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chakra problems
#4828234 - 10/20/05 04:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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one time a couple of years ago at a drum n bass gig (Bad Company)I took some acid. I had a good time but had an uncomfortable sensation in my chest. It was a nervous type feeling or just an uncomfortable feeling that I wanted to go away. But anyways, I am now more aware of my chakras and at times feel the uncomfortable sensations in the other chakras and often in the heart area while on pot or e. I think its a blockage? If it is to do with chakras then do all these stem from my thoughts, or, my 3rd eye chakra. Because you can undo the feeling by releasing control and the control is held in thoughts. Releasing control lets love flow thru and the feeling is gone. But then why do I get it again. Negative thought patterns to do with issues in the chakras? or something else? Maybe a rut in the mind that I always go back to. But do you go back for a reason. Is there something that needs to be healed? Or do I need to train my mind to not go back there?
hmmm...any ideas??
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Re: chakra problems [Re: voooom]
#4828542 - 10/20/05 08:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think its a blockage?
Do laxatives work on chakras? Just curious...
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Re: chakra problems [Re: Diploid]
#4828972 - 10/20/05 12:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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do laxatives work on stuffed noses?
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Re: chakra problems [Re: voooom]
#4829243 - 10/20/05 02:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.swamij.com/index-yoga-meditation-kundalini.htm
This is a great site!
Also read Anodea Judith's "Chakra Balancing."
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Re: chakra problems [Re: voooom]
#4829913 - 10/20/05 04:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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body sensation contains evidence of something, it may be healthful or unheathful, but you might just sense the character of energy fluctuations and wonder.
with direct chakkra work, visualization can be skipped completely, just sense the energy that is there naturally - especially if it hurts, send the mind into it and breathe through the position finding what is there naturally.
Going into the knots does all the required unravelling for the consciousness. Some increase of blood flow will also occur, which may or may not help heal what may or may not be there as an illness.
most of the problems resolve as sore muscles or gas or bowel irritation, but the meditation is not diagnostic or visionary, it is refuge and foundation. If vision happens you are supposed to distrust it and just carry on. let it be what it is, and review that maybe later ..., it is really not important to the chakkra work.
otehrwise, panic attacks caused by intestinal gas seemingly rising in the chest have lead to countless heart failures, the main thing is to learn to relax.
if things are lumpy however, get everything checked; also if blood is showing up wher it shouldn't etc. but this sounds like a nervous fear, and a simpler approach and a relaxed approach is best.
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Re: chakra problems [Re: voooom]
#4830181 - 10/20/05 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I suggest that you consider the physical before you consider the metaphysical. Check your blood pressure the next time you use cannabis, and especially when you use MDMA (which can really kick that BP up).
During one Ecstasy Experience with my Lady, I thought that sex was arousing the Kundalini. Then my genitals Really began to burn! Then she felt it! As it turned out, the cinnamon-peppermint candy we had in our mouths got transferred to her yoni and then to my lingam. Yeeoww!....It wasn't Kundalini rising. Doh! Some of us really just miss the obvious a lot, and then look for the mysterious. Ya gotta laugh at yourself sometimes.
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yeah ok - I don't think laxatives will work but will have a read up on that site.
Will also try to experience it without judgement.
It is nervous related/fear related but its like if I let go of the control I'm not sure what will happen, which of course is a petty fear. If the energy is trying to move up then the next step would be the expression of the energy through the throat chakra. But if that expression is saddness then its not always easy to express. If the expression is overwhelming joy and happiness (which I want to express) its also hard to express with people that are in self-indulged misery. But then I too am playing that drama and by realeasing the control and shining my light on everyone I am getting out of the drama and maybe even liberating others to do the same. Its funny - how the answers or the next step are always inside, but talking about it on here has made me find it. The answer is acceptance of myself despite what others may think and the stepping into of my own power and letting it shine. Cheers all!!
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Penetrate this secret
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Re: chakra problems [Re: Deviate]
#4830252 - 10/20/05 05:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Only for s**t-heads.
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Quote:
redgreenvines said:
otehrwise, panic attacks caused by intestinal gas seemingly rising in the chest have lead to countless heart failures, the main thing is to learn to relax.
can you elaborate? I have this recurring problem near my "heart" but I think it's just my shoulder muscles, anyway somehow today I did pretty much exactly what you described, I brought intestinal gas up to that area. I don't recally how, but I was breathing and trying to mindfully get this nasty kind of feeling OUT of that area..... and then my stomach kind of started acting up and gas went up to the area.... it was like I was burping, except I wasn't burping, I was just "half burping" up to that spot and then stopping.
It was odd. I think its respiratory more so than heart or anything, as I seem to have some congestion.
and drugs can DEFINITELY imbalance your chakras, stop smoking pot maybe. If you have to have pot, eat it orally...... whenever I toke up about 2 days later I have energy imbalances, if not immediately upon getting high. The marijuana high itself seems really beneficial for energy work though, but the damaging effects of smoke seem to negate such a thing, which is why I said to try oral consumption.
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Re: chakra problems [Re: leery11]
#4832587 - 10/21/05 01:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the drugs and alcohol screw up everything with timing, including determination of what comes before what.
things get prolonged (fading out is slower), so you can arbitrarily run backwards and forwards within the collected events of a second and really not determine what is before what or what causes what.
this is temporal and cerebral even when dealing with body senses. it is not really chakkras.
but to elaborate on confused meanings from chest and bowels. diet is a habit that you can spend a lot of time adjusting to correct. gas, & worry and tension create gas too - make stomache go acidic etc.
gas presses on organs.
people often confuse pressure with illness especially if they are not used to stretching and yoga etc. to release tension, or going to the can or for a walk to release gas.
old farts are worse about this.
lots of people (especially old farts) who are not having a heart attack begin with, think they are having one when they have gas, then they get fightened very fast, then they have a heart attack and many die on the spot - it's ludicrous!
they are just out of synch. this is more about the sense of timing, and the physics of diet, habit, and balloons than about the metaphysics of chakkras, and being drugged to the point of damaging psychic integrity.
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this morning with some salvia:
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Body sense of my head shape multiplied in space, body sense of shoulders multiplied in space, body sense of knees multiplied in space. Each plexus was a chakkra, or chakkra like roseation in space, or a coronation of narrow petals - subtley & transparently red with yellow brights and green darks. The petals were like strips with smoothly folded edges. Anything that was a center of attention had this chakkra like nature/vision/sensation (synaethesia). Briefly It was like living in a hologram.
what made this akin to chakkras rather than just a visualization of roseations in space, was that there was a distinct physical-seeming sensation or being present complexed with each chakkra being experienced.
The sense of being present within the centers of each and within the radiance of each was balanced by the holographic pervasiveness of the experience during the 4 minute session as a whole, so that any center was also every other center.
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Beautiful.
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Re: chakra like experience [Re: dorkus]
#4948799 - 11/17/05 10:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You were at a drum n bass party.. You were porbably feeling the lack of love in the room.. Thats why I don't go to drum n bass partys anymore..
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Diploid: "do laxatives work on stuffed noses?" markos : "Only for shit-heads. "
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