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 New Rules for the Philosophy & Spirituality forum: your help needed! 
#4824273 - 10/19/05 08:46 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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We still need input on the rules for the new Philosophy & Spirituality forum.
Our general idea is to make the forum rules similar to the rules of PA&L:
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1) NO FLAMING ...if you can't state your case or refute someone elses case without calling them "stupid" or an "idiot"..etc...Then don't bother posting here. This forum is for intelligent debate, not to try to belittle someone that doesn't think like you. THIS WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCED ... If you have been warned already, you will receive a temporary ban, if you continue to flame you will be banned permanently...choose your words wisely or suffer the consequences.
2) Although not always possible, when quoting a source please provide a link.
That's it..Basically I am looking to create a more tolerant atmosphere in here...it's not too much to ask. There are many different views and beliefs represented in this forum, more so than any other (with the possible exception of the S & P forum) and we need to be able to communicate our points of view clearly without resorting to petty name calling. We are better than that.
We try to create rules so that mods can act consequent and as objective as possible.
You can say pretty much anything you want as a spiritual or philosophical idea -- you can even espouse ideas most people would find ludicrous or repugnant. What you can't do is attack the person making the ludicrous or repugnant statements. You can bring to bear all your rhetorical skills and articulate arguments in an attempt to expose the idea under discussion as ludicrous, repugnant or whatever -- as a matter of fact you are encouraged to do so -- but the acceptable method is to direct all your weaponry at the idea being presented, not at the one presenting the idea.
What are your ideas on the new rules? Are we missing something? Give us some input!
Thanks!
Edited by Phred (10/29/05 05:44 PM)
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Annom]
#4824556 - 10/19/05 10:08 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think flaming should be allowed, but I'm an asshole.
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Annom]
#4825191 - 10/19/05 12:54 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Welcome to the Philosophy forum!
This is the forum for the intellectual pursuits of truth ? be it The Truth or a truth, or varying degrees of truth. This forum is to serve as proving grounds for any philosophical idea you wish to put forth into the test of scrutiny, under the knife of logic, and in the light of objectivity.
You are permitted to submit anything you wish as a philosophical idea or concept ? you can even espouse ideas most people would find ludicrous or repugnant. What you can?t do is attack the person making the ludicrous or repugnant statements. You can bring to bear all your rhetorical skills and articulate arguments in an attempt to expose the idea under discussion as ludicrous, repugnant or whatever ? as a matter of fact you are encouraged to do so ? but the acceptable method is to direct all your weaponry at the idea being presented, not at the one presenting the idea.
Most important of all:
Have fun, learn infinitely, and may you the Truth be with you.
And perhaps it would suffice to add a disclaimer at the bottom:
Warning:
This forum is not recommended for those with: emotional insecurity/instability/sensitivity, shortness of breath, high blood pressure, pregnancy, mental illnesses, or those whose height is shorter than 4 feet and 12 inches.
If, by any chance, you feel yourself wounded in the crossfire of philosophical argument, it would be best to retaliate to the SM&P forum, wherein you will find all the ego-boosting you need to heal yourself again.
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
#4825244 - 10/19/05 01:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Veritas]
#4825302 - 10/19/05 01:16 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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"You must be at least this tall to ride on Air Force One."
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Veritas]
#4825352 - 10/19/05 01:26 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fluffy Bunnies? Flowers? Butterflys? (What!? No Unicorns?) Are you mocking this forum? 
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Swami]
#4825366 - 10/19/05 01:29 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not THIS forum! 
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Veritas]
#4825404 - 10/19/05 01:38 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well then, exactly which one IS the Fluffy Bunny forum? 
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Swami]
#4825411 - 10/19/05 01:40 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here's a hint: Fluffy Bunnies are easily hurt & mistake debate/disagreement for vicious attack on their fluffy selves.
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Annom]
#4826058 - 10/19/05 03:46 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Really, if you just added a disclaimer rule (and keep the FIVE Mod format), you could merge the two forums back together again... perhaps you could give the Fluffy bunnies a sub-forum too.
I'd remind people to use the NOTIFY MODERATOR button, when shit happens.
Then when bunnies are in peril, because they are offended, a Mod can quickly move the thread in questiuon into the bunny pen sub-forum.
But really, smart use of disclaimers would eliminate the need for a split community, and it would eliminate the need for a sub-forum.
Disclaimers would also make BANS more OBJECTIVE.
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I know you think you understand the words I have just said to you but, what you fail to realize is, what you thought I said is not what I actually meant by saying what I said, when I said it.
Edited by Cervantes (10/19/05 03:54 PM)
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Cervantes]
#4826297 - 10/19/05 04:44 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why not let the Bunnies just cry sometimes and everybody else deal with it ?
If the so called bunnies have to deal with " attacks " then why don't the logic heads just let it be ?
When someone starts to have hurt feelings why the need to needled the person to death ? Instead of 5 people jumping at the chance to ridicule the " weaker " people why not adjust your " smarter and superior more mature " minds to the person and help them out ?
The problem is not the " bunnies " It is the people who called them " Bunnies" in the first place.........Which by the way is very very far from a MATURE mindset...........Kinda childesh if you ask me. Why not call them Niggers, Whops, Camel Jockeys or Faggets ?
I think all this bullshit would be no biggie if all the stout minded people just gave some other people a break from time to time.
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Fucknuckle]
#4826342 - 10/19/05 04:55 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why not call them Niggers, Whops, Camel Jockeys or Faggets?
Because being a Bunny is a CHOICE. When someone believes that others can "crush" their spirituality through questioning/attacking the ideas they express, they portray themself as a helpless victim: a bunny preyed upon by vicious wolves.
Alternatively, when someone realizes that NO ONE has the power to crush their spirituality unless they GIVE IT TO THEM, they do not see themselves as prey or predator. If they have a reaction to what someone says, they take responsibility for that reaction. It's called emotional maturity.
IMO "Bunny" is just cutesy shorthand for "emotionally immature and petty."
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Veritas]
#4826640 - 10/19/05 06:14 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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OK what ever you say................sticks and stones is all you are but what am I ? Same thing................
And who is anyone to decided how anyone is inside ?
And who is anyone top place a label anyone ?
And who is the master of the " Idea " of what maturity is ?
And who makes " maturity " the only right way to be ?
As I have already said..........It would be very easy to lable your statements as very imature also.
Some of you just don't get it and I think these people are the real problem.
Your ask the " weaker " people to conform. I read so many posts about the " weaker " people. And most of them are filled with contemp and racist attitudes.
I think emotional waves are perfectly normal. Every great spiritual person I have studied has gave into their emotions and many have "lost it"..............from time to time.
We are human beings filled with emotions.........To say that giving in to them is not mature is fucking stupid.
That is just like in high school.......Men never cry, blah blah blah
If you think maturity is complete control of your spiritual, emotional beliefes....... WAKE UP people
Growth comes from questioning yourself, allowing weakness to show itself, emotional exposure is an absolute for growth.
It is just silly to think you have it under control. Your very response says you bothered by my post. Get over it.
I think a mature person allows the emotions of another to have room in a conversation. An ADULT allows his child to cry, whine or throw a fit. An adult is mature enough to not call his kid a cry baby, pussy, punk or a weak little bunnie. There are no lables for the vocabulary of a " MATURE" person.
So I think you have it wrong. You and many like you would rather just throw the " Weaker " people to the wolves instead of sheltering them. It is better they were to die then the " Mature thinkers " to guide them or allow them space...........Nice of them isn't it
In fact we now have a entire other forum for those weak ass little bunnies...............Fucking stupid
I think You should all be ashamed of yourselves
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 Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Fucknuckle]
#4826729 - 10/19/05 06:41 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fucknuckle, this isn't therapy... it's philosophy.
Wait a minute, you just gave me an idea. Let's have a THERAPY forum, where mods are PAID to make you feel good about believing that a Flying Spaghetti Monster is controlling us with invisible meatballs. What a brilliant idea, Fucknuckle. Really, I think it has great money-making potential. You better hurry on this one before I corner the market with www.FuzzyBunnyFeelGoodTime.com
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Sclorch]
#4826740 - 10/19/05 06:48 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your post is right up the ally.................
You have missed the point............Competely. I am talking about giving room not changing the format. Grow up
No point in saying anything further you make it perfecly clear that there is gonna be ZERO respect for another persons feelings. Lets just dance around the rules and contuine the grade school shit 
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Fucknuckle]
#4826767 - 10/19/05 06:56 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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this is exactly why a split was needed. to seperate those who don't care about others feelings from those that do. neither way is good/bad. it's just the way people are. you are trying to force people to conform to your way of thinking as much as they are trying to force you (and others) to conform to theirs.
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: psychomime]
#4826783 - 10/19/05 07:03 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I know and I agree............
The split was a good thing and necessary
Only I would like all the racist and derogatory comments to stop. Coming from all these so called " mature " people it is keeping the level of respect quite low.
There is a good rule for this Forum.......... No bashing the spirtuality forum or the posters in it.
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Fucknuckle]
#4826879 - 10/19/05 07:28 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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AKA, NO FLAMING.
Right?
We already have that.
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I know you think you understand the words I have just said to you but, what you fail to realize is, what you thought I said is not what I actually meant by saying what I said, when I said it.
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Cervantes]
#4826899 - 10/19/05 07:32 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cervantes said:
AKA, NO FLAMING.
Right?
We already have that.
Yeah we do so why are the Mod's allowing ALL THIS FLAMING OF AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE 
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Re: New Rules for the Philosophy forum: your help needed! [Re: Fucknuckle]
#4826995 - 10/19/05 07:53 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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The problem is not the " bunnies " It is the people who called them " Bunnies" in the first place
Let me rephrase that for you:
"The problem is not the "bunnies", it is the people who did not accept their beliefs at face value, and engaged in debate with them, in the first place."
Although, this is still incorrect, so allow me to rephrase once more:
"The problem is the "bunnies'" emotional insecurity which caused them to behave accordingly when thier beliefs were under scrutiny."
Is the latter, an example of maturity and well-developed emotional strength? No - and to say otherwise is to kid yourself.
Veritas' point, which you seem to have overlooked, can be nicely summed up by Eleanor Roosevelt's quote:
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
And how you tried to intimate a connection between "fluffy bunnies" to those racist, derogatory words you listed: nigger, whop, camel jocky, etc...
Is really, really scraping the bottom of the barrel, and is just downright ridiculous.
And then you have the nerve to say:
I would like all the racist and derogatory comments to stop.
Thus spake Fucknuckle.
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