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was Jesus human?
    #16170449 - 05/02/12 10:40 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

he obviously was to some point because he's referred to as the Son of Man, but he was also conceived of God. so what species does that make Him


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: whatsgrimace] * 1
    #16170456 - 05/02/12 10:41 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Jesus is just as human as the archetypes that gave birth to the story.


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: whatsgrimace] * 1
    #16170460 - 05/02/12 10:42 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

From a non-christian standpoint he was human at most. i say that because there's no certainty that he ever even existed.


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: GuruBushHippie]
    #16170507 - 05/02/12 10:53 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: GuruBushHippie]
    #16171357 - 05/02/12 01:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

From my scholarly endeavors, I do believe that Christ was a human.

From all that I have studied, you really don't see the modern magical non-human Jesus until after Emperor Constantine (Saint Constantine :rolleyes:) adopted Christianity and his son made it the official religion of Rome, and the first council of Nicea was appointed (A lot of these new head bishops and what not being generals and politicians if I remember correctly :facepalm:) And a new more secularized, Roman relevant version of the religion was established.
(By all means, the Emperor himself was always thought to literally be a God and was worshiped, so they couldn't go around worshiping some mere mortal.)

I'd say do your homework (Like, really do your homework.) and formulate your own educated opinion. :thumbup:


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #16171619 - 05/02/12 02:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Human or divine, being as well known as the Bible claims him to be then it would make sense that there was some record of his life between birth and his 30's when he really started his teachings. We know nothing about his childhood for certain except that he may have studied carpentry.


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: GuruBushHippie]
    #16173734 - 05/02/12 09:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Am I wrong to say that there are verified historical records from well reputable historians that a man was crucified for claiming to be divine, around the time Jesus should have existed? I thought I remember learning something along those lines in a world religion class I took


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: kjv1993] * 1
    #16173746 - 05/02/12 09:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Here's the body of christ.



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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: Hashbuble]
    #16173766 - 05/02/12 09:12 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Wait a sec I'll just go find out for you.


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: whatsgrimace]
    #16174476 - 05/02/12 11:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

clearly, he was a raptor


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: whatsgrimace] * 1
    #16174659 - 05/02/12 11:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Depends on your denomination. Some believe he literally was God (not the son of god but literally god himself), others believe that he was entirely divine and the son of god (0% human), some believe that he wasn't even physical and that the physical manifestation of jesus was just an illusion (less than 0% human 100% divine), some believe that he was the son of god and partially divine (maybe 50% human), and finally some believe that he wasn't divine at all but was still the son of god (100% human).

All of those are actual things believed by different Christian denominations, and I haven't even listed all of the different interpretations...

Edited by nooneman (05/02/12 11:47 PM)

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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: Hashbuble]
    #16175728 - 05/03/12 08:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:rofldrunk: That song was amazing!

I came very close to spitting out beer!  :hank:


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: kjv1993]
    #16175732 - 05/03/12 08:23 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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kjv1993 said:
Am I wrong to say that there are verified historical records from well reputable historians that a man was crucified for claiming to be divine, around the time Jesus should have existed? I thought I remember learning something along those lines in a world religion class I took



Do you have a source on the matter? :Prisoner1:


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: whatsgrimace]
    #16179995 - 05/04/12 01:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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whatsgrimace said:
he obviously was to some point because he's referred to as the Son of Man, but he was also conceived of God. so what species does that make Him



I personally think it was metaphorical to describe him as the sun, literally. Not the son like a child, but the sun like the giant star in the center of our solar system.

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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #16181100 - 05/04/12 10:50 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

he's human, humans can be anything we want to be, including God


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: g00ru]
    #16181260 - 05/04/12 11:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_of_God

Since we were created in his image and Jesus is perfect and humans are not, he must have created a bunch of extra shitty versions of himself. I can see it now "What if I make goo run out of their nose endlessly during the summer? muah-ha-ha!"


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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: 1ve5w4hu]
    #16184583 - 05/05/12 01:31 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

How does the infinite and formless create something in it's image?

It creates duality with intelligence, thoughts, emotions, life.

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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: cbub]
    #16184591 - 05/05/12 01:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

On the idea that god created man in his own image, I interpret it as god being this universe, and humans being bound by the physics of this universe.

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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #16185149 - 05/05/12 07:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Jesus is human

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Re: was Jesus human? [Re: Bush_Doc]
    #16190179 - 05/06/12 12:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yes i agree Jesus was a man


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