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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: neophyteshroomer]
    #2040922 - 10/24/03 10:23 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I think that is dope-amine. Not sure of the exact spelling


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: blahblahblah]
    #2041073 - 10/24/03 11:53 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

No -- it's tryptophan. The theory is that since it's a direct precursor to serotonin it raises your serotonin levels and serotonin is probably the most important neurotransmitter in the activation of your reticular activating system (accompanied by a decrease in norepinephrine, etc.) It should also decrease your appetite, too, since serotonin usually controls appetite.

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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: micro]
    #2047190 - 10/27/03 01:24 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, and it's synergistic with riboflavin and other foodrugs.

Ever wonder why everybody takes a nap on Thanksgiving, right after eating a bunch of Turkey, a piece of pumpkin pie and a glass of milk?

BTW, if you have kids and you didn't know about it, use it, it works. Turkey and milk for the kid, + coffee and whisky for the parents = WOOHOO!


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: mycofile]
    #2047297 - 10/27/03 02:11 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Woah. What a relief.

Before I saw the date, I thought someone let that idiot tripyamine back in the shroomery.


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: cb9fl]
    #2047640 - 10/27/03 04:02 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I sesame seeds have soooo much tryptophan in them, why not just add some to the cakes when you make them? I am thinking of beginning again. Always used brown rice and manure before. Would some sesame seeds up the amperage?

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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: nightowl]
    #2047712 - 10/27/03 04:54 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Again -- tryptamine should be a lto better of a precursor than tryptophan. I have a lot of info in my prev. posts on this.

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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: cb9fl]
    #2047793 - 10/27/03 05:25 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

i think the coherence of his post must demonstrate the potency of this new method.


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: AAethiopicus]
    #2047839 - 10/27/03 05:40 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Have you read the whole post? What new method? And what is cpu blockage? Noone has answered this as of yet....

(lol)

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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: micro]
    #2052690 - 10/29/03 03:23 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, Iv'e seen so many posts on L-tryptophan, tryptamine, tryptophan HCL, DMT ect.... Lots of people posting useful information such as "cool" "got to try that" "wow Dude" and other such revelant info,,
I have 1 big question. HAS ANYONE TRIED THIS !! and if so.. what was the affect.
Lets do an experiment,
1.)Wip up some BRF substrate make 2 batches, 1 with tryptamine/ tryptophan or the amino acid of your choice.

2.)Inoculate with the same strain from the same spore syringe. Lets keep it as basic as possible.

3.) Fruit the cakes and eat the fruits in 2 control sessions.

This should shed some light on the matter.

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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: Ivan]
    #2053128 - 10/29/03 10:05 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I think all of this l-tryptophan speculation was brought about by a test that was done in the 70's or 80's by Gartz, PF also attempted it. So it is believed to work.
heres a link to it here at the shroomery
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7953

But even if someone did try this how would one tell if it work without bio-assay testing and other such tests? I dont think just consuming the fruits would really be enough to tell if the extra trouble is worth while.


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: Ivan]
    #2053130 - 10/29/03 10:06 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I would love to, but unfortunately I've found nowhere that sells tryptamine to someone who's not a business, and noone can seem to tell me where I can find MEK, to make it (I saw a post where someone found it in a hardware store but what the hell is it in? Or is it in the carboxyl department next to the aldehydes????)

I guess the best thing would be just to buy the tryptamine -- anyone know of a place?

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check your enzyme sequences! [Re: micro]
    #2060360 - 10/31/03 01:06 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

The Problem with loading your cakes with tryptophan is that in psilocin synthetic metabolism, tryptophan decarboxylase is the downregulated enzyme. you cant just add tryptophan to get really potent shrooms. you need to decarboxylate in vitro, then seed your shrooms.


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Re: check your enzyme sequences! [Re: doktor_alternate]
    #2061531 - 10/31/03 09:05 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

no conclusive info either way on the brain damage but terrance mkenna(rest in peace) did die of a brain tumor. I was lucky enough to meet him several months previous at a book signing/conference in Portland and he was still extremely articulate and coherentand apparently that never changed until he passed. so even if you do get one at least you're not a vegetable before you go. As fgar as the tryptamine enhanced cubensis theory goes there are succesful projects completed by paul stamets that you can view. they are referenced in his "psilocybin mushrooms of the world" book in the cubensis section.
I dont think that using tryptophan would make a noticeable differnce in potency in the flushes of mushrooms. And whatever increase is made would most likely end up as the unstable psilocin. not the more preferred for storage psilocybin. I would like to see info on the amounts of baeo and norbaeocystin in flushes enhanced with tryptamine. That info is probably included in the stamets info I just dont have a copy of those documents. If someone has them it would be great if they could post them here.


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: cb9fl]
    #2062397 - 11/01/03 09:47 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

chemicals between us:(


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: stara]
    #2062720 - 11/01/03 03:04 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Psilocin is an antioxidant.

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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: micro]
    #2065129 - 11/02/03 03:28 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

:sorry:


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: micro]
    #2065300 - 11/02/03 04:29 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

micro said:
Psilocin is an antioxidant.

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how so if it breaks down by oxidation?


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: Seraph]
    #2065332 - 11/02/03 04:37 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

That is why :wink:

An antioxidant is something that "reduces free radicals" or oxidative components in the body that cause oxidative mutations.  Since psilocin breaks down by oxidation it will reduce amount of these in the body, too.

Just thought it was funny -- maybe we should start an ad campaign?

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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this now) [Re: micro]
    #2066086 - 11/02/03 09:51 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

that would be funny...

but first we would need to find a way to make it more stable.


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Re: wow thesae so potant(tripple psilocin otc way read this [Re: micro]
    #2066495 - 11/03/03 12:12 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

MEK = methyl ethyl ketone

Look in the paint chem section of a hardware store. Comes in a 1 gallon tin.


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