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 Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026426 - 12/06/05 10:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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still, fucking nuts, i think we all were eager to define it for some reason....
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Leary_Ban]
#5026436 - 12/06/05 10:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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The after effects of the bomb must be terrible. Chernobyl style, you think?
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
#5026437 - 12/06/05 10:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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that's pretty fucked up.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Redstorm]
#5026457 - 12/06/05 11:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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My only source is a guy that was there and is severely fucked up emotionally now because of what he saw/had to do there.
He's a solid guy, honest to the bone, and doesn't make shit up like having to collect arms and legs and shoot innocent people in the face.
I wasn't there. But I believe him.
And I don't believe what the government officially tells me about what happened there.
He says we won because we killed everyone.
Normal bombs, Neutron bombs, Tactical Air Strikes. We used it all.
"The Whole 9 Yards"
You know that term comes from WWII.. when a machine gunners clip on the plane was 9 yards long....hence.. the whole 9 yards.
These days they are experimenting with radiation guns.
That's right. Radiation guns.
And they have these special strobe lights they shine in your eyes and they shut down your central nervous system, so you just fall to the ground, paralyzed.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026463 - 12/06/05 11:06 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
We had Neutron bombs fifteen years ago.
We used them in Desert Storm.
That's why we won in like, a day.
Do you have evidence that a neutron bomb was used in Desert Storm?
Also, Desert Storm was not won in a day.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5026466 - 12/06/05 11:07 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Neutron bombs don't leave evidence.
Ok... two days.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026468 - 12/06/05 11:07 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just because there were body parts, doesn't mean it was a neutron bomb. Regular explosive devices do that as well.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026472 - 12/06/05 11:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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More like several weeks.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026473 - 12/06/05 11:08 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have no doubts they're cooking something up nasty. What scares me is the biological weapons research. They could create a virus that'd get totally out of control. Some things aren't meant to be fucked with....
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Redstorm]
#5026479 - 12/06/05 11:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, but the part about neutron bombs comes from his commanding officers telling them that they were setting off neutron bombs, and what they do, and what their jobs were. Cleanup crew for the neutron bombs. In Desert Storm. Regular bombs don't leave people mutated and dying from radiation poisoning.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Redstorm]
#5026480 - 12/06/05 11:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
Just because there were body parts, doesn't mean it was a neutron bomb. Regular explosive devices do that as well.
Neutron bombs are actually renowned for the very small amount of physical damage they do (people's limbs would not have been blown apart). They are life killers....not property destroyers. They give off a special radiation which penetrates bunkers and everything else and kills all living things.
Maybe Shroomism was referring to depleted uranium?
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026491 - 12/06/05 11:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
Yeah, but the part about neutron bombs comes from his commanding officers telling them that they were setting off neutron bombs, and what they do, and what their jobs were. Cleanup crew for the neutron bombs. In Desert Storm. Regular bombs don't leave people mutated and dying from radiation poisoning.
Ok, Shroomism, you are an intelligent man. Think about this for a second. If his superior knew about this, that meant that many, many other low-level military officers knew about this. If your boddy knew about it, that means other soldiers knew about it as well. Why is there so little information about this? If this was legitimate, it would be all over the place.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5026496 - 12/06/05 11:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nope... Neutron Bombs.
They were used. Along with all the other shit.
I must be thinking of something else though.. if you say several weeks.
I am referring to the final strike, that lasted a day, and ended the war. Neutron bombs.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Noviseer]
#5026501 - 12/06/05 11:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Noviseer said:
Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy,
With no less value to property!
No sense in war, but perfect sense at home...
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Redstorm]
#5026510 - 12/06/05 11:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe.. maybe not. Do you know how the mind of military folks work?
Do you know anyone that was in WWII? Vietnam? Korea?
Do they often openly tell you what tactics they used to kill other humans?
All the vets I know don't talk about shit. War is ugly business. I wouldn't want to talk about it either.
Not to mention the whole classified deal..
This guy told us because he trusted us and was really fucked up from it, he needed to tell someone to get it off his chest. He was also a sniper behind enemy lines in Panama, and he talks about that a lot easier than Desert Storm.
Oh, he went to retire last year.. and they said no.
They sent him to Iraq instead.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026517 - 12/06/05 11:17 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
Nope... Neutron Bombs.
They were used. Along with all the other shit.
I must be thinking of something else though.. if you say several weeks.
I am referring to the final strike, that lasted a day, and ended the war. Neutron bombs.
I am quite well versed in history and current events. To my knowledge, the war was not ended in a "final strike". The war was a pretty conventional one (i.e. planes went in and blew up radar stations, bridges, and military targets and ground troops moved in and mopped up the leftovers).
There were reporters all over the place. Don't you think they would have noticed a big area with tons of people dead of radiation poisioning and no physical damage?
Conventional bombs did quite well in destroying the Iraqi military and infrastructure. I saw pictures of a massive Iraqi army convoy that was decimated by good old-fashioned bombs. Thousands died in that.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Shroomism]
#5026522 - 12/06/05 11:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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For god's sake, Shroomism. If your buddy who knew about this trusted you enough to tell you, why wouldn't all the other soliders doing shit work like picking up body parts tell all the friends they trust? To me, it stinks like b.s.
I'm not saying your friend didn't see some crazy shit, I'm just saying he didn't see neutron bombs.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Koala Koolio]
#5026523 - 12/06/05 11:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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elgr said:
Quote:
Noviseer said:
Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy,
With no less value to property!
No sense in war, but perfect sense at home...
Kill the Poor!
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5026530 - 12/06/05 11:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Desert Storm is the farthest thing from a "conventional war" that I can possibly think of.
It was on TV.
How many troops did we lose?
How many did we kill?
Reporters were/are only allowed in certain areas.
I don't have the facts in front of me (and I'm too lazy to look for them)
But I am pretty sure that Desert Storm was the fastest war in history.
The biggest "strike" lasted a day, two at most. And we won. Maybe there was two weeks of skirmishes before that, but the real battle was fought and won in several hours.
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Re: Soooo if we secretly had Nukes 50 yuears ago....... [Re: Redstorm]
#5026542 - 12/06/05 11:23 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm saying you don't know what he did or did not see.. and neither do I.. but I am more likely to believe him.
If you were the military, and you had Neutron bombs.. why WOULDN'T you use them in DESERT STORM? And if you did... would you tell NBC, FOX, and the Washington Post?
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