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 Cryogenicz
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 Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs 
#4865216 - 10/28/05 08:27 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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cap size 2-6 inches
spore print: na (possible brown?)
Gills: Start out white, turn brown with age.
Caps: smooth and dry
gills are not attached with veil
well, here are the pics:
Here are some boletes I found, are they edible do you think?
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4865906 - 10/28/05 11:58 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those first ones could be Agaricus. They're certainly not one of the species I find regularly.
Here's something to do with every suspected Agaricus: Cut one in half vertically, then scrape the inside flesh with your knife edge hard enough to bruise the tissue. The cut in half specimen will make it easy to be sure that the gills are free, a vital feature for Agaricus. The other thing you'll get is the bruising color. Color changes from bruising can take up to an hour. The freshly cut flesh often produces more odor than the whole mushroom, and the odor is also important for identification of Agaricus.
A spore print (on white paper) will also help confirm that those are Agaricus.
On the boletes, the tubes look to be yellow to brown colored and I don't see any blue bruising. Try scratching the tubes with your fingernail and see if they bruise blue at all. All of the poisonous bolete species in North America have red or orange tubes (or tube mouths), bruise blue, or both. If you find a bolete that has neither feature, it isn't poisonous. Some of them will be inedible because of flavor (bitter or peppery, for example) or because of texture or something else, but they shouldn't be poisonous. As far as how good they are to eat, that's often more a matter of personal opinion than anything else.
Happy mushrooming!
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Cryogenicz
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: ToxicMan]
#4866829 - 10/29/05 10:34 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks ToxicMan, you've been great help. Looks like they are agaricus. I cut them in half and the gills ARE free. I tasted them and they taste very similar to White button, cept they taste almost better (only because they are not so bland like white button). I think I am going to keep them and actually saute them and eat my FIRST wild specimen! YAY!
-Cry0
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4866842 - 10/29/05 10:36 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Where in ToxicMan's reply did he say they were edible? you didn't even take a spore print...
Agaricus is a very tough genus of mushrooms to identify correctly to species, and there are a number of toxic species in the genus among the edible ones. you could make yourself very sick if you go through with those plans.
eating wild mushrooms is not something to jump into like that. you need to really think about what you're doing dude, and read things carefully...
DH
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Cryogenicz
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4866892 - 10/29/05 10:52 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just sauted them up and had my first bite, tastes VERY close to white button, texture identical, very good mushroom. out of the 4 lbs, I split with my friend, so I had 2 lbs, only about 3 medium mushrooms didnt have worms in them, so I ate those, and they are GREAT.
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Cryogenicz
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4866898 - 10/29/05 10:56 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im still alive  (im just joking)
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Edited by Cryogenicz (10/29/05 10:57 AM)
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Cryogenicz
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4866909 - 10/29/05 10:59 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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one thing you have to realize, the friend who was hunting with me tried some yesterday, and he did not get an upset stomach or anything.
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4868604 - 10/29/05 09:21 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im still alive, havent felt ill yet.
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4875979 - 10/31/05 03:33 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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funny thing is...that those looks like I used to eat back in the day in soup.
lmao if I'm right
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Re: Another Agaracus Species? *pics* I found about 4 lbs [Re: Cryogenicz]
#4879255 - 11/01/05 10:09 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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On the positive side, the symptoms of Agaricus poisoning include gastrointestinal distress and a severe headache, but I'm not aware of anything that would normally be life threatening.
If you want to try a small amount (make it a smaller piece than a fingernail) of something to see if it's poisonous, just make certain that it's not lethal beforehand. It's probably a good idea to do your best also to confirm that it's not a know poisonous species, too (no point in getting sick if you could have avoided it). In the end, this is exactly how any new species (one you haven't eaten before) should be tried the first time.
Most species of Agaricus that are responsible for poisonings have an odor that is unpleasant. Cooking seems to enhance that odor, so smell Agaricus carefully before and during cooking. Remember that one bad specimen can contaminate the entire batch being cooked together.
Oddly enough, the most common and widespread Agaricus species is becoming (if it's not already) A. bisporus, the button mushroom from the grocery store. People throw some of them away, and the spores end up in the environment. They are probably displacing native local species in some areas.
Happy mushrooming!
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