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 Shittake Substate Recipe??? 
#2561350 - 04/14/04 08:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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K guys, I just got my impulse sealer and now I'm ready to start making my shittake/reishi bags. I have a garbage bag full of maple shaving from a woodworking shop. I have a bunch of oak(a bit of mdf mixed in that) sawdust. Will this work for substrate? Gunna innoculate with a needle. I can also get more compost type of oak/maple chips. BUt would whut I have work for now. Like the shavings and sawdust? Whutelse should I add?
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 YidakiMan
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 Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: dastats]
#2561740 - 04/14/04 10:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Use your needle to inoculate grain, and spawn that into pure sawdust. That can and will fruit or you can use it as spawn into more bags that are sawdust/chips/bran.
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ragadinks
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: YidakiMan]
#2561933 - 04/14/04 11:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I would do as YidakiMan said.
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: ragadinks]
#2562062 - 04/15/04 12:23 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Aight, but so hey, whut kinna bran? Like cereal? and i also seen gypsum as an ingerdient. Can i get these at the grocery store? Any is the gypsum there for ph balance?
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: dastats]
#2562350 - 04/15/04 03:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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In Stamets GGMM this recipe is recommended as a base substrate for woodloving species:
100 pounds sawdust
50 pound wood chips ( 1/2 - 4 inches )
40 pounds oat, wheat or rice bran
5-7 pounds gypsum (calcium sulfate)
moisture 60-65 %
In the book it says that the gypsum does not affect PH very much, but stimulates mycelial growth.
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: ragadinks]
#2563216 - 04/15/04 10:16 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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k, thanks alot raga. Now question about moisture? Do you soak? Or just add the 60-65%water to the mix and stir? Calcium sulfate, can you get it a the grocery store? I'm doing phoneing right now to track it down. But just thought I would ask.
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: dastats]
#2563356 - 04/15/04 10:51 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gypsum is used to loosen soil, to get rid of clumps. Guarentee you'll find it at landscaping, nursuries, or hardware stores.
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: dastats]
#2563499 - 04/15/04 11:28 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have never really used exactly this recipe cause I almost only use wood fuel pellets.
Usually I just soak them overnight and then let them drain for several hours.
When I use chipped wood pieces I just soak them over night, boil them and again let them drain for several ours.
They say that the moisture content is correct when only a few drops of water get out of the substrate when you squeeze it hard.
But I think you can get a better feeling for the moisture content by weighting the wet and the dry substrate ( put the wet substrate in the oven ) and calculate the difference.
But I have to admit that I never have done that either.
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: ragadinks]
#2564137 - 04/15/04 01:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I cant find wood fuel pellets anywhere within 100 miles around me. I'm contacting a lumber distributor that is a family friend, hopefully he will have sawdust for me. I bet he can get lots!
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: dastats]
#2565923 - 04/15/04 08:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Several years ago I tried maple shavings from a wood planer and found them to dry out very quickly.
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Re: Shittake Substate Recipe??? [Re: MycoFactory]
#2566186 - 04/15/04 10:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, werd mycobag. I tried that with cyans with no success. If i added maybe a bit of coir or just pane sawdust, would that balance it all out?
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