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Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping * 2
    #19911067 - 04/28/14 10:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping
Apr 14, 2014 - psychedelicfrontier.com

Trips are like dreams. A genuine insight may bubble up from deep in your subconscious, handily solving a problem that your sober mind found intractable. Or you might emerge with absolute nonsense, the product of synapses firing without the guidance of logic and consistency.

You don’t take your dreams as absolute truth upon waking, and psychedelics should be no different. It’s crucial to think critically about which lessons to take back into consensus reality, and which to leave behind.

Wisdom or Dogma?

Many psychonauts spread their personal beliefs and speculations as though they were fact. Sometimes they take an ancient myth, like Amazonian animism, and dress it up in the new-age language of spirits, energies, and vibrations. “Mother Ayahuasca,” they say, “is the plant world’s way of communicating with us, raising us to a higher vibration.”

Other times they’ll offer a testable scientific hypothesis, but disguise it as established fact. A good example is the myth that DMT is responsible for dreaming, and is released when a person dies. These are interesting ideas, but when presented as Unquestionable Truth they limit rather than liberate us.

The desire to share is natural and well-meaning — after a profound psychedelic experience, people want to communicate their new “knowledge” to others. Whether the insight concerns aliens and discarnate entities, human history and genetics, half-baked quantum theories, or the imminent apocalypse, the uncritical explorer rushes to share it with anyone who will listen.

A noble goal, to be sure. But dogma dressed up as wisdom is still dogma. Door-to-door evangelists also have genuine compassion; that doesn’t make them any less annoying. Their smiles are a little too smug, their enthusiasm a little too salesman-like. They forget that enlightenment comes in many forms, and one size definitely does not fit all.

This is why I want to encourage skepticism in the psychedelic community. Some psychedelic realizations are truly insightful. But if we’re honest with ourselves, we will admit that others are just flights of fancy — the subconscious mind taking liberties just as it does in dreams. There’s no need to discard these experiences altogether, but we can regard them as good memories rather than life lessons.

Paradoxically, if we give the psychedelic experience too much credit, we will undermine its potential for providing real insight. Tripping will then make us gullible and irrational, suckers taken in by our own imagination. And that’s exactly how psychedelic enthusiasts are often perceived.

Terence McKenna is a great example. Although I admire the man’s piercing criticisms of modern society, some of his “theories” — in particular those concerning Timewave Zero, Stoned Apes, and an extraterrestrial mushroom intelligence — are nothing but conjecture and fantasy. His presentation is persuasive, but one gets the impression that a wordsmith as eloquent as McKenna could make a case for any theory he wanted. My complaint is not really with McKenna — who promoted questioning, and never claimed to have a monopoly on the truth — but with fans who take his speculations as gospel. We must not confuse constructed narratives with reality, however tantalizing they may be. Skepticism demands more.


The Value of Small Insights


In my opinion, the most personal realizations usually produce the most value. They tend to be more relevant to one’s daily life than revelations about parallel dimensions, conspiracy theories, plant spirits, or astral travel.  If the psychedelic experience is a voyage through the internal landscape of Self, it stands to reason that any wisdom gained will pertain to that realm, not the universe at large. The drug is a chemical tool, not a direct line to Objective Truth.

Think about it. Unless you’re a particle physicist in need of a creative jumpstart, an LSD session is unlikely to help you discover anything about the fabric of reality that stands up to scrutiny. It may feel otherwise — you may be absolutely convinced that your astral form has visited distant realms of heaven and hell, trawled through Pure Knowledge and Pure Love, and returned with lessons for humanity — but really, it’s all you. Other people explore their own internal realms, different from yours but equally valid.

Even when many users of a drug report similar experiences, as with DMT, we shouldn’t be surprised; our neurological wiring is fundamentally the same. Of course a drug will affect similar creatures in similar ways. This hardly constitutes evidence that DMT is a portal to an alternate dimension populated by intelligent “machine elves.” It’s a novel hypothesis (perhaps even a testable one), but nothing more. Occam’s razor would suggest that the basis for these experiences is neurological, not ontological. (See James Kent and Teafaerie for in-depth critiques of the DMT entity phenomenon.)

As Sam Harris says, “we should be very slow to make conclusions about the nature of the cosmos based upon inner experience — no matter how profound these experiences seem.” So set aside, for a moment, the immediacy, the stark realness of your psychedelic trips. Try to strip away your emotional biases and examine your insights under the microscope of cold logic. Trips are characterized by wild creative bursts, unfettered imaginative powers, and non-linear thought patterns — all good reasons why they should not be taken as objective glimpses of truth.

Hoodwinking the Mind

An experience can be meaningful even if it is internally generated, of course. I would never dismiss the psychedelic experience as “just a chemical reaction” — after all, the same could be said of love and compassion, not to mention consciousness in general. But if we apply rigorous critical thinking as part of the integration process, we will emerge with practical lessons rather than ideology.

Consider how easy it is to fool the brain. If a neurologist applied electrical impulses to different areas of your brain, you would experience various sensations – hot, cold, bliss, paranoia, and so on. You might even hallucinate images or voices.

These are genuine sensations, indistinguishable from the real thing. While the neurologist plays your brain like an instrument, you would report that the room is very hot, or that music is playing nearby. And you would be dead wrong.

So we know from neuroscience, and from our dreams, that incredibly realistic experiences can be conjured without any external stimulus whatsoever. The human mind is easily hoodwinked.

This is what psychoactive drugs do — by perturbing the brain, they fundamentally change our perceptions and cognition. Some, like caffeine and amphetamine, can have beneficial effects on one’s focus and performance. Psychedelics, too, can improve many of our mental capacities and should never be dismissed as mere intoxicants.

But let’s be honest: psychedelics can also cause delusional thinking. Unwary explorers are likely to confuse self-generated ideas with “reality,” sometimes long after the trip has ended. Sober minds make this error too — perception is highly subjective, a process fraught with bias and projection even at the best of times — but the deepest divers of consciousness are especially vulnerable.

This may not be a popular opinion, but the risk of delusion is even greater in a religious context. Although an entheogenic ceremony like ayahuasca can be very helpful in navigating these realms, it also comes loaded with centuries of mythological baggage. Many spiritual tourists come back from Peru gushing about Mother Ayahuasca and other “plant teachers” — not as experiences or concepts, but as autonomous sentient beings.

I’m willing to entertain the hypothesis, but I don’t think the version of reality offered by Peruvian curanderos is the only one we should consider. It is just one cultural narrative, and there are thousands. The ayahuasca mythos makes a tempting reality tunnel — it’s ancient and esoteric, “authentic” and therefore hip, and seemingly offers passage to a bustling spirit world in an age of dreary materialism. But the allure of this mythology should make us more skeptical. As the history of religion shows, we are easily wooed by romanticized versions of reality — not because they are grounded in evidence, but because they are attractive.

It’s been said that the shamanic belief system acts as an anchor, helping to ground the entheogenic experience. Just remember that anchors can also keep us from moving forward.

Digging the Well of Uncertainty

“It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain an idea without accepting it. “ —Aristotle

We all have delusions, squares and trippers and psychedelic toe-dippers alike. Our brains are wired with cognitive biases that skew our perception of reality. Perhaps most notable is the Confirmation Bias: in order to reinforce our internal model of the world, we ignore contrary evidence and cling to ideas long after they are discredited.

Psychedelics can demolish these delusions. They remind you that it’s okay not to know. Used carelessly, however, they will just replace your delusions with other delusions. That’s part of the ego’s job — to fill the vacuum of uncertainty with a best guess, even if its best guess is irrational. It takes a dedicated explorer to avoid this trap.

Let your trips keep you humble. The emptiness of not-knowing is valuable. Don’t race to fill the well of uncertainty; fortify it.

I don’t want to diminish the value of psychedelics as learning tools — quite the opposite. With their help, I’ve experienced feelings I didn’t know were possible, and discovered parts of myself that I never knew existed. We’ve all engaged in metaphysical musings, pondering the fabric of space-time and human nature, perhaps gaining a deeper understanding of our place in the cosmos. Many of us have experienced a sense of “oneness” or samadhi that defies language. These experiences cannot be taken away from us, and a dose of skepticism does not invalidate them.

It’s when the insights come in the form of extravagant or unwarranted claims that we must stand guard. And even in the cases of hyper-dimensional entities and parallel universes, we don’t need to dismiss them entirely. We just need to accept that these are hypotheses, and weigh them against other hypotheses using available evidence. That is the scientific and, I believe, most fruitful approach to psychedelic insights.

I’m not suggesting self-censorship. Let’s continue to share our trip experiences, even the most outrageous ones! But please, resist the urge to place your beliefs on the pedestal of Absolute Truth. When two people with very different worldviews collide in conversation, they can either clash violently, or they can explore each other’s perspectives with curiosity and compassion. When we present our beliefs as just that — beliefs — we can engage other people without trying to convince, convert, or threaten them.

Trips, like dreams, can be both informative and deceptive, speaking a language of symbols and emotions. And like dreams, there is a middle path between cherishing them as divine revelations and ignoring them altogether.

Think of the trip as an excavation of the subterranean realms of Self. Don’t pile the wheelbarrow blindly with every rock you find. Apply reason like a sieve, sifting gems of wisdom from the debris. Gather and polish those gems, and over time, you might just end up with treasure.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Lord_McLovin] * 1
    #19911069 - 04/28/14 10:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I found this and didn't know whether to post it in the news or not. This shit should be pinned here.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19911124 - 04/28/14 10:44 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Same with a basic rundown of fractal geomitry and how neurons work.^

Great post.
I dig the honesty


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19911131 - 04/28/14 10:48 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19911310 - 04/28/14 11:38 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

A healthy amount of skepticism is nice but the article is an obvious shot at one particular belief system, it's right in the title.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #19911471 - 04/28/14 12:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I believe they are real inter dimensional beings that can only be viewed through special lenses. Althought if you trip ahuyasca you will be seeing spirits pretty  much forever. When substances activate your pinial gland , extrasensory functions of the brain are unlocked allowing you to perceive inter dimensional beings. Remember , you do not need eyes to see.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: JesusDaMartian]
    #19911701 - 04/28/14 01:07 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I like it, this is how I tend to think. But I don't bash others who think otherwise.

Wouldn't it be just swell if everyone presented their beliefs as beliefs and not undeniable fact. There'd probably be so few wars and conflicts. It's not cool to have the need to force others to believe in your religion, ideals, morals, etc.. At least IMO


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Jot]
    #19911837 - 04/28/14 01:34 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I liked most of it. I think skepticism is much needed. However, i'm not sure i agree with certain things like "LSD session is unlikely to help you discover anything about the fabric of reality that stands up to scrutiny." While i agree that not every thought that comes to your mind while tripping is a genuine revelation worthy of a nobel prize, i think observing the patterns inherent in the experience tell us a lot about the way we, and ultimately life functions. Many people liken psychedelics to a microscope for the mind. Even with a microscope you have to know how to interpret the data. It's not like you observe entities on the wall and conclude they must be real. Likewise i'm not saying it's going to solve quantum mechanical functions for you. But many subtle interactions within your subconscious emotions and logic become amplified and oftentimes realligned in ways that allow you to take a fresh perspective and draw parallels between the perspectives to find out what's true. Identifying patterns like that can reveal a lot about life because well... our brain is made by the same patterns as the rest of the universe.

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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19911992 - 04/28/14 02:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I definitely notice patterns in life whilst tripping as well.
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I liked most of it. I think skepticism is much needed. However, i'm not sure i agree with certain things like "LSD session is unlikely to help you discover anything about the fabric of reality that stands up to scrutiny." While i agree that not every thought that comes to your mind while tripping is a genuine revelation worthy of a nobel prize, i think observing the patterns inherent in the experience tell us a lot about the way we, and ultimately life functions. Many people liken psychedelics to a microscope for the mind. Even with a microscope you have to know how to interpret the data. It's not like you observe entities on the wall and conclude they must be real. Likewise i'm not saying it's going to solve quantum mechanical functions for you. But many subtle interactions within your subconscious emotions and logic become amplified and oftentimes realligned in ways that allow you to take a fresh perspective and draw parallels between the perspectives to find out what's true. Identifying patterns like that can reveal a lot about life because well... our brain is made by the same patterns as the rest of the universe.



I think what you're saying is very similar to what the post is saying. However declaring that our brain is made up of the same patterns as the rest of the universe is, IMO, the very type of broad statement the post wants to avoid. I'm not saying I don't agree, I just think it is better to state it as more of an opinion rather than fact. I do hold the belief as well that the universe is made up of subtle patterns.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Jot]
    #19912086 - 04/28/14 02:25 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I like to think they're real. If you could think of a substance to take and see entities and experience things you haven't ever fathomed, a "wildcard" drug so to speak. People that know about psychedelics would say DMT. Even doctors and people prescribing drugs, they've probably heard about DMT as well. There is no other drug that provides a more mysterious experience than pure DMT. Things that live contain DMT, that's the key to it all, it is firmly tethered to the web of life outstretching into the cosmos. Such as shrooms (4-oh-dmt [psilocin], and 4-po-dmt [psilocybin]) and all the vines that contain 5-meo-dmt and n,n-dmt. Recently in a rats brain they found DMT. This is why it feels like it's meant for us, and why we get so much out of experiencing it. It hasn't been proved it's in our brain yet, but I guarantee it is.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: paperbackwriter] * 1
    #19912097 - 04/28/14 02:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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A healthy amount of skepticism is nice but the article is an obvious shot at one particular belief system, it's right in the title.




Exactly...

It presupposes right from the get-go that animism/spirits/etc are "myth". It fails to apply healthy skepticism and critical analysis to it's OWN perspective instead of just the ones it disagrees with.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Jot] * 1
    #19912106 - 04/28/14 02:28 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Think about it. Unless you’re a particle physicist in need of a creative jumpstart, an LSD session is unlikely to help you discover anything about the fabric of reality that stands up to scrutiny. It may feel otherwise — you may be absolutely convinced that your astral form has visited distant realms of heaven and hell, trawled through Pure Knowledge and Pure Love, and returned with lessons for humanity — but really, it’s all you. Other people explore their own internal realms, different from yours but equally valid.




Couched in wannabe language, much of this OP is simple BS, from somebody who hasn't really been there.  "Unlikely" "fabric of reality" "stands up to scrutiny" are weasel words from some kind of psychedelic weasel. Let them get close to what actually WORKS just one time and they'll sing a different song.  This screed sounds like something JoeMolloy might have written while depressed, but without his essential insight. :thumbdown:

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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #19912121 - 04/28/14 02:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

This piece, by our beloved Entropymancer (a fucking genius btw), is essential reading and I think the author would get a lot out of it (and also from some RAW):

A pragmatic approach: What is "real", and when is it actually useful to ask this?


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #19912142 - 04/28/14 02:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I expected this to spark up some criticism. :lol:
Of course, I didn't write this.

EDIT: I did like the link you provided, though I have no idea what should be beautiful about string theory or why anyone would believe in it.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #19912175 - 04/28/14 02:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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This piece, by our beloved Entropymancer (a fucking genius btw), is essential reading and I think the author would get a lot out of it (and also from some RAW):

A pragmatic approach: What is "real", and when is it actually useful to ask this?




Yeah, that's a fun thread.  Though solipsism has been falsified logically.  Check out the last comment :wink:

Still like his argument from pragmatism.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #19912352 - 04/28/14 03:19 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I have no idea what should be beautiful about string theory or why anyone would believe in it.




:ilold::thumbup:

Many people feel that way.

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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Lord_McLovin] * 1
    #19912379 - 04/28/14 03:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

what you or your chosen article is saying can be boiled down to — but really,
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it’s all you.




It is just a glorified form of 'you brain produces consciousness' and there is no consciousness out there

But you, nor science, knows that

So yours is AS much a belief system as someone who claims spirits are telling them to sacrifice someone

I admit that I question shamanistic tradition, but this doesn't mean I accept scientism which states 'the mind is in the skull' either

I have personally had OBEs and the second one particularly I encountered entities, and communicated with them and had dramatic encounter with them

You with psychology-speak want to say "oh that is your subconscious". But what does that even mean? Like I say science does not understand consciousness so be sure Psychology doesn't either

As well as archaic shamanistic tradition what is often overlooked is that there is a very ancient Goddess spiritual tradition of possession which is not 'all you' but all more-than-you which connects with the spiritual reality out there also

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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Jot]
    #19912479 - 04/28/14 03:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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However declaring that our brain is made up of the same patterns as the rest of the universe is, IMO, the very type of broad statement the post wants to avoid. I'm not saying I don't agree, I just think it is better to state it as more of an opinion rather than fact. I do hold the belief as well that the universe is made up of subtle patterns.




There is nothing opinion about it. The universe is nothing more than an abstraction of fundamental physical principles. This isn't stoner philosophy, this is what we actually know about the universe we live in. If you had the computational capacity and seemless understanding, you could even reduce your very personality to physical explanations. Thus, there IS a pattern at every level of existence which reflects a more fundamental behavior of matter. Abstract indeed. It's hard to observe your dog as the same unfolding consequence of universal motion as the stars in the sky, or the economy, etc. But it is, the same damned thing. Find the patterns in them and the rest unfolds. It doesn't mean you'll suddenly be enlightened with all the knowledge of the universe, but it certainly helps the visualization and determination of what's real.

tl;dr - quarks/fundamental energy never stops behaving as the things they are. no matter how complex their interactions make them, all things are the sum of their behaviors. thus all things behave with the same nature.

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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19912534 - 04/28/14 03:59 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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However declaring that our brain is made up of the same patterns as the rest of the universe is, IMO, the very type of broad statement the post wants to avoid. I'm not saying I don't agree, I just think it is better to state it as more of an opinion rather than fact. I do hold the belief as well that the universe is made up of subtle patterns.




There is nothing opinion about it. The universe is nothing more than an abstraction of fundamental physical principles. This isn't stoner philosophy, this is what we actually know about the universe we live in. If you had the computational capacity and seemless understanding, you could even reduce your very personality to physical explanations. Thus, there IS a pattern at every level of existence which reflects a more fundamental behavior of matter. Abstract indeed. It's hard to observe your dog as the same unfolding consequence of universal motion as the stars in the sky, or the economy, etc. But it is, the same damned thing. Find the patterns in them and the rest unfolds. It doesn't mean you'll suddenly be enlightened with all the knowledge of the universe, but it certainly helps the visualization and determination of what's real.

tl;dr - quarks/fundamental energy never stops behaving as the things they are. no matter how complex their interactions make them, all things are the sum of their behaviors. thus all things behave with the same nature.




Please cite your evidence proving that our brains are made up of the same patterns as the rest of the universe. Again, not saying I disagree, but there is no decisive proof that I know of making this claim fact. If there is proof I would love to see it, if not then it is your opinion and should be presented as such.


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Re: Are Entities and Plant Spirits Real? A Guide to Skeptical Tripping [Re: Jot]
    #19912739 - 04/28/14 04:44 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Jot said:
Please cite your evidence proving that our brains are made up of the same patterns as the rest of the universe. Again, not saying I disagree, but there is no decisive proof that I know of making this claim fact. If there is proof I would love to see it, if not then it is your option and should be presented as such.




There was a big explosion that set everything into motion.  That explosion is still happening.  Everything inside of that explosion is part of the pattern of that explosion.

There's really nothing to prove unless you're arguing that something outside of the explosion made our brains special.  In which case the burden of proof is really on you.


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