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invitro pinning before full consolidation
    #16142799 - 04/26/12 02:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

hi everyone!

I started 4 brf jar 30 days ago, they reached full colonisation last sunday planning to birth them next monday.

this morning I saw what I tought was black lil contam spot develop into pins, should I birth them now even tho they are consolidating for only 3-4days or wait till monday??

ALSO, some of those 'pins' are only really black lil ball a bit darker than the other pin and no beige stem, could they be abort? what should I do with them??

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16143032 - 04/26/12 03:46 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

hard to tell without pics, how long have the cakes been pinning? could be aborts/rot


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: MOPE]
    #16143080 - 04/26/12 03:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

be careful with black contams

I read that they can be pretty toxic

look it up


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: MOPE]
    #16143081 - 04/26/12 03:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

wait. definitely wait.

Just a hunch, but does it smell like bananas and grass clippings? I'm guessing it's a bac contam. You'll still get your mushroom fix, so don't worry. Next time pay careful attention to moisture content of your cakes. I prefer them a little bit on the dry side.


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: maug]
    #16143094 - 04/26/12 04:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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wait. definitely wait.

Just a hunch, but does it smell like bananas and grass clippings? I'm guessing it's a bac contam. You'll still get your mushroom fix, so don't worry. Next time pay careful attention to moisture content of your cakes. I prefer them a little bit on the dry side.




yeah I fucked the water content a bit on the more side but I figured my mystake now.

it's still in the jar but I don't smell anything through the GE holes.

I'll try and get a pic

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: MOPE]
    #16143134 - 04/26/12 04:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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hard to tell without pics, how long have the cakes been pinning? could be aborts/rot




hard to say the lil dot appeared a few day ago, by the size it is now I'd guess it started to look like pins yesterday?



see the dark blob?
the weird color of the myc is really just the light/pic

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16143144 - 04/26/12 04:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

is that a fat cap pressed against the glass?


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Zulu The Most High]
    #16143186 - 04/26/12 04:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

it doesnt look like it, I don't see any 'stem' like the others in the jar its just a blob.

there's an other one like that but way smaller in an other jar that's also pinning

edit: I must go now but I'll check back later for any reply

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16143215 - 04/26/12 04:28 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

It looks pretty colonized. how's the bottom?


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: maug]
    #16143622 - 04/26/12 06:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

seems like a contamination imo

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: maug]
    #16145080 - 04/26/12 11:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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It looks pretty colonized. how's the bottom?




bottom looks fine

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16145463 - 04/27/12 01:06 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ohhhh... I misread that. I thought you said colonization, not consolidation. It's already consolidated. Mushrooms, like plants or animals, grow on their own timeline. Especially multispore. Looks like it's time to birth, dunk, and roll.


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: maug]
    #16146040 - 04/27/12 07:36 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

let's say everything smell mushy and nice when i open it, what should I do with that blob? leave it there or cut it?

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16146798 - 04/27/12 12:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Leave it. You'll only hurt it if it comes off. You'll need to be gentle with it so nothing falls off too. Often the first pins turn into the biggest mushrooms too.


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: maug]
    #16146966 - 04/27/12 01:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

So youre going to open it up?

Any idea what that thing is yet?


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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Zulu The Most High]
    #16147436 - 04/27/12 03:10 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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So youre going to open it up?

Any idea what that thing is yet?




yeah I'll birth my 4 cakes tommorow, cluster are exploding everywhere

I have no idea but I'll only toss if it smell funky or develop into something that is clearly a contam, or if enough knowledgable people here  tell me to do so before tomorow morning.

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16147471 - 04/27/12 03:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

You should dunk today. 24hr kinda thing ya know?

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16147476 - 04/27/12 03:18 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I would dunk today. 24hr kinda thing ya know? but that's just me

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Galidor4]
    #16284106 - 05/25/12 04:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

FUCK

my new batch of jars is also doing this, I can't believe it. I had so much trouble getting them out last month they all blued heavily and one of them I had to tear a chunk out to get it out :mad2:

now they also look like they did not colonize the whole cake there's like a steady 1/8" uncolonize at the top of them all. maybe the top just dried for some reason??

here's the worst offender

would you call that a stalled jar, can it stall yet still pin?

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Re: invitro pinning before full consolidation [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #16284119 - 05/25/12 04:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Bro, I don't birth until I see invitros like that. birth that baby!

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