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 The designated talk-about-the-forum thread 
#4855151 - 10/26/05 02:29 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK, new forum definition, fresh thread.
This is the thread to discuss the forum itself.
Discussion must be held in a respectful way where understanding eachothers POV is the primary goal since that is the norm in this forum.
This is not the place to discuss banned members, WA&F is.
This thread, like the forum, is moderated.
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 Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4855448 - 10/26/05 03:33 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I feel the forum suffers from poor moderation, does that belong in this thread?
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Silversoul]
#4855468 - 10/26/05 03:36 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe so. But I'm guessing there should be no pointing out any specefic mods.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: TameMe]
#4855482 - 10/26/05 03:38 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe so. But I'm guessing there should be no pointing out any specefic mods.
Fair enough. I've already pointed out the particular mod I have trouble with by filling out a support ticket. I urge anyone else who has problems with any of the moderators to do the same.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Silversoul]
#4855489 - 10/26/05 03:39 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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how do you
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: DeathCompany]
#4855510 - 10/26/05 03:42 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Web Announcements and Feedback forum has a Support Ticket System clicky in its' forum description. Just look at the Forum Index view & scroll down to that forum.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: DeathCompany]
#4855512 - 10/26/05 03:43 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Click here to fill out a Support Ticket.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4855789 - 10/26/05 04:42 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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for what its worth: i feel like the 2 threads have started to find their pace again. life is returning. i am now happy with them again... the forum titles still seem totally nonsensical to me, and i still think trying to draw a clear line between spirituality, religion and mysticism is pointless and impossible... but whatever. it doesnt really make a differance. SO yeah. im happy with stuff. 
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Moonshoe]
#4856134 - 10/26/05 05:54 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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PARADIGM said:
I've already pointed out the particular mod I have trouble with by filling out a support ticket.
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the moderator you got a problem with is me 
If you are willing to respectfully discuss the problem you see, then I feel that ought to be ok (unless you mean another mod, then you need to involve him.)
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MOONSHOE said:
for what its worth: i feel like the 2 threads have started to find their pace again. life is returning.
Things need to find their own pace and that takes time and effort on all sides. The main difference between the two forums in my view lies primarily in the attitude towards the exchange: competitive debate is for S&P and synergistic discussion is for MR&P. The one's fission, the other's fusion: both can be quite a blast if done correctly. 
This requires effort of mods and members alike and like you said: it's slowly getting on wheels.
Once it's on steam the hard modding can relax somewhat too, but like you implied having two S&Ps would be pointless, so let's make it two different flavors
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4856306 - 10/26/05 06:34 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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you guys have a hard job, I certainly don't envy you guys heh, but you guys are doing well so far, I know that some people here would like to see the forum fail for whatever reason, don't let it fail, if everyone makes the effort, this forum will be great
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4857909 - 10/27/05 12:20 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am really excited about this forum's potential.
Your rules are redundant, and one of 'em's a guideline... not a rule. But I think you've got what you need... PLUS a lot of fat. Which I hope we can at least, discuss, if not cut entirely.
This forum needs a little subjectivity, seems The Creators want it that way, but y'all went overboard, on your first draft.
Let's look at the new rules shall we?
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1) No Flaming. No Trolling. Flaming or spiritual bashing is not tolerated in this section.
Do not provoke others with incendiary or condescending remarks.
The first sentence is great.
The second is not. You don't need it... unless you use it to give some examples... like say, the LIGHTEST bannable flame you can think of, "Stupid"... or something... ya' know?
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2) Be respectful. Please always respect the beliefs and thread guidelines of other members.
Not needed, here's why:
This forum's Mod's have a history of making POOR SUBJECTIVE judgment calls, which cause public drama. and the Mods ONLY seem to take such action when THEIR OWN feelings are hurt... and, on top of THAT, they are a very sensitive bunch.
I do not trust these three particular people to make such a SUBJECTIVE judgment call.
Besides, a good Mod doesn't need this loophole. I think you three can go without.
After all this, PLEASE DON'T ATTEMPT TO MODERATE WHAT WE THINK, OR FEEL.
You simply can't.
Nobody on The Staff has proven otherwise.
How can I trust you to KNOW what I THINK, and Moderate accordingly? I will not.
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3) Mocking others beliefs is not allowed. Making posts or threads that mock in a ridiculing manner will not be tolerated. For skeptic vs believer style debates on spiritual issues, visit the Philosophy and Rationalism board.
This rule is fine, AND it covers the SAME territory as rule #2... and the sentence I'd strike from rule #1. Keep this one, drop the stuff I suggested. It NICELY outlines the proper amount of SUBJECTIVITY this forum wants... without going' Nazi!
Remember, if a debate happens, JUST MOVE THE THREAD, don't blame people for going where a discussion takes 'em.
We're just stoners, talking 'bout mystical stuff, in the middle of the night! Cut us some slack, please.
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4) Be aware of, and use, the ?Report Post? icon (located on the bottom of every post) if you notice a rule being broken. This will notify the moderators of that particular post, please provide a reason for notification.
Great... but is this really an enforceable rule? It seems more like a guideline... unless you guys wish to ban someone for FAILING TO NOTIFY YOU to DO YOUR JOBS.
I'd also strike the PUBLIC Mod bias towards He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, or ANYONE else. It is bad style, guys. A poor way to start a forum.
A LITTLE subjectivity goes a long way. Look at The Pub.
Right now, ALL your rules (minus the one which should be a guideline) are subjective. That is VERY HARD for the public to follow. The new rules need to be specified and shortened.
Oh, and, be sure to follow your OWN rules this time.
As they stand now, they'd be almost impossible to follow, even for YOU MODS... save for the fact you all get to make the subjective decisions, yourself... and therefore can choose to see no error in your own ways. While, hypothetically, permabanning a long time member, for breaking no visible rule.
It ALMOST seems like THAT is the only reason you WROTE the new rules... so you'd have a rulebook which allowed the Mods to CHOOSE who is a SAINT and WHO is a SINNER, even if the public can't make such a distinction out loud, without breaking 3 forum rules, at the SAME TIME! 
redundant... redundant... redundant...
Those new rules give the wrong combination of minds, TOO MUCH POWER.
Consider THIS particular post... my pressing of the Notify Mod button.
I really think you've got the rules you need, and a LOT or redundancy... which only serves you three... and not the community you all hope to build.
A bit more work is required to prevent the drama, which caused this split, from happening again. I think you are heading in the right direction. Keep up the good work.
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I know you think you understand the words I have just said to you but, what you fail to realize is, what you thought I said is not what I actually meant by saying what I said, when I said it.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4857926 - 10/27/05 12:24 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cervantes said:
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1) No Flaming. No Trolling. Flaming or spiritual bashing is not tolerated in this section.
Do not provoke others with incendiary or condescending remarks.
The first sentence is great.
The second is not. You don't need it.
Here's why:
This forum's Mod's have a history of making POOR SUBJECTIVE judgment calls, which cause public drama. and the Mods ONLY seem to take such action when THEIR OWN feelings are hurt... and, on top of THAT, they are a very sensitive bunch.
I do not trust these three particular people to make such a SUBJECTIVE judgment call.
Besides, a good Mod doesn't need this loophole.
Seriously. I find it deeply unsettling to see what kinds of posts certain mods consider to be "anti-spiritual." Apparently, it is unspiritual to wish to live without delusions.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Silversoul]
#4857959 - 10/27/05 12:37 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree... to think Mormons are safer, under the current Moderation's rules, than realists!
I hope it will be fixed.
I really like the idea of this forum, and its potential.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Cervantes]
#4857969 - 10/27/05 12:40 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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This forum should get the official seal of approval from Art Bell.
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Re: The designated talk-about-the-forum thread [Re: Moonshoe]
#4858681 - 10/27/05 09:10 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ thats how i get here its in my favorites You should update your bookmark to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ yea, wtf! i'm not talkin' about the Main Index i'm talkin' about the MAIN.. index. where it lists the most recent 5 posts or so. it's been displayin' the same ones for days now. i think someone needs to fix this problem. i don't care about the main index of the BB showing the amount of new threads/posts.. .but the MAIN index.html of the shroomery should list the recently posted posts... 'cause otherwise, why do i have http://www.shroomery.org/index.html as my main page?  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/?Cat= There is something similar what you regard already built in in the board software.
If you look at the bottom of the main index.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/?Cat=
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View recent messages
Past 24 hours
Past 48 hours
Past 7 days Not if you have to type them in.
I type in
shroomery.org/forums
you type in shroomery.org/forums/
Which is shorter? Oh look theres other forums click me I was looking around and noticed that the bottom of the main index page it says there are no birthdays today. Yet if you click on the calendar link and then on January 23 2004 it shows that it is Grovesk8ters Bday.
Just thought it was courious and perhaps an error.Anno posted how to edit the host file at www.*************.org but the post was promptly deleted by an admin.
I can only remember how to edit the file in XP, perhaps Anno or someone else can help with the other operating systems.
In Windows XP go to C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc and then open notepad. Drag and drop the hosts file into notepad and you should see something like this:
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# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
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# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
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# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host
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Add to the bottom line of text 69.28.174.165 www.shroomery.org and click save.
Access the shroomery by the following link: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/I fixed this, before when I typed in: www.shroomery.org/forums
i would get to the main page where I wasn't logged in... but if I clicked on any link, I would be logged in... quite annoying.
The problem was that /index.php was redirecting to: ubbthreads.php instead of http://www.shroomery.org/forums/
so my browser for some reason went to:
http://shroomery.org/forums/ instead of www.shroomery...
now it's fixedPris you work here
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Ever wonder what that ugly green stuff is? Are you worried about health risks? Identification, fighting off contaminations, etc.... Here is a forum dedicated to any cultivators worst enemy, Contamination.
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