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 Hippie-Trippy
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 Perpetual Energy 
#16185232 - 05/05/12 10:37 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I have a fucking great idea for unlimited energy. And it's all I can think about when I trip, which is as often as possible. Here's my question. Is such knowledge safe? I feel like people would kill to make sure that oil still fuels the world. 
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 This thread was moved from Science, Technology & Computers.
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The original post contains no substantial science-related topic. If you wish to seriously propose some mechanism or theory you may do so in the science forum provided you make a substantial scientific argument for your position.
I'm unsure where else to put this, either mental wellbeing forum or conspiracy, but it sounds like your concerned about nefarious groups persecuting you, so conspiracy forum it is. 
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 Re: Perpetual Energy (moved) [Re: johnm214]
#16185343 - 05/05/12 11:33 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Here's the thing. It works. Gravity does wonders. Water is a very useful.
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Seanfu
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I would expect that presenting practical alternatives in a readied way will get you shot at and will get your computers destroyed. To have the balls to do it is what none of our current scientists inventors and physicists have.
This is why we still rely on an exponentially increasing demand for oil that passed its bell curve decades ago and is on the verge of destroying our lives.
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Re: Perpetual Energy [Re: Seanfu]
#16185511 - 05/05/12 12:31 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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You should explain your perpetual energy device to us.
I'm curious
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Re: Perpetual Energy [Re: Seanfu]
#16185797 - 05/05/12 01:52 PM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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I would expect that presenting practical alternatives in a readied way will get you shot at and will get your computers destroyed.
No one is killing scientists who discover alternatives to oil.
I doubt that it was ever possible to suppress discoveries, but even if it was in the past, it no longer is due to the internet and tor.
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Hippie-Trippy
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I will put my device on the market soon enough I'm soon. From small scale testing I can create a miniature perpetual waterfall, and from that I would put some sort of electromagnetic motor (hoover dam style). Unlimited electricity from a perpetual waterfall.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Quote:
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I will put my device on the market soon enough I'm soon.
I don't think it is possible to build a device that violates the laws of physics to such a degree.
I really hope it works though. Praying that I am wrong...
I have another friend who got the idea for a perpetual energy device while under the influence of psychedelics. He is a physics student and dropped out of school to build his device.
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I'm taking classes again in the fall so I can do all the math a little better.
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Some amazing minds have dreamed of perpetual energy. Time and time again the law of conservation of energy has held up. and the ultimate conclusion of the 2nd law of thermondynamics is quite interesting. The Heat-Death of the Universe.
And If the laws of entropy are to be believd... while simultaneously believing that extra dimensional energy (the hutchinson effect) exists and can be harnessed. ....how do you plan to put that energy back? You just might be tapping into the clock of the universe itself. Entropy always wins.
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It actually just keeps the energy in motion. I am taking no energy from anything. I am simply using the constant of one flowing energy to make something spin. This is going to be one of my gifts to the world. Free, unlimited, energy.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Where does the energy come from?
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Seanfu
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Seanfu said:
I would expect that presenting practical alternatives in a readied way will get you shot at and will get your computers destroyed.
No one is killing scientists who discover alternatives to oil.
I doubt that it was ever possible to suppress discoveries, but even if it was in the past, it no longer is due to the internet and tor.
Murder or not look at Tesla, look at suppressed solar to hydrogen storage processing that could be used for all energy, look at hydrogen cars, look at all these suppressed advancements in the face of a soon ending cataclysmic death of oil reserves.
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HarveyWalbanger
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Quote:
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It actually just keeps the energy in motion.
You can't keep energy in motion. Entropy always wins.
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I am taking no energy from anything. I am simply using the constant of one flowing energy to make something spin.
You know what friction is by any chance?
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Re: Perpetual Energy [Re: Seanfu]
#16190198 - 05/06/12 02:21 PM (1 year, 15 days ago) |
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Murder or not look at Tesla
Tesla lived until he was 86 and died of a heart condition.
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look at suppressed solar to hydrogen storage processing
That technolgy is suppressed because it is commercially nonviable and there are better ways to store energy.
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look at hydrogen cars
Hydrogen cars will always be a bad idea due to the low energy storage density of hydrogen.
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look at all these suppressed advancements in the face of a soon ending cataclysmic death of oil reserves.
What suppressed advancements?
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The energy comes from the water flowing down. Gravity pulls the water from the top, and I have a device to bring the water from the bottom pool of the waterfall the top with no energy loss. The water flow is constant because gravity is constant. I would put [one of those hydrostatic motors under the waterfall, and that would produce my electricity.
In the world we live in today, I don't know how anyone can tell someone then CAN'T do something. Especially based on physics. The knowledge that humans have achieved is pathetic. We have made no advancement as a society in.... how many years? Why wouldn't perpetual energy exist? It's all around us in case nobody has noticed. Nature is very perpetual, and will never stop keeping herself alive.
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Like someone mentioned before, things like friction (and air resistance) are gonna stop the perfect and constant flow of water you would need to make that device.
Or what about the tiny droplets of water that would be left behind as the rest of the water goes over the waterfall? If you pour all the water out of a water bottle, not all of it comes out. In terms of a waterfall kind of device, not every drop of water will fall over any series of waterfalls or what ever you had in mind. That would be lost energy right there and you wouldnt be able to get those water droplets (energy) back until the rest of the water went all the way back to the start (and in that case I assume you need all of the energy in the system to get the water back up to the start)
I'm no physics genius by any means, but little things like friction, air resistance, and lost water are some issues you will somehow have to get around when designing this device.
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Yes, there are all these factors. That's why I have to take more classes in the fall. Lost droplets though.... that is actually an issue. My entire device was meant to be enclosed, maybe I will find a substance to keep water more coagulant, or something that doesn't separate as easily as water.
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Quote:
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Yes, there are all these factors. That's why I have to take more classes in the fall. Lost droplets though.... that is actually an issue. My entire device was meant to be enclosed, maybe I will find a substance to keep water more coagulant, or something that doesn't separate as easily as water.
FACT: It will take more energy to transport the water from the pool below to the top than you get out of the wheel attached to a generator...
This is true no matter what you do...
Even leaving the wheel out...if you could harness 100% of the energy of the falling water (impossible) it still wouldn't be enough to lift the water back to the top AND overcome the friction of the tube or whatever you're transporting the water in...
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I rest my case. I will continue my research as I educate myself.
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