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 Anno
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 Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: cerealrat]
#2804344 - 06/18/04 01:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.timesrecordnews.com/trn/local_news/article/0,1891,TRN_5784_2972302,00.html
Numbers for drug bust not accurate
Computing error led to overestimation of mushroom doses seized
By Jessica Langdon/Times Record News
June 18, 2004
A calculating glitch appears to have caused the dollar amount to mushroom into the millions on a major psilocybin mushroom bust in North Texas.
The 25 pounds of mushrooms seized last week were worth only a fraction of the money authorities originally believed, police said.
The original figure topped $11 million. The North Texas Regional Drug Task Force said that amount was about 25 times too high.
The Task Force, the Wichita Falls Police Department's Organized Crime Unit, Department of Public Safety narcotics officers and the Clay County Sheriff's Department worked together on the investigation. They say the mushroom distribution operation stretched from Wichita Falls to Austin.
The investigation resulted in a large find - 21 pounds of mushrooms - at a Clay County home June 8. Officers also seized a few more pounds from other related incidents, they said.
Drug investigators originally thought the 25 pounds of mushrooms held 1.13 million dosage units, making them worth $11.35 million.
Those are the numbers the DPS computerized reporting system came up with, WFPD Sgt. Cindy Walker said.
But that magic $11 million number didn't go with the magic mushrooms after all - a glitch in the reporting system caused it to calculate the figures as it would for LSD, instead, Walker said. The system separates LSD and "other hallucinogenic drugs," DPS narcotics investigator Jim Blake said after the bust.
Walker said something went wrong in the calculation, and the dosage unit used to determine the value of psilocybin mushrooms is a quarter of a gram. That would add up to 45,400 dosage units in this case instead of more than 1 million. The lower number makes the total value closer to $454,000 at $10 per dosage unit, Walker said.
The Drug Enforcement Agency uses ounces as a basis for figuring out value, and the agency said the prices vary. The United States Department of Justice's Web site says psilocybin mushrooms generally sell for $20 per [ of an ounce, and for $100-$150 per ounce.
Eating the mushrooms causes hallucinations and affects the senses, the DEA reported. It said the drugs can make colors seem brighter and create a mixing of senses like "hearing a color." The drug can also make it hard to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. They're not as popular as many other drugs, the agency said, but they do pop up where young crowds gather - college campuses, parties and raves.
Investigators said the mushrooms were cultivated at the Clay County residence. Officers have made one arrest so far in the local case.
Joe Ben Patrick, 53, of Clay County was charged with unlawful delivery or manufacture with intent to deliver a simulated controlled substance in connection with the June 8 incident. Bond was set at $10,000. He was free from the Wichita County Jail Thursday.
Investigators were still looking into the incident and expected to make another arrest in connection with the case.
Crime reporter Jessica Langdon can be reached at (940) 763-7530 or by email at langdonj(at)TimesRecordNews.com.
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Wiccan_Seeker
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Re: Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: Anno]
#2804605 - 06/18/04 03:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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***Drug investigators originally thought the 25 pounds of mushrooms held 1.13 million dosage units, making them worth $11.35 million.
Those are the numbers the DPS computerized reporting system came up with, WFPD Sgt. Cindy Walker said.
Walker said something went wrong in the calculation,***
I think the hick-to-hightech interface was at fault here.
"Psilocybin mushrooms are Psilocybin in mushroom form. It's, like, LSD." 
***The drug can also make it hard to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.***
Reality being that the factual 21 lbs of mushrooms are the 25 lbs used in the corrected calculation, ofcourse.
It's 0.01gr/no its 0.25gr/no its an ounce!
If these cops were to use drugs it'd be a busy day at the ER.
If I were the IRS i'd take a closer look at their tax forms, them having officially declared something to be worth over 1.000 times its actual market value.
***The drug can also make it hard to tell the difference between fantasy and reality.***
Hands up if you ever mistook a heaping tablespoon for ten gallons 
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 @cro
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Re: Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: Anno]
#2804640 - 06/18/04 04:51 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anno said:
Drug investigators originally thought the 25 pounds of mushrooms held 1.13 million dosage units, making them worth $11.35 million.
Those are the numbers the DPS computerized reporting system came up with, WFPD Sgt. Cindy Walker said.
But that magic $11 million number didn't go with the magic mushrooms after all - a glitch in the reporting system caused it to calculate the figures as it would for LSD.
Hmm... that doesn't make sense either, 25 pounds of LSD is only 1.13 million doses? Find another excuse.
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Redo
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Re: Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: @cro]
#2809306 - 06/19/04 05:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe they forgot how to read their report before its published.
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wandrnshaman
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Re: Sizeable mushroom bust said to be one of biggest on record [Re: uki]
#2809685 - 06/19/04 08:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
uki said:
we should stop calling the officers pigs, its insulting to the animals, after all, they are one of the smartest in the barnyard.
how true
Edited by wandrnshaman (06/19/04 08:38 PM)
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uki
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 Re: Sizeable mushroom bust said to be one of biggest on record [Re: Fungi_x]
#2809719 - 06/19/04 08:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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amen.
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mjshroomer
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Re: Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: @cro]
#2810557 - 06/20/04 05:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can all thank me for straightening out Jessica. IT was my letter to her about this matter which brought out this latestr news Item.
However, she did not apologize for publishing incorrect information given to her by the local police and the DEA. And there are four thousand doses of acisd in a gram so 25 pounds would be a lot more than a million hits. I was trying to copy the letter to Jessica fromt he mycotopia site. I will look into my email folder and see if I have it.
mj
Hold on
Here it is but this reporter did not respond to my email whatsoever.
What a cold coward she is.
My letter to her of last week after this item appeared on the internet
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxx
Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Allen" Add to Address Book
Subject: Your Irresponsible Reporting of Mushroom Bust
To: langdonj@TimesRecordNews.com.
Dear Mz. Jessica Langdon,
My name is John W. Allen and I am the author of 9
books, one medical poster, 4 CD-ROM information discs,
including a bibliography of hallucinogenic mushrooms
(2700 published papers, 1700 annotations and 8500
cross-references), and more than three dozen published
papers in respectable scientific and botanical
journals on the subject of hallucinogenic (magic)
mushrooms.
Your recent two editorials on the bust in North Texas
and the party article are wrought with false
information, obviously supplied to you by both your
local drug enforcement task forces as well as by the
DEA.
Psilocybian home grown mushrooms contain approximately
10 doses per dried ounce of mushrooms equaling approx,
280 doses per pound. That would be the equivenelent
of 7000 doses. Not the far-fetched amount you quoted
in your article or what the law enforcement idiots
told you. Printing false information is disgusting.
Those mushrooms basically have a steet value of $20.00
to $35.00 per dose (1/8) of a dried ounce or one ounce
fresh.
One fresh pound of Psilocybe cubensis, the mushrooms
in question, dry to approximately one dried ounce. A
dried ounce of those mushrooms sells for anywhere from
$60.00 to $100.00 dollars per dried ounce.
One dried pound of Psilocybe cubensis retails to
dealers for the sum of $400 to $800 a dried pound.
At $800 per dried pound, that means that 25 pounds of
mushrooms would have a wholesale price of $25,000
dollars. Nowhere the false amount of a million and
above quoted to you and by you in your reporting of
this case.
To begin with, a clinical dosage of Psilocybe cubensis
is from 3-5 dried grams.
While one gram will give a mild inebriation, it is not
the high and the majority of users require at least an
8th of a dried ounce or one ounce fresh. The mushrooms
lose some potency in drying.
So I Am curious as to the sensationalististic
reporting of this incident over responsible journalism
from you by writing about a subject you apparently
have no knowledge of.
Also, you cannot get intoxicated smoking the
mushrooms. That is urban legend, a falsehood
perpetuated in the sixties by Carlos Castaneda in his
fictional book of Don juan.
Additionally, mushrooms were only popular in the
sixties on the east coast with the Harvard Crowd and
studnts living in Florida to Texas where they grow
naturally in manure in pasturelands.
They were never available in the Haight-Ashbury or at
love-ins, Be-Ins, Happenings, etc.
And for more than 25 years I have lectured around the
world in many countries at many Universities and
mushrooms have been a drug of choice at a large
majority of schools of higher learning.
These police lied to you and to your newspaper and you
are responsible or reporting their lies. I hope that
you will investigate these falsehoods and try to
correct the irresponsible report which you have placed
in the public eye. IF not, I will post these
incidents on my site with the many other news items I
have colleted and responded to over the past 30 years.
You would be most welcome to visit my online mushroom
website, the largest source of Psilocbine information
on the web with more than 2800 photographs of 55 of
the more than 190 known species of mushrooms which
contain the chemicals psilocine and/or psilocybine.
Mushroom John's Shroom World
http://www.mushroojohn.com
My published papers
http://www.mushromjohn.com/articles.htm
Dozens of Mushroom related news items and a section on
Mushroom Busts around the USA, Busts of from 50 to
500 pounds. Again, false information provided to you
by these drug enforcement agents who are full of it
and my god did you fall for their story.
http://www.mushroomjohn.com/news.htm
Best regards,
John W. Allen
Visit http://www.mushroomjohn.com
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ANd she could not respond to my mail, but saw fuit to cover her ass with an excuse of machinery failure.
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Redo
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Re: Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: mjshroomer]
#2811963 - 06/20/04 08:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjs you should run the media, nothing like somebody with those great credentials mailing a naive reporter  .
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haz
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Re: Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: Redo]
#2824099 - 06/24/04 12:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow.... thats unbelieveable... and you wonder why people are so ignorant to such things... if its in print, it must be true. Fucking idiots.
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Re: Sizeable mushroom bust said to be one of biggest on record [Re: Fungi_x]
#2834839 - 06/27/04 09:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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mwa-mushies with attitude
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Anno
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Re: Numbers for drug bust not accurate [Re: Anno]
#2884629 - 07/13/04 12:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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>The lower number makes the total value closer to $454,000 at $10 per dosage unit, Walker said.
>The United States Department of Justice's Web site says psilocybin mushrooms
>generally sell for $20 per [ of an ounce, and for $100-$150 per ounce.
So the new numbers are $454,000 .
Let's recalculate it with the United States Department of Justice's Web site's figures(let#s take the $150 per ounce:
21 pounds x 16 oz/pound = 336 ounces of mushrooms
336 ounces x $150/ounce = $50,400
Compare $50,400 to $454,000 to $11,000,000 ....
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