good way to get people to listen to you. It sounds like there are people trying to help you that may not understand you and instead of working with them you are pushing them away with your atitude and actions.
I dont know you and I dont know your situation, but before you fire back with some defensive statement about me making judgements on you (as you have done to many other in this thread) maybe read what I have said and think about it a little. I had an abusive father, I had friends who just used me, and I constantly have trouble comunicating and conecting with people, I do understand these things a bit. But yes I am not you and no one ever is going to understand you the way you do or see things exactly from your point of view either. Yet if you try to see things from there and they try to see things from yours maybe you will find a happy medium.
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Re: at a friends house [Re: blueferret]
#5153437 - 01/08/06 07:30 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not going to fire back any defensive comments cause I know you mean it in a good way...
Let me try and explain the situation at my family's house in a global way...
My dad has been in a rather fucked up family in his youth. His parents were both depressed and had done several suicide attempts and ended up in hospital multiple times... His brother ended up in a psych ward and his sister commit suicide... He had a rather poor family and wasn't really accepted in his family. He moved out when he was young just like I did... He began drinking a lot and still does till this day... His personality is just changed a lot by his past and there's nothing I can do about it or blame him for it... He has been pretty agressive at times and he has tried to hit my sis and bro and me numberous times. We had a lot of fights at home and there never some something I would call HOME... It was just a place where I was put to eat and sleep... That's basically it...
Then my dad had a stroke and that changed him even more... Instead of stopping drinking he began drinking even more cause he couldn't work as much as he used to. He started drinking at 4 PM then it went to 3 PM and then it went to 1 PM in the afternoon... Whenever he drank alcohol he became agressive and was looking for fights...
Finally I left the house as you all know...
Well there are actually quit a lot of things in my life that are making me unhappy... First off I got lots of problems with my emotions... I can't deal with them and I get confused when I have more then 1 emotion at the time... It's something that came out of a long supression of my feelings. It's hard for me to place my emotions and most of the times I get confused cause I don't know how to deal with 'em... I'm improving though cause in the past I used to become agressive and used to shout or punch at my wall or my door when I couldn't deal with 'em... I guess it was just the feeling of powerless... but now most of the times when I can't deal with 'em I sit down and try to get them straight or I take a walk outside...
Second I can't trust anyone... I don't really have the feeling like I can trust someone... I trust my gf but that's the only person that I can trust... This is the result of multiple situations where my trust was bluntly thrown out of the window... I've trusted a friend of mine before and told him quit some personal things and he seemed really understanding and helpfull and I thought that he was one of my best friends... He ended up telling others and laughing about it... Since I can't trust most of the people (or at least it's VERY hard for me) it's hard for me to make friends or social contacts with others cause I'll get the feeling like they'll make fun of me...
Third off is that I don't feel comfertable at work or what I call home right now... I'm looking for an appt mself atm and hoping to find one soon... I do like my friends but it was just temp and my friends smoke weed and drink a lot... Not that I got anything against it but I can see myself that if I want to stop smoking pot then I shouldn't be in a house with people that smoke a lot... My friends like to party and bring chicks home and party here etc... That's something I don't really enjoy doing... I rather just hang out with a couple of people and just have a few beers maybe a bowl rather than the bullshit and loudness of a party... I want to break out of this schedule and start a complete new life... Start somewhere else then Rotterdam (where I've lived for 19 years) and start somewhere else... I feel like I need to change and need to move somewhere else... And I will I just need to find myself a new appt somewhere else...
I'm not looking for any attention or anything... I'd rather don't have any at all... You (the ones that read this) and my gf are the only ones that really know how I feel... but I could use some advice or help on how to deal with all this just like you guys are doing right now... Which I would like to thank you all for!
and I realise that suicide is an escape to all this and I rather not go that far but it's hard for me to put all the energy in recovering and then be put down again and have to start all over again...
Stop seeing my shrink is a personal choice. I felt like I was ok again and I told him that I was gonna stop seeing him for a while and he agreed but it's coming back right now and I made make a new appointment soon...
And again thanks for your reply!
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Brakkie]
#5153612 - 01/08/06 09:14 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Let me try and explain the situation at my family's house in a global way...
My dad has been in a rather fucked up family in his youth. His parents were both depressed and had done several suicide attempts and ended up in hospital multiple times... His brother ended up in a psych ward and his sister commit suicide... He had a rather poor family and wasn't really accepted in his family. He moved out when he was young just like I did... He began drinking a lot and still does till this day... His personality is just changed a lot by his past and there's nothing I can do about it or blame him for it... He has been pretty agressive at times and he has tried to hit my sis and bro and me numberous times. We had a lot of fights at home and there never some something I would call HOME... It was just a place where I was put to eat and sleep... That's basically it...
This means you have a family history of these kind of actions as well as probably adiction, as it sounds like your dad is an alcoholic. You should seriously consider not drinking or smoking period. Also your dad as well as your self should probably be on some form of medication for this. I understand being against medication but for some people it realy truely helps and its not always a life long thing either. You also describe emotions and thoughts which are out of your control and run your life this sounds like an anxiety disorder to me. Many of which the most effective treatment is medication. I was on prozac for aproxamitly 7 months it did wonders for me.
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Re: at a friends house [Re: blueferret]
#5153897 - 01/08/06 10:38 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I know I'm from a family with some history...
Well yeah my dad is an alcoholic in my view and in his own he has a problem too... (He admitted it once) Well I haven't smoked today and I'm out of weed or hash... I'm really gonna try and pull it through this time... I sold my bong and pipes to a friend of mine...
I'm trying to get an appointment tommorow and see how it goes again... Well I'll think about taking meds but really if there's something I hate it's that...
I was put on really heavy medications when I was a child cause of my ilnesses (docs already told my parents I was gonna be dead in a day) and since then I refused to take any meds then asprins...
What kinda meds would the doc put me on? I want to do some research into it cause I ain't gonna see him in a week (or maybe 2) so I got plenty of time to find out what I'm looking at if he would put me on meds...
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"Going to the grave without ever having a psychedelic experience is like going to the grave without ever having sex. That means you will die before even becoming an adolescent." -Terence Mckenna
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Re: at a friends house [Re: Brakkie]
#5155410 - 01/08/06 04:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.crazymeds.org/intro.htm
This site is run by a guy that has been on just about everything there is, and if he hasn't, someone he knows has.
It'd be a little daunting to look through all the effects he lists for all the differnt meds, but it helped me when I was prescribed stuff long ago and wanted to see the side effects and what not.
Best wishes to 'ya!
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Carl G. Jung
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Terence McKenna
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Re: at a friends house [Re: VirgilKane]
#5161854 - 01/10/06 07:42 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thnx a lot...
I got an appointment for Friday so I'll see how it goes...
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"Going to the grave without ever having a psychedelic experience is like going to the grave without ever having sex. That means you will die before even becoming an adolescent." -Terence Mckenna
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