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 Re: Gummihuasca experiment - Black Currant Juice to increase mushroom effects - Please contribute [Re: HeavyToilet]
#5041178 - 12/09/05 08:08 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright well I think I'm gonna take 90mLs. That's three times the suggested daily intake of vitamin C.
I'll probably take it in an hour and 20 minutes I'm thinking
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Re: Gummihuasca experiment - Black Currant Juice to increase mushroom effects - Please contribute [Re: HeavyToilet]
#5041360 - 12/09/05 09:18 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright guys I just took 90mLs of the BC concentrate.
I'm gonna eat the mushrooms in about 55 minutes.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: HeavyToilet]
#5041849 - 12/09/05 10:53 PM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just curious, but does anyone think this would work with lsd?
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: shroomed]
#5042440 - 12/10/05 12:44 AM (3 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm pretty sure MAOIs and LSD cancel each other out.
But yeah, it didn't work too well.
The hallucinations weren't as clear as when I did an eighth of these mushrooms. I'm feeling pretty cold right now... but maybe I'll post more tomorrow.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: HeavyToilet]
#5042992 - 12/10/05 05:25 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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After reading the amazing Gummihuaska post I became very anxious to try it as soon as possible.
I checked several supermarkets but the only Ribena I could find was the Original with 6% juice content.
Yet, looks like I've found a perfect analog - frozen black currant berries from a local Russian food store.
I meshed the berries, mixed them with some Ribena Original to make it more liquid and drank 2 cups. Also, I have taken 2 Aurorix tablets.
Shrooms that I had were in my growbox, but for some reason they were not growing well and withered just after reaching 3-4 cm height. I picked all of them and their weight combined to 27g.
Not much, especially taking into account their miserable looks.
I mixed the shrooms in a mixer with 2 cups of lemon and grapefruit juice and left them to stay.
1 hour after taking the black currant juice and Aurorix I drank 1 cup of the shroom juice, leaving the second one to take later if needed.
That was the WISEST thing I could do.
Black currant works, that is for sure.
I have tried shrooms with lemon/lime juice, with harmala, aurorix, passionflower extract, etc.
This time it was like never before. I was swept, trampled, smashed and humiliated. I am terrified with a thought that I could take 2 cups at once. That was a real near and beyond death experience, both spiritually and physically.
Yes, black currant works. But people, DO BE CAREFUL.
I'll post the trip details in a couple of days, I still sweat cold when recalling it.
Here is the technical description:
- How experienced are you with psychedelics?: I have been tripping on mushrooms for 2 years - 20-30? trips. 2 LSD trips. 20-30 Salvia experiences (plain leaf?5x-10x-20x). Ololiuqui seeds ? 10 seeds just once. 2 Iboga powder trips (8g, 20g). Lots of herbal psychoactive experiments. Hash ? hundreds of times. Cannabis drunk and eaten ? hundreds of times. When I was younger I tried everything that was available: barbiturates, opium smoked/eaten/intravenuously, acetone inhalations and lots of other bullshit. I?m a proud pot smoker for roughly 24 years.
- Days since last trip on psychedelics: 5 weeks ago - Ps.cub 3g dry + 3g Syrian rue; 4 weeks ago - 20g iboga powder; 2 weeks ago - 3g Syrian rue + 10g MHRB
- Black Currant Juice brand: about 200-250g fresh (frozen) berries mixed with 1 cup of Ribena Original (6%) - - Juice Quantity: 400-450 g
- Mushrooms species: Psilocybe Cubensis homegrown
- Mushrooms Quantity: appr. 14 gr. fresh
- Did you know the potency of the mushrooms beforehand? (Y/N): No, my first crop.
- Hours since last meal: 24 h.
- Did you put your mushrooms in a coffee grinder for a while until you got a fine powder? (Y/N): No, mixed in a blender with lemon and grapefruit juice
- Did you soak the mushrooms in lemon/lime or BC juice as in STEP 5? (Y/N): Yes, for 30 minutes, 250ml pure lemon juice + 200ml grapefruit juice.
- Are you positively sure that there IS definitely an improvement in potency? (Y/N): ABSOLUTELY
- Estimated potency compared vs. no juice: 4X-5X
- Estimated potency compared vs. Lemon/Lime juice: 3X-4X
- Estimated total potency: 6X-10X?
- Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen"): 10 mins.
- Time to onset of visual disturbance: 15-20 mins.
- Time to peak (rough estimate): 2-4 hours
- Time to first sign of diminishing effects: 6 hours
- Time to baseline (indiscernable effects): 12 hours
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: shneck]
#5043031 - 12/10/05 06:03 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Tryptonaut wrote:
?hem, Shnek - you say you took Moclobemide, a reversible monoamine oxidase inhibitor, before you took the shrooms. That voids the whole Black Currant Juice experiment because you already magnify the mushrooms with this strong pharmaceutical MAOI...
No, Trypto, it does not void anything at all. I took lemon/lime mushies with aurorix (moclobemide) quite a few times. This time it was the SAME COMBO + black currant. Subjectively it is 3-4 times stronger THAN THE SAME COMBO w/o currant.
There could be other significant things that might have affected the purity of the test, the major one being that the shrooms I took last time were 1st flush of a new growbox. I compared them to other shrooms which might be weaker, - yet, I doubt the difference in strength could be so huge - they should have been called Cryptonite Cubensis then. Also, the character of the trip was much different from anything I ever experienced before - I even suspect that could it be some mush infection? Matter is that this flush looks quite strange, shrooms are withered, they didn't grow over 3-5 cm, the caps did not open at all, their colour was bluish with some dark almost black speckles, and stuff. I understand there are lots of factors, but I do not own a test lab, so that's the test as it went - far from being objective, yet the only one I had.
Anyway, there is another thing I also wanted to add here.
Yesterday I did it again, no aurorix and 8g fresh mushrooms.
It was just 2 times weaker than the previous trip on 14 grams (note that no aurorix did not seem to influence the potency at all), but the trip character was exactly the same.
They both were absolutely the BADDEST trips I ever had.
Bad in the sense of the ultimate pain and suffering they gave me both times, especially the last time with less shroomz.
But as almost every time with the shrooms, bad trips become real gifts when you think them over afterwards.
These both trips helped me a LOT to understand my bad psychological condition, and they gave me clear tips on what I must do to fix my situation ASAP.
Of course, it might be my own problem that influenced the trip as well. Still, this problem is quite old, yet I have never experienced anything close in my previous trips, even the "bad" ones. I'm really lucky that I haven't done any physical damage to myself, but it was close.
Everything I wrote above is to warn you that maybe the black currant changes somehow your trip and makes it very insightful but no fun at all.
Just be careful with it, might well need more research.
Will try to post the report tomorrow, you will definitely understand better what I tried to explain here.
P.S. Yes, the part I wondered about was the "Gummi". Maybe it has something to do with Gummy Bears? Some kind of cartoon characters, I guess.
Peace.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: shneck]
#5043033 - 12/10/05 06:05 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well, finally I made it:
First effects started creeping over me almost immediately, in 10 minutes I knew something was coming and it felt very much different from anything I experienced before. I felt the usual slight nausea, which in a few minutes gained more of a psychological than physical character. Do not really know how to explain it, but the speedy rushness and power of it made me feel a bit uneasy. I am a 20-odd year pot smoker, and MJ always helped me before in cases of any substance overdose, so I started rolling a joint to calm myself down if needed.
It was less than 15 min from the start, and yet I have already felt certain difficulty in fixing my roach which never happened to me before ? it?s usually an almost reflectory action, my hands know how to do it without any help from the brain.
Anyway, I managed it, and a few minutes later I lit the joint cause I was feeling more and more alarmed with the sheer energy of the psilocin advance. I have to mention that usually I smoke when I?m peaking and on.
When I finished I felt no usual sedative effect, and the cannabis-produced visual myst kept not more than a few minutes. I could literally see how the psilocin ripped all the MJ effects apart, and 20 minutes after the launch my eyesight was all incredibly crisp and detailed again; 10 minutes later I was aboard the crazy Blain-the-Train rushing headlong.
I was in my flat which is very cosy and which always perfectly suited my trips before. Music playing was a compilation of Orb, Ozric Tentacles, Oorzhak Siberian chants and similar stuff.
The nausea has passed, only to be replaced with a heaviness in my stomach. Quite suddenly I realized that my vision has changed again significantly and reality around me acquired a strange faceted nature. Time was progressing in a sort of jerky and uneven fashion, as if water pumped irregularly by some huge invisible pump. Every ?stroke? was marked by increase in facetedness of my vision to an extent when everything started looking like incredibly detailed mosaic. The music made me more and more nervous, yet strangely I could not make myself grab the remote and switch it off. Luckily, the disk was running to the end and I felt enormous relief when it stopped.
The relief did not last for more than a moment though. I cast a look at the wall clock - 40-something min from the start only.
Feeling more and more anxious I could not find a place to accommodate myself, finally I put on my shoes and coat and decided to take a walk to the park behind my house.
I live on a 3rd floor; when I closed the door behind me and started descending, I noticed that the stairs were gone and I was in a weird cavelike shimmering place which I have never seen before. I was so amazed that it did not even occur to me that I could switch on the lights, and I proceeded down this strange hobbit-like hole in darkness. Well, it wasn't darkness at all. Most of all it looked like kind of mother-of-pearl spiralling tunnel going down for miles. It took me aeons to get to the ground floor, but that was one of the most amazing experiences, I felt like Alice entering the well in the ground, the walls were glimmering with a phosphorish glow and strangest subtle sounds echoed in the dark around.
Finally, I popped out into the street and stopped right there stunned by the indescribably magnificent view that unfolded.
There I stood like 5-10-20? min just watching the streetlights, the breathing trees and bushes, all extremely, unbelievably faceted and weavery. By that time every individual ?facet? gained a halo around it, and I could hardly discern the objects around, imagine that you look through a stocking on your head and the stocking is glowing blue-green-purple, that?s more or less close.
When I moved my head, the halos moved along leaving disappearing traces, that was the first time I felt kind of an eye-orgasm.
All of a sudden a horrible feeling of something extremely wrong fell on me, and a moment later it took form of ugly sounds of loud pop-music coming from the house opposite the street. It must have been there all the time but I noticed it only then and it made me shudder, so rude and false and repulsive it was.
To boot I understood that it was raining, and my feet felt wet, and all in all I started feeling greatest discomfort.
I turned back and almost ran half the block back to my house, up the no-more mysterious stairs and back into my flat.
I thought I was tripping hardest before, but I knew it was just a start as soon as I was back inside.
When I switched on the lights in my room everything was floating in a thick orange haze. I staggered to the sofa, pulled off the coat, threw the shoes off, studded on the sofa, shaking with cold and trying to warm my wet feet.
The lights were unbearable, so I switched them off, cuddled under the blanket and tried to comfort myself.
That was not an easy thing to do at all. The stomach felt incredibly heavy, and the overall gloomy and uneasy mood was setting in over me quickly. My head was throbbing, I heard the strangest squeaky sounds inside my very brain. The trip was now going locomotive pace, and I started experiencing some momentary lapses of reason which were becoming more and more frequent and alarming.
That is when the ?bad? part began.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: shneck]
#5043034 - 12/10/05 06:06 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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I was lying on a sofa, curled under a blanket. The cold feeling has passed. With my eyes closed, my head under the blanket, I was in complete darkness, all alone. The screeching high-pitched noises inside my head have already become harmonic and rhythmical, forming an eery ?neuro-music?. I had intense CEV?s of monstrous miriad-colored tentacle-like things squirming at an incredible speed. They were of more-than-3D nature, but their beautiful unearthly colours did not entertain me at all.
At the same time, as though two independent observers were inside myself now, I was registering these metal screeches, and at some point I first ?knew?, and then started ?seeing? strange tiny comma-like entities that were their source. Then I understood that I ?saw? my brain from inside, it looked like a huge labyrinth of eery hanging neurons-axons-receptors, some moss-like, others like snail-eyes on stems, others more like wavy coloured threads disappearing in the darkness. The ?commas? were ?psilocibes? that peeked once and again from out of different caches and niches and ?corners?, uttering this strange reverberating sound that ripped the menacing silence like camertone.
Gradually, both the tentacles and the ?psilocybes? were gone, actually, everything was gone except for the dark void I was in now.
The heavy peaking pace was not felt any more. The silence was deafening.
From now on I am not quite sure of anything that happened. What I will describe is my version based on rags of memories left of the experience.
After the silence and loneliness set in I was left alone with my thoughts. Subjectively, time was 1-1.30 hours since the start only, but I can?t be sure at all. I felt terribly alone, like nothing existed, or rather everything, the whole universe has vanished leaving only myself and the pitch-black darkness. An this ?myself? was rapidly dissolving, disintegrating with every moment. Like I said, the rush was gone, but I would give everything I had to change it back for this nothingness. Thoughts were coming into my mind one after another, slowly, melting into nothingness and it felt like less and less of them were left and soon I will run out of them all. I was recalling my friends, my wife, my son, and right after I thought of each of them they were gone like forever and it was the last time I would remember them. The remnants of my conscience tipped me that it was the ?ego dissolution? thing, and there was nothing to be afraid of, and then I said goodbye to the last thought which was my name.
I was completely blank. Even the ?I? is wrong, technically, there was no ?I? any more.
Then the most horrible stage came. I mean it was absolutely the most terrifying and scary state that I have ever went through in my whole life.
When my name was gone, the speed of the rush was back, and tenfold. I was now nothing but insanely racing couple of thoughts, and it felt like a supersonic vertical ascent of thinking process to unreachable shining heights, black shining heights. The perception gaps were becoming more and more frequent, and every time thinking was back, it was just ?Why?!? ?Why is life???? ?What is it all for? ?What is good?? ?What is bad? and the like.
Then it became worse. Thoughts were back, steroid-pumped, one of them I remember was running in an endless crooked circle without getting an answer that seemed so close ? that?s the best way I can explain it in words.
The parallel thought was of a complete absolute freedom which did not give any joy, and this absolute freedom was becoming more absolute than a moment ago and on and on till it became one white piercing light that shone forever and I growled in inexplainable pain, the psychological pain which no physical pain comes even close to.
That is when I think I screamed and screamed for endless seconds and I have a flash of the memory of that moment when it felt like I was born into something absolutely out of all times and worlds, into some new being.
This is when I start remembering more bits and pieces. I remember making bubbling noises, now standing in the middle of the room, now lying on a sofa again and trying to pierce the glass of my table with my hand ? I remember thinking the glass as well as everything in the universe being just constellations of particles with nothing between them, and other terrifying snapshots that won?t fit into even the longest report.
One of the most scary moments was when I was juggling the idea of death ?is it worth trying? What is there beyond the final threshhold?
And the scarest of all was the peak ? when I saw what madness is, and I went in there, and I felt the full taste of insanity that I remember clear till now and I doubt I would ever forget how it feels to be locked inside your brain beating the walls of the scull with no hope to ever get out.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: shneck]
#5043036 - 12/10/05 06:06 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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When I came back I was standing in the middle of my room, dazed, staggering and confused. I looked around. The blanket was on the floor, the stand-lamp toppled and broken, ash-tray pieces lying amidst the broken cigarettes and crumbles of pot scattered all around.
I felt utmost horror. I looked at the clock, it was already half past 3 or 4 am, can?t remember exactly.
I looked into the mirror and the horror came back in full. My face was deformed, I felt pieces of my teeth in my mouth, my jaw looked broken. I had a big shine on my forehead and my left hand was injured quite heavily, probably because of my trying to pierce the objects around.
I looked at myself and I thought: ?Well, you got what you deserve. Now you will have to learn how to live with all what you went through?
I took the half of the lemon/shroom juice that was left, shaking with the thought what could happen if I took it all, ran to the bathroom and tossed it into the sink almost in panic. I felt enormous tension in the middle of my stomack and I thought that I just need to force myself to shit or to puke cause this tension was psychological and I needed to get rid of it as soon as I could. I managed to puke 2 times and I did felt just a bit better.
I washed my face and then I new I was still tripping, and hard.
The walls, furniture, the floor, the ceiling ? everything was morphing insanely, so I crawled back into my bed.
I was lying there till the afternoon. Al of the time I was brooding on what was the sense of my living, one of such moments I saw my organism as an empty box which was full of life-force once, but now it was empty, weak and useless, and lots of other deep and unhappy thoughts. The last obvious effects disappeared by 8-9 am. Still, until the evening I felt not myself, and my only thoughts were about the cruelty of existence which has no purpose but living through some dozens of years and then rotting and finally be gone like one never existed.
I felt extremely sad. The only thing I saw positive was that I did not want to smoke at all. I?m a regular smoker, 20-25 cigs per day for more than 20 years, but now it?s over two weeks that I do not smoke (tobacco) and I do not feel any desire to.
So, that?s more or less how it was.
Sorry for the long post.
The description sucks, you know how difficult it is when you try to render psychedelic experience in words, and I?m not a writer anyway.
I just want to stress to all of you guys ? usually it?s us that eat the mushrooms, but sometimes it happens vice versa.
Do be careful.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: shneck]
#5043245 - 12/10/05 08:43 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Thanks for that impressive report shneck.
"This time it was like never before. I was swept, trampled, smashed and humiliated. I am terrified with a thought that I could take 2 cups at once. That was a real near and beyond death experience, both spiritually and physically."
You are the second person to speak like that about a trip with BC juice...out of 2 who have tested it by now.
It's a pity that using Aurorix. It's good that you had tested Aurorix with lemon juice before too, so that you can compare. It's good that you used real black currants juice from fresh BCs too. You say you ate 200-250gr. of black currants + 1 cup of Ribena, which is pretty close to the 275ml. suggested in the patent.
Good work. 
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: infinitedot]
#5043683 - 12/10/05 11:09 AM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well I don't know.
Maybe I should have taken more BC juice. I was hesitant because I don't know if you can have an adverse reaction to taking too much vitamin C or what.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: HeavyToilet]
#5044550 - 12/10/05 02:26 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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No worries, at least you tried Heavytoilet.
The old pharmacological saying applies here: Everything is toxic. At the right dose.
I also think maybe you should have drank more juice, but now we have got another interesting data too: 90ml. of Ribena Original might not be enough to induce the desired effects.
Pauling, winner of 2 Nobel prizes, chemistry and peace, himself reportedly took at least 12,000 mg daily and raised the amount to 40,000 mg if symptoms of a cold appear. That's 80-200 times the recommended dayly amount of Vitamin C.
Everybody criticized because of his hypervitaminosis proposal as an aid to fight cancer. Recently it has been proved that Vitamin C stops cancer development.
Anyway, more tests are needed to deduce any valid conclusions.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: infinitedot]
#5044563 - 12/10/05 02:30 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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Alright, well next time I'll maybe just drink the last 410mLs.
Although, if it takes a bottle and a half of this stuff to double the effects, it wouldn't be cost worthy for me to do so. Since a bottle and a half would cost about 10 or 11 bucks (not to mention the cost of mushrooms), and I can get an eighth for $10.
And one of the reasons that I didn't do more, was someone in the Shroomery irc chat said I'd get terrible diarrhea if I took 4 times the daily amount of vitamin C. I guess they had no idea what they were talking about.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: HeavyToilet]
#5044832 - 12/10/05 04:02 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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"Vitamin C is water soluble and is regularly excreted by the body. Therefore, toxicity is very rare. Amounts greater than 2,000 mg/day, however, are not recommended because such high doses can lead to stomach upset and diarrhea."
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002404.htm
In 275 ml. of the recommended pure BC juice to drink there are 550 mg. of Vitamin C, so it's safe.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: infinitedot]
#5044867 - 12/10/05 04:13 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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About the potentiation, though it's hard to say, Shneck estimates a total potency of 6X-10X, which agrees with the previous incubaby's estimate. Way more than just a 2X. Anyway, in my opinion, though it looks promising, no serious conclusions can be drawn yet.
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Re: *** BLACK CURRANT JUICE is a MAO inhibitor *** + Lemon Juice = 10X Effects?? [Re: infinitedot]
#5045640 - 12/10/05 07:16 PM (3 years, 30 days ago) |
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hmmmm... im begining to wonder if BC ALONE isnt powerful enough to make a huge difference but that becomes exponential when you mix two potentiators
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Re: *** Gummiberry juice experiment: Black Currant Juice + Lemon Juice = 10X Potency!! *** [Re: Underhillmaster]
#5051971 - 12/12/05 11:38 AM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
Underhillmaster said:
BC juice will be acidic enough to start the psylocybin conversion process. I experimented with cranberry juice for a year before discovering lemon juice. Cranberry's ph is a bit over 3, so not as acidic as BC. Since BC juice may be hard to come by in some places in the states, we need to find an online source 
i could probably arrange for some 100% bc juice (just pressed juce from the berries with the gink still in it.. its manifactured here in my country, same as pure apple juice, i think its ecological and free from preservatives.
its sold in one litre pacs, but i would have to check prices and such (i seem to remember thta they are quite pricey (like around threeor four dollars). it also depends on how much people will be wanting. if many peopel want it... i suppose i could buy directly from the suplier, and get a better price.
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Edited by Mindzpore (12/12/05 11:48 AM)
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Re: *** Gummiberry juice experiment: Black Currant Juice + Lemon Juice = 10X Potency!! *** [Re: Mindzpore]
#5052899 - 12/12/05 03:09 PM (3 years, 28 days ago) |
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well thats about what i payed here...
and it was 37%, id be willing to go in on it, maybe we could organize a group buy, where exacly is your country?
the only thing im worried about is shipping
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Re: *** Gummiberry juice experiment: Black Currant Juice + Lemon Juice = 10X Potency!! *** [Re: incubaby_421]
#5055911 - 12/13/05 03:03 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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i live in scandinavia, but yesterday i checked the store where i used to buy the stuff (two - three years ago) and i coulndt find it.
i will check a few other shops, or even contact the manifacturer (if there is enough interest).
it might even be possible to get hold of a concentrated version (pure juice that has been concentrated - ie. more than 100%) allthough im not sure how the concentration process would affect the compounds we are interested in.
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Re: *** Gummiberry juice experiment: Black Currant Juice + Lemon Juice = 10X Potency!! *** [Re: Mindzpore]
#5056200 - 12/13/05 07:22 AM (3 years, 27 days ago) |
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i dont know, and i wouldnt, dot... would you care to enlightne us juicemaster?
word has come down that i will be once agian voyaging to the outer limits of azwethinkweiz this weekend...
i will try out just BC juice this time, we'll see how that goes
though it might not be till next weekend becuase ive been itching to drop this acid... well see how it works out
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