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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3557920 - 12/29/04 03:39 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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it simply isn't worth it even if you succeed.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3560501 - 12/30/04 06:02 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Dried mushrooms are illegal in the Netherlands. However, some towns "tolerate" the sale of dried mushrooms. Yes, it's the well-known Dutch policy of tolerance. It's still exceptional though. BTW, the real reason behind this is that the Dutch government doesn't want Holland to become a "shroom country". You see, they are already the most important weed - and XTC-suppliers... Personally I wouldn't take the risk of taking them on an airplane. I don't know about the penalties in the US (exactly), but I've understood they're often harsh. So is it really worth it? And why not take them in Europe - that is, if you only wanna know what the taste and experience is like.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: ]
#3560509 - 12/30/04 06:07 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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there is this chemical that will suck the moisture out of of the shrooms, i cant remember what its called wrestler_az would know, but it works insanely fast.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Clear_Eyes]
#3560631 - 12/30/04 07:38 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Are you talking about something other than a desiccant like Silica Gel or DampRid? Because they only work well for fully drying shrooms that are mostly dry already.
It was a pain in the ass but I talked to a friend of mine who I know has been transporting large quantities of drugs for the past five or so years. I dunno if he still does, but I asked him about commercial airplanes and he said that they're relatively safe for carrying less than a half kilo of a substance. He reccommended swallowing it if you want to 100% guarantee that you'll be absolutely safe. I told him that my friend probably wouldn't go for that. He said the safest way is to hold it on your person. He seemed pretty sure about what he said but it didn't help cuz alot of people here seemed against it....
...so my question is, for those of you that have said it's a bad idea without giving any reason whatsoever, do any of you have any idea what you're talking about? If you do, could you please justify your position with facts and/or reasonable speculation and/or experience? Because, from my personal experience, it would seem that it's MUCH more dangerous to grow mushrooms, let alone any significant amount of them, than to cary a half ounce through an airport.
Since I myself did grow them for a long period, I would be doing my friend a disservice by telling him not to try taking them back from Paris unless I could give him a reason that it's more dangerous than growing, for example. So I'm really not sure what to do. And on a side note, the penalties for GROWING mushrooms are much more severe than the posession of them.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3560847 - 12/30/04 10:09 AM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I've been through the airport and I doubt your friend did that transported during times after 911. You couldn't get away with to damn much. Unless you swallow it. But who the hells wants to do that? And if a few, or all, pop...well have fun....
The penalties for growing personal amounts of mushrooms is MUCH less severe then SMUGGLING, which is what were talking here, not possesion. If he wants a few ounces, you can boil up some BRF/verm, order a spore syringe..it would only take 4 cakes to get you well over an ounce. Do you know how hard it is to get a warrent for your house? Much harder then searching someone at the airport.
Don't think I'm not all about being sneaky...I recently flew to arizona..snuck a few bones on the plane and mailed myself some mushrooms and bud to last me....smuggling drugs into the country is different from state to state though.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: scatmanrav]
#3564756 - 12/31/04 09:54 AM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Ok, again, have you ever been BODILY searched at the airport without a drug dog signaling you out? Or have you ever seen it happen to another person? I mean if you really have, please say where it was, what country's customs, etc. What were the circumstances it happened under? I've never experienced that or seen it happen in the dozens of times I've flown int'l since 9/11. All I've seen more than once is the luggage of an Arab(s) being searched while they wait in line to check their bags and pick up boarding passes.
Holding a small amount of a substance on a plane is not smuggling unless you meet certain weight requirements. And they're not small either. Otherwise it's just posession, as far as coming INTO the US is concerned. I don't believe that law has been changed recently although I'm not sure of it. Also, I didn't know that large scale manufacture of Schedule 1 narcotics with intent to distribute held smaller penalties that smuggling small amounts into the US. Do you have a link to that info, because I'm curious?
It's difficult to cultivate CYANS. I've tried myself a number of times, with very nominal success. Certainly nowhere even CLOSE to several ounces dry. Plus, it can take months to do, not something you go whip up a batch of in the kitchen on a Thursday afternoon (I wish).
Besides, I'm not talking about carrying ounces of dry mushrooms on a plane anyway. There is a distinction to be made. THAT I would avoid because you have nowhere to keep it. Do they even frisk you at the airport if you don't go off in the metal detector?? I've never seen that before. Has anybody here ever gotten caught at an airport carrying something? If so, how did you get nabbed?
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3575382 - 01/03/05 03:24 PM (4 years, 6 days ago) |
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first off i would be very skeptical that a drug dog would be trained to pick mushrooms out of a crowd simply becuase i am pretty sure there is not a distinguishing smell to an active mushroom, this would cause the dog to chase down some guy with portabelos in his sandwich. going on this premis, i not too long ago used this method to transport a half ounce of dried mushrooms from washington state to mine. i went to a grocery store and bought some shittakis, cooked them up for dinner. then on the day of my flight repackaged my cyans into the shittaki container and put them in my bag. made it through the xray fine. at the gate i got the second search (as i always do, damn this hair) the guy took them out, looked at them was satisfied and put them back in my bag. simple as that. although internationally you would have to declare them, which could get iffy if you choose not to and you are found out. as they would be more suspicious of them and be less likely to disregard them as legal mushrooms
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: sander]
#3578546 - 01/04/05 07:55 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Good point. I think we've decided to go with hiding them on his person, undeclared. That way, even in the event of a bag search or so far as a clothes search/pat down he's gonna be fine. They'd have to literally strip him down completely naked to find anything. I don't see how anything could go wrong. Is there anything I haven't considered here??
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3578885 - 01/04/05 09:49 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Is there anything I haven't considered here??
How often you will visit your friend in prison WR
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3579418 - 01/04/05 12:44 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Alternity said: Good point. I think we've decided to go with hiding them on his person, undeclared. That way, even in the event of a bag search or so far as a clothes search/pat down he's gonna be fine. They'd have to literally strip him down completely naked to find anything. I don't see how anything could go wrong. Is there anything I haven't considered here??
You're friend will be nervous and exhibiting signs of anxiety airport security are trained to look for. Don't be a dumbass.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: wandrnshaman]
#3581108 - 01/04/05 07:02 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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I assume neither of you have ever carried anything in an airport before. Exhibiting signs of anxiety? Come on. That's easily controllable on your part. And even if you were worried about it being a problem, just pop a little Xanax beforehand and you'll be extremely calm and collected without exhibiting even the slightest sign of intoxication.
Now, I'm curious. Let's say you're right, he appears nervous and anxious once in the airport. Security sees him like this. Then what? They're going to strip him naked because he seemed anxious? Is that really what you think will happen? I didn't know airport security performed fully invasive searches on every person with generalized anxiety disorder/panic attacks or anybody in a rush -maybe afraid of missing their flight, or any person who is worried enough about something to show it on their face, or somebody who is apprehensive because they're afraid of flying or worried about terrorists, or those people who drank too much coffee earlier and are jittery/twitchy. This may actually be helpful because the entire airport security task force will be so busy filling out paperwork for these searches that you could slip by unnoticed.
C'mon, if you're SO sure that it's stupid and you WILL get caught, you must be able to list the reasons that make you so sure of it! What are they? If you EXPLAIN WHY you'll get caught, then one can take steps to AVOID letting that happen. That's the whole reason I posted this. So people could give suggestions or point out anything that may be a problem or share their own first-hand experiences. A few of you did and it really helps out. But asinine comments like, "How often you will visit your friend in prison" are a waste of server space. Keep it to yourself if you can't back it up for squat.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: tomk]
#3581986 - 01/04/05 10:31 PM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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tomk said: spend the money on the trip to amsterdamn to expand growing capacity?
No kidding. It's gonna be jail time for your buddy. And all over a measly bag of mushrooms, that'd be a huge shame. Mushrooms really don't vary from shroom to shroom. I wish your friend the best of luck.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: browndustin]
#3585111 - 01/05/05 04:37 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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Please, read the whole string before reiterating something that's already been addressed. If he could expand growing capacity any more than it is, I'd make sure that happened. And again, it's not an issue of money. I don't know where anybody got that from.
I'm much more interested in why you think someone would get caught. Do you work at an airport or something? Have you personally gotten caught doing this? Or did somebody close to you get caught doing it? Is it that you've gotten caught doing something much less risky and you think somebody else couldn't do any better? I mean the odds of getting arrested for drugs at any given time are obviously extremely small unless you're a dimwitted oaf. What makes this so much different than having drugs at any other time/place???
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3589709 - 01/06/05 04:28 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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I'm taking a trip to trip in Amsterdam in a couple months and I have a similar but different concern. I'm not really planning on flying any home with me, however I am traveling by Eurorail from the Netherlands, through France and am spending a week traveling Spain. I'm meeting up with a good friend in Madrid, and I want to bring him some boomers if possible to help make holy week in Barcelona just a little bit more holy.
I was wondering if anyone had any smuggling experience on the Eurorail?
Oh side-note... not this this will really help your male buddy, but a tip for any of the young ladies reading this conversation looking for answers to the same question, I've got a success story. I took a two week vacation around northern Cali with my parents in high school and brought an eighth of some dank and an eighth of shrooms. Cut a slit on the sticky side of a maxi pad and shove the suckers in there. adhere to panties and go. You have to give security some serious reasons to look into your sanitary needs. But again, that was within the states.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Shikarta]
#3589864 - 01/06/05 05:07 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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dude dont even try to get that though us customs they will throw you in jail for 5 years for possession and intent to sell.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: ShroomOmatic]
#3589867 - 01/06/05 05:08 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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airports are so secure now adays.
crossing into any county they will check your bags. xpecially amsterdam.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: ShroomOmatic]
#3593389 - 01/07/05 11:38 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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<irritated> Ok, let me get the logistics of what you just said straight. You actually think that they search everybody's bags at customs? Or are you joking? You obviously haven't been through US customs at any point. You've probably never been in an airport either. The customs lines can be already LONG and that's with them checking very few bags. Every time I've come through US customs in the past two years I have yet to be searched a single time. And I'm a white male age 18-29, often by myself. Of course, I don't look like some dirty bong-toking hippie either. BESIDES, I'm not even talking about carrying shit in my bags to begin with. Is it that hard to read a thread before posting in it? Anyway, you were actually right when you said that airports are secure. I'm surprised. But you're talking about the WRONG TYPE of security. Your advice would be valid if I was trying to smuggle 2lbs of high-grade explosives onto an aircraft. Duh. The whole point of the added security is prevention of terrorism, not drugs. But what should I expect from somebody who spells 'especially' with an 'x'. </irritated>
Shikarta, I have some experience travelling on Eurorail. My friend is actually taking it from Amsterdam to Paris next week. He's going to take his shrooms to Paris on the train for sure. I would too, especially for going to the Louvre. I haven't been on it recently but I doubt it has changed that much. It's kinda like a domestic flight at an airport only less secure as far as drugs go. I've heard that they sometimes have dogs for explosives and/or drugs but not as frequently as an international airport. Your maxipad idea would work well I think. I was sure you were going to suggest holding the stuff in your vagina but I guess it's a similar concept. Whatever you do, always avoid carry on bags, obviously. Just stuffing it into your checked bags could work too, but I'd keep it on me. If you're nervous, you can go scout out the Eurorail station a day or so before you leave on it. You'll be able to guage the security fairly easily I wager.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3595202 - 01/07/05 06:47 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Alternity said: Of course, I don't look like some dirty bong-toking hippie either.
i resent that. but i definitly agree with you. as long as you dont declare something the costoms agents will not serch your bags. they are busy enough. the only reason they would search your undeclaired baggage is if the dog at their side starts going berserk at you. then you're in for the long haul.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: sander]
#3595846 - 01/07/05 09:10 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Haha, nah, I was just saying it for the humor of the phrase, no offense intended. I think I saw it on a cartoon once, I can't remember which one though, something like 'shut your bong-hole you dirty hippie' I think. Made me laugh.
But uh, yeah, so my friend has narrowed it down to two possible ideas. Either a) grind the dried shrooms into as fine a powder as possible then stuff it into as many 'OOO' size gelcaps as it takes to hold all of it and put the caps into an empty bottle of some herbal root/vitamin/whatever junk. THEN he'll take that bottle, along with his other perscribed medications and toiletries and put it all into a 'certain ' brand of odor-proof bag and pack it away into his checked suitcase. By including his toiletries in the bag, he can at least have it seem like he just uses the bag for medicine and toothbrush/floss and stuff... OR b) he'll grind it up and stuff the shit in gelcaps like before, then he'll just put the caps in a ziploc and put that in the 'certain' odor-proof bag and secure it flat to his inner thigh.
Now, I'm leaning towards plan 'a' and I've told him this. Because at least the shit is disguised as something overlookable. Anyway, I'm just looking for any more ideas/suggestions/valuable information, but based on most of the posts in this thread I'm doubtful. Well, here's hoping. Thanks again guys.
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Re: Taking Mushrooms Back via Plane From Amsterdam [Re: Alternity]
#3597465 - 01/08/05 06:39 AM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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I wouldn't place it with prescribed meds, they check these very often i believe. I'd keep it separate
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