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 post your advanced setup
#1856552 - 08/27/03 08:58 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is a thread for posting pics of more advanced setups. A setup qualifies as "advanced" if it incorporates unique aspects that show inventiveness, and/or that eliminate routine maintenance.
Right... So let me run down an aquaintance's setup here. Just finished setting up the terrarium, so I snapped a pic with the camera I happened to bring along.
Here's what there is to it:
- Someone (we'll refer to as "The Operator") sits in the barely-visible recliner. This is the highest quality of lazy reclining pilot seats for any supreme setup. Any operator equipped with a seat this comfortable might as well just lay back, smoke, and chill...
- The Operator may glance at his trusty active control and logging computer (referred to here as the "PCBrains" of the operation), which is simply the pictured LCD monitor, with a mouse, to control the Operator's Program. The PCBrain is neatly tucked away behind the recliner, and includes a high-speed connection to the internet for remote control as well as a route to control the Other PC (the main one, that is, for everything else).
- The Operator may choose to tweak the Operator's Program, to ensure optimal conditions. The Operator may also view a logfile of conditions, for the past month, with his trusty Operator's Log Viewer.
- The PCBrains of the Operation is allowed to control a panel of four outlets. Only one has something plugged in, which happens to be that Ultrasonic Humidifier. The USH is turned on around 50% capacity for humidity.
- The PCBrain also powers two circulation fans. The one "intake" fan pipes clean fresh room air down into the tank. The long "outgo" pipe along the bottom has its air sucked through by the "out" fan.
- The "out" air, which should export carbon dioxide before anything else (as CO2 is heavy, falls to bottom), runs past the temperature and % relative humidity sensors before getting dumped into the room air.
- These accurate sensors stimulate The [infamous] Box, the heart of the automation system. Getting one of The Boxes for yourself is not an easy task, or so I hear.
- The Operator's Program periodically polls The Box, asking it how the sensors are doing. The Operator's Program then evaluates The Operator's customized routine to determine what action it will take.
- When it decides to (according to the Operator's custom program), The Operator's Program will have The Box power the UltraSonic Humidifier, which adds a smooth flow of humid air into the "intake" pipe.
- The Operator's Program continues this routine unattended, so The Operator can continue to watch his TV, surf his Web, sip his Soda, smoke his Blunt, or do whatever he pleases.
- Meanwhile, the Two Casings bask in perfect regulated humidity.
I designed this system for this aquaintance of mine, intending on making it fully automated while incorporating a good level of humidity, and very good air flow.
Hopefully this setup will get the juices flowing for others. Please post (with pics) comments on Your Advanced Setup.
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 Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1856808 - 08/27/03 09:43 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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DAMN! Thats a nice setup there! Did you write the program yourself? How do you go about hooking a USH and sensors to a PC?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: MrMaddHatter]
#1856947 - 08/27/03 10:14 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I personally wrote the software behind it. The Box takes care of interfacing. I designed a simple parallel port device to read the sensors, and circuitry to switch 120v outlets.
Anno gave me a section in the FAQ, but I haven't had a lot of time to update it recently. Shit, college is coming up in a few weeks and I'm starting to fill in my time and do that shit... uhh, "manage"... so I'll be redesigning everything.
Currently there's a list of people, and I can only do so many boxes. I'm going to rewrite the hardware design (although not everyone can assemble their own). I'll also attempt to make it easier to mass produce the design at a lower price, to make it available to more people.
The software end's ok, although I have really been wanting to get around to rewriting the whole interface software. I already started by making an ActiveX component in Visual Basic, which I'll make freely available (w/ source).
I'm going to sell the backend software that I write. This software will use that same ActiveX component, so any VB programmers out there could use this activex to build their own sensor monitoring / device controlling software.
I already have a current version of the software running well, using that ActiveX component. That ActiveX component is intended to make both the software end, and the hardware end, universal. The software can be coded for any wiring configuration or any number of devices.
Keep posted... I should be coming out with some new shit in the coming weeks. I'll be giving anyone who got a box through me a free copy of the new software, and I'll consider offering the older version for free. We'll see how things go.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1857496 - 08/28/03 12:45 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey poke, hehe how big is that fish tank? 30gal? 55gal?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ahel]
#1857501 - 08/28/03 12:47 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe you could hook me up with a parts list and the likes? very nice setup btw
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 Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1857924 - 08/28/03 04:03 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its funny, but, I think you'd have better results with simpiler techniques like having perlite and fanning/misting your casings! 
I've had problems with my "advanced" setups!
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: angryshroom]
#1858101 - 08/28/03 05:50 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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some folks get a kick out of doing things the hard way.
looks like a technophile's dream to me.
but yeah, it could be done alot simpler.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Hippie3]
#1858265 - 08/28/03 07:46 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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angryshroom and hippie, you're 100% correct. It's entirely possible to achieve excellent results without any of the pictured devices.
But I'm lazy. Plus I like toying with electronics and such.
I think the tank's a 90 gallon, I don't remember.
The box was designed because the RH sensor in mind is so accurate. I wanted to log the climate long-term, with good accuracy, and I also wanted to incorporate an ultrasonic humidifier into the mix.
By building the box, I could also write whatever kind of software I want behind the works. This is interesting to me, which is why I did it. Plus, it eliminates problems with getting the right setting on the USH, or having the right intermediate chambers to reduce the amount of mist.
The setup is complex, admittedly, and isn't an easy task for the electronics novice. But it's worth it to me, and has paid off through months of trouble-free usage.
btw alpha, parts and design are on a page that's linked from the shroomery FAQ.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1858337 - 08/28/03 08:30 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that's friggin' fantastic. Even if you're using some anonymous cophrophile  as a test mushroom, such a system [when properly calibrated/tweaked] would be great for experimenting with more finicky genera/species. Sweet!
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Suntzu]
#1858372 - 08/28/03 08:45 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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true. I designed the system, although the pic is of a setup that uses The Box. The Operator of the pictured Lazy-Gro system says the shrooms are there for show; he is adding more plants and reptiles shortly. I hear he's trying to utilize the plants giving off oxygen, and the reptiles eating those damn mushroom flies that keep popping up...
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1858412 - 08/28/03 09:05 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#1858425 - 08/28/03 09:11 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#1858436 - 08/28/03 09:18 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like the chamber, comario; The curved top is nice! What is it?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#1858452 - 08/28/03 09:25 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice chamber dude.
How do you control the temperature, or light for that matter?
I guess you probably don't need too where you live, or your friend lives for that matter, but if you could control it you would be able to fruit ANYTHING in your box. ANYTHING!!!!!
I built this semi-innovative terrarium for my oysters. I'll post a pic if I manage to borrow my friends camera.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Zildjian]
#1858459 - 08/28/03 09:30 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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suntzu: its the infamous "double D tent", from mushmagic
zildjan: wrong, it has both temp & humidity controls, and in fact it works wonders and i do in fact grow whatever i want in it
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#1860317 - 08/28/03 07:15 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thats a hell of a setup, if I could Id invest more money into mine... I just have to keep mine kinda low key. But, had the same thoughts about the computer controlling everything... For those of you who dont know HTML from C++, www.x-10.com has a wide range of supplies for remote lighting, temp control timer/remote for fans... Etc, Etc... Also great for hydroponics... Those HPS lights many people love need to be turned off when those black DEA plane fly over and thermal image your house... Bastards.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: IEatPi314]
#1860323 - 08/28/03 07:16 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry for the dubble post, but... Is there any way I could bum a copy of that program? Maybe a 10 day trial, share-ware version?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: IEatPi314]
#1860478 - 08/28/03 08:22 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry, all I can provide is a free test program to evaluate The Box's working condition. the program is also only intended for use with The Box, so there's no real use for it if you don't have the hardware.
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#1860886 - 08/28/03 10:02 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ]
#1861198 - 08/28/03 11:26 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea, but cleaning it would sure be a bitch.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Osker246]
#1861739 - 08/29/03 03:10 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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why grow more than you need? overkill IMO
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: DanKnugget]
#1861950 - 08/29/03 07:09 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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exactly... my friend said he wanted to be able to swap casings in and out like that. by working that ecosystem deal around those containers, new casings with the same container could be easily plopped in.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ]
#1861980 - 08/29/03 07:18 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
All of that for those two dinky little casings????? WHAT A WASTE!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't call it a waste. Some people enjoy tinkering with hardware, and by combining two interests, computer control and mycology, they get a lot more enjoyment out of their hobbies. I can understand that.
-Diploid
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Diploid]
#1862012 - 08/29/03 07:31 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Diploids got the idea. I really enjoy toying with the electronics end, and then writing software to operate it. I know a good deal about mycology, and although I do not grow myself I have someone test out my system with their grow.
IMO you can do bulk without it looking like bulk, anyhow.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1867685 - 08/31/03 02:47 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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yea dood unless you redesign the inside of that tank to accomodate a sea of casings rather than just 2
possibly even double layer that tank and grow on 2 levels?
then i think that would top off the l33tness of the design, because with just 2 casings?!?! it seems far from efficient
all else its fucking cool, you should go all fuckin out
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