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 RunningWater
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 Compost Colonization Question 
#2047169 - 10/27/03 10:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My ex wife is growing some oysters and used some premium compost. She is growing them in clear bins about 3 feet by 1.5 feet and the colonizing compost is about 3-4 inches. She innoculated the compost with rye grain about 11 days ago. The surfaces of two of the bins are completely colonized, yet there are small penny sized (at the largest)places were the compost has not yet been colonized (too wet?). Overall, its about 95% colonized. Is it ok if she initiates pinning as long as the surface is colonized? If so, could those chunks contaminate? Or will they fill in as the subtrate looks for water in later flushes? She is NOT casing but just fruiting directly in the bins off of the compost. THanks
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: RunningWater]
#2047189 - 10/27/03 10:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If she waited a few days (2-3) and saw no more growth, there's not much more she can do. You could try waiting like 5 days to see if they'll colonize, but if they don't it's probably an uneven mixture (yeah -- too much water in those spots, or maybe some condensation dripped down from the low parts of the covering, or maybe unmixed chunks of thick substrate....) They can contaminate, so you might want to try and cut them out if they don't colonize; hopefully it'll be colonized below them.
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RunningWater
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: micro]
#2047214 - 10/27/03 10:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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But will some colonizing still occur when its put into fruiting mode?
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: RunningWater]
#2047224 - 10/27/03 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, but a lot slower.
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o0PapaSmurf0o
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: micro]
#2076224 - 11/06/03 05:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I am having the same problem. I think that I am going to crumble everything up at about eighty percent colonization to ensure I have uniformity hopefully and complete colonization.
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: o0PapaSmurf0o]
#2076504 - 11/06/03 08:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's a really good idea.
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o0PapaSmurf0o
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: micro]
#2080110 - 11/07/03 05:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So far after one day post crumbling the substrate has a greyish color which is due to the fact of mixing up uncolonized cow manure with the colonized portions. I should notice the entire substrate become brighter as the mycelium incorporates the manure.
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: o0PapaSmurf0o]
#2080208 - 11/07/03 06:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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is it okay to add water directly to the substrate when mixing?
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Re: Compost Colonization Question [Re: lordvishnu]
#2131773 - 11/24/03 03:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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well to report back I've now determined that the reason for uneven colonization is overly wet substrate. Portions that seemed to be colonized were merely fluffed up mycelium on the top of the substrate. Underneath was a wet stagnant mess. After mixing everything up this overly wet substrate became contaminated with the green mold. I've modified my procedures where I know grind the cow poo up evenly breaking it up which yields a rather fluffy material. I do not add extra water to this at all. Let me clarify that my procedure begins with soaking full cow patties in an ice chest at pasteurization temperatures. This helps soften up the cow poo for grinding. After allowing this to soak I drain the patties, break up, and grind by smashing them through a quarter inch hardware cloth. I then load this up into foil pans and pasteurize again.
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