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No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report
    #4805271 - 10/14/05 09:08 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

on 300 mg and some oral cannabis.... just did a neural noise synthesiser set to an alpha meditation.... my brain is....... insane!~ I can't really explain this , it's the speediest thoughtlessest state of ever.... all... it's just.... nuts........ fuuuuuck.

brainwave synchronization really works.... I don't necessarily like this like I'm tweaking out or something but it's kind of cool. I think I need something more relaxing but I'm kind of afraid to mess with the brainwaves much more, but I suppose I will.

Man this is crazy..... it's the speediest headrushiest feeling ever from synching to alpha brainwaves. whoa whoa howa howa howa howa howa mang.

yeah.

.. to be continued.

edit post trip report:
this was definitely out there. I started off having some cannabis tea... then I decided to try 150 mg of DXM. That was fine, I started watching Beavis and Butthead and their laughing was really really weird to hear...... then I stopped feeling so high and decided I'd take another 150 mg...... so then things were getting pretty trippy... and I decided, well, you know what, let's try this brainwave synchronizer program I have.

So I sat down and put on this theta meditation program, and set it to a 5 minute scale. So it ramped down into the theta brainwaves very quickly, and as it did so my brain was clearly going along for the ride... I started to "lock" into the tones by noticing the patterns they are emitting...... and then all of a sudden they started speeding up so fast while my consciousness was becoming markedly altered..... I wasn't sure what to make of this, I thought at the time I must be perceiving things differently than they really are, but in fact I think this is what it does when it reaches the end of the program, it goes up rapidly then gradually back down, etc, repeat.

So after a while of this I turned it off, and I felt different to say the least. I thought, well let's try the alpha program. So I did the alpha program, and upon cessation I had never felt so absolutely WIRED with frantic amounts of energy in my life.

So I was clearly definitely tripping now and I did the theta program one more time. And this is when I hit a truly remarkable state of mind> The only thing I can really compare it to is the first 2 days I went to Yoga practice.... a state of constant marvel at just how OUT THERE your head is.... a feeling of complete nothingness, timelessness.... this tripped me out so bad, it was amazing.

So I started to think of important spirtual figures in my life. My Tai Chi instructor, this Buddhnist monk I've met briefly [i later sent her an email, which i may regret having done], my Yoga instructor, etc.

Now.... I TRUELY FELT ENLIGHTENED. I felt like that concept of "God" was right, that there was a "way" that there is a "spirituality" to existence....... I'd just go ".............. OOOOOOOOh" it was like, sexual, it was like sexual intercourse with the reality that I have just discovered is quite indeed very illusionary. I felt like Donnie Darko right before he dies, having mastered his universe. I felt like all these people I met, all the things I've read, heard, the songs I've listened to... were all custom tailored to get ME to WAKE UP out of this DREAM.... to ENLIGHTEN ME, and having expierneced this I would be forever changed.

I felt like there was not a single thing keeping me from slipping away forever into nirvana. I was still "attached" to reality per se, but the interactions were on such a different level as to make any single experience truely novel and amazing from a clearish and childlike wonder-perspective.

It was incredible. And it lasted. And Lasted. And lasted. It lasted for hours on end as the DXM started to take me to the 2nd plateau.

I started thinking "you know what, I might not come back down... I might go crazy or I might die... but even if I go "crazy" at least I TRUELY know how things work, and I'm more in tune than the sane people" so I took a magic marker, and I wrote on a piece of paper something like "if I die, it wasn't intentional. I'm very happy and I feel enlightened. I love you all." but I knew I probably wasn't going to die.

My attachment to this world came back as I thought "so I'm enlightened, but I can't leave this world, I don't know if I'm ready and I need to help people." and then I started getting trapped in Buddhist dogmas ... I started chanting Amitabha..... (and I think it may have benifited me! becuase it like translated into the Chinese or Japanese sounding way of saying it WHILE i was still saying it in English... and at the same time "om mani padme hung" was also going off....... but I realized that, these things I was doing were out of fear of the unknown... I was already experientally communing with "the dao" or whatever it is that you call it, and that there wasn't particularly a need to lessen my tripping by trying to describe it with religious activities I've read and adopted in the back of my head.

Nonetheless, I prayed. I prayed to Buddha, Allah, Jesus, God, the way, the dao.... "whatever it is i'm trying to pray to" .... but I'm not sure exactly about what. I gave thanks. I tried to take refuge in the Buddha, the Dharma, the Sangha.... but.... it also kind of lead to confusion, but at the same time it made me feel a little more peaceful.

I eventually became CERTAIN that I was sharing minds with this Buddhist monk... and so I went and I sent her an email.. it was rather asthetic pleasing in terms of simple word structure and flow... it basically said "I used this brainwave program and I truely feel..." then there were like ramblings of me trying to explain what I felt, which I concluded was "nothing. I feel nothing. But I'm still here. I wonder if I'm even alive, but I surely must be. This is amazing and I truely feel enlightened right now. I really need formal meditational training." then I basically apologized if it sounded weird...... and now I'm afraid to check my email.

But while I was writing it I mentioned that it felt like I was communicating with her, and I started auto-typing "yes" as if she were answering the question.

I then began to contemplate how my state of mind EXACTLY mirrored how "alive" my Yoga instructor seems to be, right down to the way I made weird noises and marveled at the general "outness" of my experience...... and all of a sudden it felt like her energy came into me and she possessed me.... she posessed the LEFT HALF OF ME....... while I was in the right.... and it was weird because it felt really cool but it also threw my vision and typing out of whack and made me jittery (probably just the DXM) ..... so......

it was just rather amazing like we communed spirit to spirit.... and like, it made me realize that she feels the way I felt, to some extent, all the time. It's rather mind blowing if true... but just the way .. the EXACT WAY I talked like her in response to the power I felt.... she must be that way.

I went into an asana which seemed appropriate..... I again attempted to give thanks to whatever exactly it was that was giving me this experience... and I think I asked for guidance in my regular life.

I then started to feel like perhaps the right half of me had become my tai chi instructor, but the presence was much more subtle than the presence of the yoga teacher.

So yeah. I was tripping balls. I tried to call my friend, the phone rang, then it garbled out into weird ass sounds like TIME HAD STOOD STILL and communication between others was not possible right now, or my ears had tuned into a different "frequency" and so could not understand telephones.

I tried calling again later and eventually we talked. I'd forget what he was saying but when I spoke to him I'd always answer on topic with exactly what it was he was talking about anyway, the communication was very pure, very free flowing, very therapeutic...... I'd even sometimes go out on a limb and say things that I thought he wouldn't at all understand, but he'd understand perfectly. It was very nice and comforting..

Then I started to get visual hallucinations, not too strong but definitely OEV, the room took on weird hallucinagenic colorful shapes.... lots of spots were everywhere, kind of "strobing" in and out if you will. I took a few hits to ease some nausea that was coming in and went to bed.

It was quite an experience.
umm oh yeah one last neat thing, I could see my room the exact way it was with my eyes closed... just things were a little darker, and incidentally when I came back to shroomery someone else was on DXM and he made a post about having the same experience. That was cool and trippy.

this is a good teaching drug, but it's also kind of bad for your body and leaves you feeling kind of weird.


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We meditate upon that supreme light , the source of all creation, may it illumine our intellects and bring us eternal life.


Edited by leery11 (10/15/05 10:11 AM)


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4805310 - 10/14/05 09:17 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4805331 - 10/14/05 09:20 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

DXM and cannabis are a good combo indeed!


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: SourceLimit]
    #4805367 - 10/14/05 09:28 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I just had a supremely enlightening experience with the brainwave synchronizer..... words cannot describe it man i'm reeling in a euphoric sea of ecstatic nothingness like zazaen or something i spelled that rong but oh well i'm autotoyping.... i think this may be bthe beginning of something big because I think I feel a connection to God.... I FINALLY THINK I FEEL A CONNECTION TO GOD... to the dao... it's quite wonderfully peaceful really... i think i had soul to soul contact with my yoga instructor and my tai chi instructor and and .......... ad welll not my yoga instructor but i think i am now..... its 'like i'm not in my body but i'm here typing this and it's quite extaordinary but sometimes .... ii miss the words and spell themw rong... ijust feel so elingithened ..e eeeeenlightened..... it's beautiful... i wish my love to all you memmbers of the shoroomery who read this.

i hope

this is the beginning of a beautiful life for all.. this is indescribable bliss .



i think i am in a jinjihana...

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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4805409 - 10/14/05 09:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

lol now thats speed typing.
thanks for the well wishes. may have to try out some dxm myself very soon
sounds tempting altho i promised myself id steer clear of chemicals (save lsd)


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4805411 - 10/14/05 09:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

i just called my friend and there was complete gibberish it feels like time has frozen solid.... what has happened to me? am i dead? I must be. for i am alive.

it is..... really fucking out there man... i dont' know wha tis happening......... shit dude ummm just if anyone is out there that is alive, please post because i tried to call my friend and it was complete gibberish.......... so....... yeahhhhh post please? either way it's good I guess? I need.... to stay alive though because I don't have the dharma or anything so I need to learn, and stay here, to learn.


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4805469 - 10/14/05 09:42 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

posting now. you are still amongst our carbon based species


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4805482 - 10/14/05 09:44 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

:eek: :eek: :eek: :thumbup: :smile: :cool:


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: BobJizze]
    #4805567 - 10/14/05 09:56 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i cannot

explain this trip guys. ..... I think I've found my soulmate it feels like.... I've merged with my yoga instructor...... it's fucking weird..... there's like a "left" and a "right" a ying and a yang.... and she's .... one of those... and i'm the other.... and we're both sitting here typing this laughing like fucking crazy.

i am talking like donnie darko when he realizes his universe is about to come to an end.

i sent an email to a buddhist nun and i told her i needed meditational training, that i think i have just transcended something... this is fucking crazyyzyzyzyyzyzyzyzyzyzyzyzyzzy man.

weird.

I honestly hope I come back down from this trip! It's insane! But..... I hope it helps me when I come down. Holy shit my brain is just ........... i dont' know. i'm fricking hyper as hell. i need to move,

bye


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4805918 - 10/14/05 11:12 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

this is a deeply profound drug, you can forget the totality of what your friend is talking about the phone, yet be able to answer him all the same.... you can speak completely uncertain of what you're saying and yet have it be PERFECTLY understood.

it's all about faith in movement.

Brainwave Generators + DXM = wow. I'm still pretty far out. There was like a little spotter layer of halluciantions on my wall.

I sat down to meditate upon the chakras and saw my astral arms..... could see MY ROOM WITH MY EYES CLOSED and when i opened my eyes i confirmed that they both looked the same.

that theta meditation opened my third eye I think.......

I dunno... I was crazy tripping, speedy dots floating in and out, etc, etc.... i guess this is my first psychedelic experience. I see why people say they change your life now.


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4808253 - 10/15/05 03:43 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

....I think that was allot of words....

I mean....thats 3 pages of text in a word processer in your first post alone. People open up posts that say No words, expecting a single or no word answer that is somehow sufficiant. What you have done is ....its just wrong.  :tongue2:


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: SourceLimit]
    #4821024 - 10/18/05 01:38 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

no words, as in words don't really do anything I felt justice.

I'm not sure exactly what lead me to write "No words" as the topic, but it was the best thing I could think of to describe what I was feeling.

anyway, you can't make a post called "No words" and have no words in it, that would mess up the tao of things.


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4822256 - 10/18/05 06:28 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Example of "noword" answer :    GOD?

:smile: You took it more seriousely then I thought it would be taken. Just joking.


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: SourceLimit]
    #4823865 - 10/19/05 03:35 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I find it funny you editted your post-trip analysis at 11:11 AM, the mystical time!

I will definitely have to try the brainwave synchronizer thing. I have a couple of those programs, but I don't have a headphone plugin in my speaker system! Egads!

Congratulations on having your first psychedelic experience. I'm still floored at the fact you can have such a strong trip from 300 mg, but if it works for you then that's great.

DXM does have sort of a dirty feel to it afterwards, and it's not particularly good for the body, but if you span your use out very conservatively and only trip on occasion it will not have any harm on your body. Plus, if you only trip on occasion, the powerful experiences will happen each time. If you use it too often you will grow tolerant faster.

One thing that I have done, and it is a good idea, is take a supplement of Milk Thistle the day of and the day after using DXM. Milk Thistle strengthens the liver and is an antioxidant, so whatever minor damage DXM does to the liver from one use would be liquidated by the Milk Thistle. Also, the supplement 5-htp helps to regulate serotonin in your brain, so it can be good to use after tripping to make up for a temporary loss of serotonin afterwards.

I have had that happen where you see your room through your eyes, it's pretty far out. I don't believe I'm actually seeing my room, though. I haven't had this phenomena happen for awhile though. I can't have psychedelic experiences anymore on DXM. Even on 1000 mg or more all I have is confusion, so all I really feel is a high and have blurred vision. Might as well drink booze, hehe! So treasure the psychedelia while you have it and don't overuse like I have in the past. Moderation is the single most important thing in DXM use. Set a limit for yourself on how often you use it, and set a limit for how much you will ever take. For me, I set a limit of 1000 mg, but ended up surpassing it because I stopped caring, but that wasn't really a big deal. It was using it too often that got me.

Anyway, I'm glad you had a great trip. I'll stop blabbering now.


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: matchbook]
    #4826278 - 10/19/05 04:40 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SourceLimit said:
Example of "noword" answer :    GOD?

:smile: You took it more seriousely then I thought it would be taken. Just joking.


oh i knew you were joking, i should have used an emoticon i guess, i was joking too.
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I find it funny you editted your post-trip analysis at 11:11 AM, the mystical time!



WHOA! hmmm. I didn't know that.

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I will definitely have to try the brainwave synchronizer thing.  I have a couple of those programs, but I don't have a headphone plugin in my speaker system!  Egads! 


it's okay, i didn't use headphones, but it had files that were okay for non-headphone use, and some for headphone use, so i guess that may make a difference. The difference between listening to these files sober verses on DXM is just remarkable.

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Congratulations on having your first psychedelic experience.  I'm still floored at the fact you can have such a strong trip from 300 mg, but if it works for you then that's great.


yeah dude, it's all about that brainwave machine I guess. My other 300 mg "trip" was just a little bit like this.

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I don't believe I'm actually seeing my room, though.


Well I debated this while high, and I mean, either 2 things are happening.
1) the subconscious stores billions of trivial details, making it possible to exactly 100% relive experiences, etc... thus the subconscious painted the room how I last saw it with eyes open.
2) Even with eyes closed, you can still detect subtle differences in light, the brain can form a picture of your surroundings with this if you tune in to the right frequencies.

or maybe its a mixture of both, you kind of remember what was in the room, and that gets filled in in accordance with the subtleties of light that you detect... who knows. I've done this sober (but not NEARLY as detailed) so I know something is real about it.

The way the details got more and more "vivid" the more I focused on the shapes I was seeing leads me to believe that you can indeed see your surroundings with your eyes closed as a result of intense concentration [or being intensely high!] but I'm not sure that you could get up and walk around and still see accurately... that guy Criss Angel says he can. As for the arms well, those were definitely generated by my mind, as my mind always knows where my arms are.



anyway thanks for the post. I'm kind of puzzled about psychedelics, because they can obviously take me MUCH further out than this, and that would be great, but at the same time, it would outshadow anything I could ever do during sober meditation.... so I don't know.


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Om bhur bhuvaha swaha tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi, dhiyo yonah prachodyat.
We meditate upon that supreme light , the source of all creation, may it illumine our intellects and bring us eternal life.


Edited by leery11 (10/19/05 04:41 PM)


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Re: No Words!!!!!!!! DXM Live Trip Report [Re: leery11]
    #4828390 - 10/20/05 02:51 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps a combination of sober meditation and sometimes psychedelic meditation would give you the widest spectrum.

Well, when I take DXM, after I go to bed sometimes I wake up during the night and close my eyes again and then I see my room in front of my eyes. Usually it takes me a few seconds to realize I'm seeing a hallucination. As soon as I consciously realize this, it disappears. Not sure why that is. Anyway. I've had this happen while my head is completely under the covers, yet I see my room beyond the covers. So that's why I don't think I'm actually seeing a real-time view of my room. But I have no idea what the mind is capable of. I've had lucid dreaming experiences where I start to feel myself exit my physical body while I remain conscious, and I can step out of it and walk around my room. Usually it turns into a regular lucid dream after that. But it's possible the mind is able to perceive things outside itself. I don't know.


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