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1st 2 grows B+ PF Tek/Mini Monos. GREATCAKEUPDATE!
    #16245204 - 05/17/12 03:17 PM (1 year, 14 hours ago)

Hey folks,

My first post; a few pics of my set up and B+ cakes:




Been in the SGFC for 1 week exactly, getting regular fan/mist love. I think I'm on course - I believe the below to be hyphal knots nearing pinning... you guys agree?



Now - before I did my homework properly and set up to follow the PF Tek; I was silly and spent big money on a pre-packaged 'kilo kit' from a well-known producer of such things. Regarde:



noc'ed up at the same time as my jars, this is taking longer to fully colonize, coz it's a big old lump of rather tightly packed, dryer, sub. The surface was covered a couple of days ago. My plan is to consolidate for another couple of days, then crumble it and use it to colonize a smallish monotub following the coir tech.

today i noticed a bluish-grey colouration on parts of the surface, pictured here:





Does this look like bruising, or a contam to you? I've been a bit rough with it - I flipped the lump over within the bag a few days ago because the bottom wasn't colonizing at all (probably silly - but it worked), and as i say, this mystery sub was extremely dry - even to begin with - so I'm hoping it's just bruising. What do you think, might my lofty monotub plan be scuppered?

***UPDATE 22/05***

Today I crumbled and spawned the bag to coir ala Damion5050's Tek into small (11 litre shoebox) doubletubs, using the tek Wronguy wrote up here (full credits in that link.

The substrate from the grow kit was pretty lame. nearly 2 weeks on from the surface being fully colonised - the core was still doughy and almost entirly myc-free. This is because it (whatever it is) is a very dry and dense block, with none of the 'fluff' necessary for good swift colonisation. Had I fruited this as the manufacturer suggested: by dumping a couple of spoonfulls of damp vermiculite on top of the block and sticking it in a humidity bag - i think the results would have been pretty poor, and the yield far from the 'kilo' promised.

So, it got crumbled into by prepared 'bottom' tubs:


Then mixed with my bucket-pasturised coir:


'top' tubs were taped on:


and the new guys joined their cakey cousins atop my wardrobe:


updates to follow once colonised (all being well - 5-10 days right?)

on the subject of the cakey cousins - they are starting to slightly vex me. They look super healthy and have hyphal knots and pillaring ago-go, but today is day 12 in the SGFC with not a pin to be seen:




I remain patient. Hope that the delay will make for a bumper crop and aware that my room (being in England) is probably a fair bit colder than is ideal (though Summer appears to have arrived today!). Your thoughts are welcome though...

**UPDATE 23/05: PIN PORN!!**

Turns out that my first couple of pins are actually pictured above, I just hadn't noticed them (most obvious at 2 o clock from centre of the cake on the right in my last pic). Think the 5 minutes in the sun had an effect (respect to LeopardMan) as overnight last night... BOOM!





[Charlie Sheen voice] PINNING!! :grin: absolutely delighted, more pics to follow.

While you're enjoying the porn - could anyone help with a quick monotub colonisation question:

I'm using a double tub method, so there's a non-airtight seal between the tubs. I've currently got all the holes duct taped up, and have the tubs loosely wrapped (not tied up) in trash bags (because they live next to my cakes' SGFC; I've got to be careful not to let any light at 'em). Do you think this setup will provide adequate GE, or shall I perhaps poyfill some, or all, of the holes for colonisation?

**UPDATE 24th MAY**

wow... just wow.

   

**UPDATE 27/05**

Harvested all 6 cakes; the highlight being THAT cake. Check it:

 

That cake alone was 45g fresh. The others were each circa 36g, for a total fresh first flush yield of 210g. Cakes a dunkin before 2nd flush fruiting, first lot in a desiccant box. Think Localgirl and I will see what these babies do early next week. Trip report to follow.

Thanks again to LM for help and encouragement.

What. A. Hobby. :grin:

Update 20/06/11:


After 3 weeks colonising (seemed to take a while - don't think my sub/coir ratio was optimum at all) the mini monotubs went into fruiting conditions on Tuesday and now look like the below.

I'm about to harvest the 3rd flush from my 6 cakes, which I suspect will be the last. All large, gnarly looking fruit, and only half a dozen or so per cake. Total yield from the cakes about 1.5 oz dry.




Edited by localboy (06/20/12 04:29 AM)


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: localboy]
    #16248598 - 05/18/12 04:48 AM (1 year, 39 minutes ago)

cheeky bump. think it's on account of the transatlantic time difference, my op didn't get viewed much :tongue:


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: localboy]
    #16248665 - 05/18/12 05:47 AM (11 months, 23 days ago)

I can't enlarge your pictures so I am not sure about that spot (upload them on the shroomery. Upper left of your screen, PICS>UPLOAD). Should be bruising but I wouldn't be 100% sure. Also you don't need to consolidate it if you are planning to crumble and spawn it. Your FC looks good though. You should see some pins in the next few days.


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #16249359 - 05/18/12 12:03 PM (11 months, 23 days ago)

Much obliged leopardman (you read peter matthiessen's 'the snow leopard' at all?), great advice on both the consolidation and the uploader. so; my monotub adventures can begin just as soon as my mail order coir arrives. i'll growlog that properly from the start.

will hopefully have PF pin porn to share soon then? :grin:

here's the full size images of the slightly worrying discolouration:





Edited by localboy (05/18/12 12:04 PM)


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: localboy]
    #16249375 - 05/18/12 12:09 PM (11 months, 23 days ago)

Those are looking healthy.


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: localboy]
    #16253020 - 05/19/12 06:12 AM (11 months, 22 days ago)

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Much obliged leopardman (you read peter matthiessen's 'the snow leopard' at all?)[/url]




You are welcome sir :hatsoff: I didn't read "the snow leopard" yet, but I am going to buy it on amazon today. Looks promising. Thank you for the suggestion. And the bag looks great, you are good to go.


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #16253029 - 05/19/12 06:23 AM (11 months, 22 days ago)

that bag looks great..:goodluck:


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: magic mycology]
    #16266429 - 05/22/12 08:12 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

cheeky bump - check out my minimono update!


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: localboy]
    #16266522 - 05/22/12 09:06 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

Looking good :thumbup: Those cakes do indeed look healthy. 12-14 days is not unusual for cakes but are you proving them with enough light? If so, you can try exposing them to DIRECT sunlight for about 5 mins every day. A few minutes of direct sunlight every day seem to work as an efficient pinning trigger.


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #16266548 - 05/22/12 09:20 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

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Looking good :thumbup: Those cakes do indeed look healthy. 12-14 days is not unusual for cakes but are you proving them with enough light?




Worth a try; got them sat in the rays as I type. They get no natural light at all usually; I work nights, so need it dark during the day. They get 12 hours of 6400k light from a fluorescent bulb laid right on top of the tub from 8pm-8am. Guess this might be part of the problem.


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: localboy]
    #16266563 - 05/22/12 09:25 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

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They get 12 hours of 6400k light from a fluorescent bulb laid right on top of the tub from 8pm-8am. Guess this might be part of the problem.




Natural sunlight is not required (I never used it) but sometimes it can help. What wattage is your bulb?
Oh and I forgot to mention that you don't have knots on your cakes yet (or better to say we can't see them from those pics). That odd growth you see on your cakes is just mycelial growth. Hyphal knots are much smaller.


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #16266590 - 05/22/12 09:42 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

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Natural sunlight is not required (I never used it) but sometimes it can help. What wattage is your bulb?
Oh and I forgot to mention that you don't have knots on your cakes yet (or better to say we can't see them from those pics). That odd growth you see on your cakes is just mycelial growth. Hyphal knots are much smaller.




The bulb's a 20w. I think there is some knotting there... as well as the big fuzzy lumps of myc; there's much smaller, more solid, pointy little growths.

Will give the 'few minutes in the sun' trick a try (since it looks like we're actually going to get some this week!), and just persevere misting and fanning. Thanks for all the advice.


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: localboy]
    #16266614 - 05/22/12 09:53 AM (11 months, 19 days ago)

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Will give the 'few minutes in the sun' trick a try (since it looks like we're actually going to get some this week!), and just persevere misting and fanning. Thanks for all the advice.




20w is good and your plan sounds perfect. Don't change a thing, except those 5-10 minutes in the sun and you'll have fruits in no time. Good luck :thumbup:


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Re: First grow (PICS): B+ PF Tek. Contam ruining plans for my 2nd grow...? [Re: LeopardMan]
    #16271911 - 05/23/12 09:51 AM (11 months, 18 days ago)

Bump for pin porn!


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Re: 1st 2 grows B+ PF Tek/Mini Monos. PIN PORN!! [Re: localboy]
    #16271943 - 05/23/12 10:08 AM (11 months, 18 days ago)

:congrats: You got a massive pinset on that cake :hatsoff:
If the tub is not airtight, you are fine (but if you want be 100% sure, put some polyfill in one of the holes you have taped).
There is no reason to colonize the tub in total darkness (that is outdated info). Some indirect (and not too intense) light can even be beneficial as RR stated many times before. Keeping them in total darkness is not detrimental though. Only it's not required.


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Re: 1st 2 grows B+ PF Tek/Mini Monos. PIN PORN!! [Re: LeopardMan]
    #16277177 - 05/24/12 09:01 AM (11 months, 17 days ago)

bump for more hardcore pin porn. next update will be harvest day in a few days. think the pics of THAT cake should be worth a look!


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Re: 1st 2 grows B+ PF Tek/Mini Monos. PIN PORN!! [Re: localboy]
    #16289160 - 05/26/12 08:55 PM (11 months, 15 days ago)

bump for pics of a cake i'm mighty proud of!


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Re: 1st 2 grows B+ PF Tek/Mini Monos. PIN PORN!! [Re: localboy]
    #16289521 - 05/26/12 10:30 PM (11 months, 15 days ago)

looks great :cheers:


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Re: 1st 2 grows B+ PF Tek/Mini Monos. PIN PORN!! [Re: reesesbut]
    #16289534 - 05/26/12 10:35 PM (11 months, 15 days ago)

Some fine cakes ya got there!


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Re: 1st 2 grows B+ PF Tek/Mini Monos. PIN PORN!! [Re: Doc_T]
    #16289539 - 05/26/12 10:37 PM (11 months, 15 days ago)

:whathesaid: ms or isolate?


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