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Super fucked up shit, please advise.
    #21672143 - 05/12/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

This really happened and is still happening and I need a DM from anyone who has ever experienced anything similar whether on shrooms, DMT, muscle relaxers, beanies, poppers, wtfever.  I don't care.  If this has happened please tell me I have not lost my fucking mind. I am not a troll.  I'm kind of frightened of the implications.

I am a HARDCORE skeptic when it comes to possession, aliens, god, what have you.

However... believing that we are all one consciousness experiencing our self subjectively.

I took about 60g fresh around 1pm CST today.  I was settling in for a really groovy time around 3pm, having just smoked a bud.  Was starting to trip hard and stretching because I was feeling really anxious and laying flat and stretching my chronically knotted shoulder because that made the anxiety dissipate. 

Here's where it gets really fucking weird.
Muscle relaxation: Full
The knots were working themselves out as I experienced a Gift; full realization of how to align my body and work out all my knots.  I was in the weirdest fucking positions that frankly felt like they could be dangerous if I went fully into trance while in one (mostly involving the angle of my neck).
Then my knots felt like they were "unwinding" in a very specific and mostly involuntary manner.
Then, while pretty well zoning my whole body started to unwind.  Still laying on the floor, my large muscle groups began to twitch really hard and I was dancing some style of dance that was popular when I was in middle school back in the early nineties. 
I don't dance.  This was a dance routine. 
Still, my muscles ached if I tried to stop it.  I let it go, completely cognizant, starting to come down, watching my frightened cats and telling them. "I don't know what the fuck is going on!"
Whatever it is, almost all of my pain and anxiety (which I usually have anyway) is gone as I'm coming down completely now. I have a clarity in not just my thinking, but my hearing and sight focus are better.

I feel like I had a rider.

Now I've spoken with a close friend who has her Master's in psychology and has also done her share of shrooms.  She said it is possible that repressed memories something something cross-firing with the lymbic region could cause these movements. 

But I felt like I had a rider who was experiencing events in my place and preventing me from consciously experiencing or remembering them.

I think I may have fucked a few friends (with my penis, not situationally) over the years and repressed the memories.  I think it's been happening since I was in middle school.

Has ANYONE has similar experiences?  Does anyone genuinely believe they may have been possessed or had a ride-along and thinks that sounds completely insane? 

It freaked me out because I just let it happen to see what my body was doing to show me.  And the gestures my left hand was making while the left side of my jaw formed half of words silently looked like an apology.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex] * 6
    #21672157 - 05/12/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Sometimes with psychedelics all you can do is say, "Well that was weird." When it comes to tripping there's a fine line between learning something and driving yourself nuts.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21672195 - 05/12/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

It comes down to believing what you want to believe about the situation. There is no way to say yes you were possessed or yes it happened because of repressed memories.

However! There have been two occasions that I have personally witnessed of other people on psychedelics acting very possessed. One time my friend smoked DMT and I'm not kidding when I say he stayed possessed for at least 2 or 3 hours after taking one single inhalation of DMT. It was honestly the wildest thing I had to deal with. He spoke like a demon for hours.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21672204 - 05/12/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I do massage and there is a technique called 'unwinding' i sapose as well as just what happens during a session...

memories are held within the muscle system.

Dance.

Sounds pretty classic and awesome, if you ask me.

What a beautiful gift, eh?

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21672284 - 05/12/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I't's not that far fetched that you had a "Rider" I've done some study into HooDoo and in the "old religion" this is a somewhat not rare occurence. I'd be trolling the hell out of you right now If the way you described it did'nt ring true. Was it real was it your subconscious whos to say. Take it for what it is.


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: r00tuuu123] * 1
    #21672425 - 05/12/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Perhaps it was part of your unconscious mind, perhaps it was part of something different.  At this point OP isn't the experience what really counts?  Part of these experiences aren't going to fall in line with what other people experience.  How you integrate and relate that experience is what seems to be the most important.

If you can't find answers now I wouldn't jump into more psychedelics yet.  A lot of times rather than answering questions these chemicals can have a way of making the questions more complicated.


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 1
    #21672495 - 05/12/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Sometimes tripping can be really messed up. It can do things to a person's mind that are unexplainable to say the least. I personally don't think it is a possession or rider. Why would a rider be doing these menial things through you? Dancing and talking? If i was a rider, i would be doing some serious shit. Also, your friend with a master's degree is probably overstepping her knowledge of the situation. The wildest, craziest explanation is rarely the answer. Just because she learned about a wierd psychological theory doesn't mean it applies to you.


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: stratocast]
    #21672596 - 05/12/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You did 60g fresh mushrooms, this causes fucked up shit to happen.
Maybe ask Asante in this subforum: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/229
He knows way more about this stuff then most people here.


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Turtletotem]
    #21672643 - 05/12/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms man, shit happens. I've done the weirdest body stretches and movements on LSD before. Kind of freaked me out too haha:shrug:


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex] * 4
    #21672746 - 05/12/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'm just picturing you dancing like the old dude from those six flags commercials in a silent room while bewildered and asking your cats what the hell is going on




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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Oldgregg]
    #21672805 - 05/12/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Not funny

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Shining Cosmos] * 3
    #21672809 - 05/13/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

it's kinda funny...if we can't laugh at the weird shit we do while tripping, then why trip at all?


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Oldgregg]
    #21672825 - 05/13/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Oh I'm not deny that at all..

Im saying that specifically your statement wasn't funny.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Shining Cosmos]
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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. *DELETED* [Re: Shining Cosmos] * 1
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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Oldgregg] * 1
    #21672868 - 05/13/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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I'm just picturing you dancing like the old dude from those six flags commercials in a silent room while bewildered and asking your cats what the hell is going on






I thought it was pretty funny :lol: :highfive:


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Oldgregg]
    #21672879 - 05/13/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You're welcome.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21672898 - 05/13/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I have never really felt possessed like that.  It gets pretty weird though.  Especially when you're tripping a sensation can just feel like something it isn't.  I doubt that you were doing a 90s dance but I can believe that is how it felt.  How can you know it is a dance routine if you are not a 90s dancer anyway?

I don't know what you mean really by a rider.  If you don't feel like that when you don't take 60g I think you really don't have to worry about being possessed. 

As to fucking friends and repressing memories.  That is pretty normal with things that you feel conflicted or uncomfortable about.  That's a strange thing to say though.  You are not sure if you fucked them or not?  That would worry me a bit I guess but maybe I am misunderstanding you.

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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Artex]
    #21672939 - 05/13/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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I wouldn't go past 2.


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Re: Super fucked up shit, please advise. [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 2
    #21673027 - 05/13/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'm sorry. Did you say you fucked your friends and suppressed the memory of it? Are these people still your friends?


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