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VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate
    #15893771 - 03/03/12 08:13 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate
March 3, 2012 - Associated Press

Vice President Joe Biden heads to Latin America this Sunday amid unprecedented pressure from political and business leaders to talk about something U.S. officials have no interest in debating: decriminalizing drugs.

Presidents of Costa Rica, Guatemala, El Salvador, Colombia and Mexico, all grappling with the extremely violent fallout of a failing drug war, have said in recent weeks they'd like to open up the discussion of legalizing drugs. Argentina, Uruguay, Peru and Mexico already allow the use of small amounts of marijuana for personal consumption, while political leaders from Brazil and Colombia are discussing alternatives to locking up drug users.

Business leaders are weighing in as well: in February, a group of banking, medical and legal experts sponsored a drug policy conference in Mexico City which concluded that current drug control policies aren't working and need reform.

"It's a different moment when you have actual heads of state talking about the need for a thorough debate on this," said John Walsh, a drug policy expert at the Washington Office on Latin America, an independent think tank. "It's certainly different for sitting presidents to be uttering those words. You wouldn't have thought it possible just a few years ago."

Dan Restrepo, the top Latin America official in the White House, briefing reporters about Biden's upcoming trip, said the vice president does expect a "robust conversation" about the security problems Latin American countries face as drug traffickers battle to control the lucrative U.S. sales. But he said Latin American leaders shouldn't expect a shift in policy.

"The Obama administration has been quite clear in our opposition to decriminalization or legalization of illicit drugs," said Restrepo.

Biden is scheduled to arrive in Mexico City on Sunday to discuss economic and security issues with Mexican President Felipe Calderon. He also plans to meet Monday with the three top Mexican presidential candidates running for a six-year term to replace Calderon this year.

On Tuesday Biden is slated to travel to Honduras to meet President Porfirio Lobo, along with the presidents of El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica and Guatemala, all countries struggling with the sweeping consequences of expanding drug cartels. Drug gangs have killed tens of thousands, overcrowded prisons are overflowing with accused drug users while powerful cartels fuel corruption — influencing elections, weakening democracies and threatening fragile economies.

"I do think that the issue of legalization will be raised by the leaders to Biden, but in private," said Walter McKay, a policing expert on security issues in Mexico, where more than 47,500 people have been killed in drug gang violence since 2006.

Two weeks ago, Guatemala's president Otto Perez Molina, a right wing conservative and former army general, stunned observers when he declared the U.S. inability to cut illegal drug consumption leaves his country with no option but to consider legalizing the use and transport of drugs. He vowed to galvanize regional support.

Since then, Costa Rican President Laura Chinchilla and Funes have said they're open to the discussion, while Panama's leaders say they do not agree with decriminalizing drugs.

For decades Latin Americans leaders and the U.S. have cooperated on a war on drugs, with more than a trillion dollars spent by the U.S. to support enforcement and eradication in Latin America, as well as promises to reduce cocaine, marijuana and methamphetamine use in the U.S. that generates an estimated $25 billion in profits each year.

But during that time, demand for drugs has increased, fueling violent competition between dealers.

In 2009, former presidents of Mexico, Brazil and Colombia blasted the war on drugs and said it was time to consider the decriminalization of marijuana. Last summer they were joined by more than a dozen high level international leaders including former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and former U.S. officials George P. Shultz and Paul Volcker, again slamming the war on drugs as a failure and calling on governments to undertake experiments to decriminalize the use of drugs, especially marijuana, to undermine the power of organized crime.

But while it's one thing for former presidents to suggest decriminalizing drugs, it is another thing entirely when sitting presidents do so, said retired Brazilian judge Maria Lucia Karam in an email to The Associated Press.

Karam said that while Latin American leaders at first may have been willing to give the "get tough" strategy time to work, they've been worn down by the drug war's relentless toll.

"The public comments we are seeing are a sign of deep frustration and anger that is now prevalent in Latin America due to the U.S. and U.N.'s seeming unwillingness to engage in a serious debate about implementing effective drug policies that respect human rights and truly protect health," she said.

Danny Kushlick, who heads the London-based Transform Drug Policy Foundation, said the region is "on the verge of a tipping point that will begin when the Latin Americans raise the issue within earshot and in full view of the Americans. Ultimately this is about allowing democratic conversations to take place without being leaned upon by the U.S."

But former U.S. drug czar John Walters said those who are calling for a debate on legalization are taking a dangerous and misguided step.

"I would note to them that the kind of dangerous people they face would welcome that change, to become more powerful," he said. "Legalizing is not a solution, it's an excuse."

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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: veggie]
    #15893812 - 03/03/12 08:35 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

There is no debate to be had - using processed plants as recreational drugs is the peoples right. Legalize now!


Money = power. The drug war increases prices 100 times more. Should we make farming and capitalism illegal and ban politicians from taking money? Fuck you John Walters you drug war profiteer. Lets make that a yes on the latter and no on the former.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: dondoodle]
    #15894888 - 03/03/12 02:39 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

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"I would note to them that the kind of dangerous people they face would welcome that change, to become more powerful," he said.




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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: bigmike7104]
    #15895939 - 03/03/12 06:49 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

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"I would note to them that the kind of dangerous people they face would welcome that change, to become more powerful," he said.




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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: withoutawire]
    #15896005 - 03/03/12 07:03 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

There is no debate. Make people responsible for their own choices, and they won't be a drain.

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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: veggie]
    #15905537 - 03/05/12 07:30 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

In Mexico, Biden shoots down talk of drug legalization
March 5, 2012 - McClatchy Newspapers

MEXICO CITY — Vice President Joseph Biden said Monday that "there is no possibility" that Washington would heed a growing call by some Latin American presidents to move toward drug legalization.

Biden, on a two-day swing to Mexico and Central America, said a sour mood over violence from powerful narcotics mafias has led to a desire in some corners of Latin America to debate legalization.

"It warrants a discussion. It's totally legitimate for this to be raised," Biden said, adding that he'd spent "thousands of hours" at Senate hearings over the issue.

But Biden said that even if drug legalization might have benefits like reducing prison populations, it also would engender health problems, expand drug usage and even create bureaucracies for drug distribution.

"It impacts on a country's productivity. It impacts on the health costs of that country. It impacts on mortality rates. It's worth discussing," Biden told a group of journalists. "But there is no possibility that the Obama-Biden administration will change its policy on legalization."

On Tuesday, Biden travels to Honduras, where his aides promise a "robust" working lunch discussion with Central American presidents - several of whom support alternative policies, including drug legalization, to deflate powerful drug gangs that have turned the isthmus into the most murderous region on the planet.

The calls for debate on legalization amount to a cry for help from countries battling the menace of Mexican and Colombian drug gangs moving into Central America.

Leading the charge is a surprising paladin: right-wing Guatemalan President Otto Perez Molina, who surprised Washington after his inauguration two months ago with diplomatic efforts to rally support for a legalization debate.

His posture has garnered support, including from Costa Rican President Laura Chinchilla, who said the issue should no longer be taboo.

"Central America has the right to debate and the right to discuss this as long as it is done with rigor and seriousness, and that is the intention," Chinchilla said last Wednesday after meeting with Perez Molina's envoy, Vice President Roxana Baldetti.

Perez Molina and Chinchilla will be at Tuesday's lunch with Biden, along with presidents of El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama.

Some political analysts suspect that Perez Molina, a former military intelligence chief, pushes an issue that remains largely anathema in U.S. politics to capture Washington's attention, ignoring the practical implications of such a policy swing at home.

"Can you imagine? Eighty percent of Guatemalans are not in favor of decriminalizing drugs. How would a government push such an unpopular measure?" asked Raquel Zelaya, an economist at the Asies think tank in Guatemala City.

Yet some regional leaders - Mexican President Felipe Calderon prominent among them - voice deepening frustration at high U.S. drug demand, flows of drug profits and weapons southward, and the seeming contradiction between American pressure for harsh suppression measures in Latin America while, in the United States, a growing number of states permit medical marijuana.

On Monday, Biden met Calderon for two hours and later interviewed the three leading candidates vying to replace him in elections scheduled for July 1.

Last week, speaking to attorneys general and defense ministers from around the hemisphere, Calderon said that Mexico has captured 22 of its 37 most-wanted criminals, seized 562 aircraft, and done its share in battling drug cartels.

But unless the United States urgently slashes the flow of profits for drug gangs, or cuts back on domestic drug use, it should implement "alternative public policies" on narcotics, Calderon said. The reference to legalization was oblique, as Calderon is wary of endangering U.S. counter-drug support under Plan Merida, an umbrella aid plan for $1.6 billion.

Despite Biden's emphatic rejection of moves toward legalization, analysts of counter-drug policy say policymakers in Washington may no longer be able to halt demand for broader discussions.

"What's clear is that for the U.S. to continue to say, 'There is no debate and discussion to be had. It's a settled matter' - that won't fly anymore," said John Walsh, drug policy program coordinator at the Washington Office on Latin America, a social justice and human rights advocacy group.

Demands to address failures in U.S.-designed counter-drug policies have been stimulated, ironically, by the posture of Washington's closest ally in the region - President Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia, who said last fall that he would welcome discussion about legalization but would be "crucified" if he led the charge.

Santos, head of a South American coca-growing country that has paid a heavy toll for battling drug cartels over three decades, will host the April 14-15 Summit of the Americas in Cartagena, Colombia, and has indicated counter-drug strategies should be debated then.

President Barack Obama is expected to attend the summit.

In Mexico and throughout Central America, people are growing weary of the death tolls from organized crime.

Mexico has tallied more than 50,000 murders since late 2006, and the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime said in October that murder rates in Honduras and El Salvador are the highest in the world, putting Central America at "a crisis point."

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    #15906652 - 03/05/12 10:45 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: veggie]
    #15907192 - 03/06/12 12:37 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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veggie said:

"It impacts on a country's productivity."





This is what America is afraid of.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: BoldAsLove] * 1
    #15907284 - 03/06/12 01:18 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

:trololol:  Obama's administration is "open to discussion" but 100% will not consider legalization.  Seems pretty open to discussion to me. :thumbdown:


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #15907495 - 03/06/12 03:12 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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BoldAsLove said:
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veggie said:

"It impacts on a country's productivity."





This is what America is afraid of.




Yes the USA government, plutocrats and corporations all fear that other countries will be productive producers of marijuana, coca and opium products.

What they also fearis that the police state/prison industrial complex/dominationoftheglobe  in this country and around the world will start to come crumbling down.

They are right to be scared because when we the people destroy the drug war the ground for real social revolution will be ready to be planted for total social revolution.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #15908165 - 03/06/12 09:06 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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Despite Biden's emphatic rejection of moves toward legalization, analysts of counter-drug policy say policymakers in Washington may no longer be able to halt demand for broader discussions.

"What's clear is that for the U.S. to continue to say, 'There is no debate and discussion to be had. It's a settled matter' - that won't fly anymore," said John Walsh, drug policy program coordinator at the Washington Office on Latin America, a social justice and human rights advocacy group.




That is the important development.

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veggie said:

"It impacts on a country's productivity."





This is what America is afraid of.




This is 0% of the reason why we have illegalized drugs; that is a joke.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: All We Perceive]
    #15908243 - 03/06/12 09:36 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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:trololol:  Obama's administration is "open to discussion" but 100% will not consider legalization.  Seems pretty open to discussion to me. :thumbdown:




Obama can't legalize anything...he doesn't make laws.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: Enlil]
    #15908302 - 03/06/12 09:52 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Thanks for the civics lesson.  I did not suggest that he did.  :deepman:


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: All We Perceive]
    #15908315 - 03/06/12 09:56 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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Thanks for the civics lesson.  I did not suggest that he did.  :deepman:




You're welcome.  Just doing my part.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: veggie]
    #15910495 - 03/06/12 06:34 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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Two weeks ago, Guatemala's president Otto Perez Molina, a right wing conservative and former army general, stunned observers when he declared the U.S. inability to cut illegal drug consumption leaves his country with no option but to consider legalizing the use and transport of drugs.




It must be nice living in a country with a president who has courage and balls of steel.  Something we Americans haven't seen in quite a few decades.

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But former U.S. drug czar John Walters said those who are calling for a debate on legalization are taking a dangerous and misguided step.

"I would note to them that the kind of dangerous people they face would welcome that change, to become more powerful," he said.




Actually it's the other way around.  One of the cartel head honchos personally thanked the US for continuing drug prohibition.  You legalize drugs and the cartels' income will be severely crippled.  Unfortunately, the leaders of our country have sat around with their heads in the sand for so long that these cartels are already filthy rich from decades of prohibition.

What a sick and depraved human John Walters is, or any person who blindly supports prohibition for that matter.  We've had 40 years of nothing but failure.  It's time to admit the policy was a bad experiment, apologize to the public for all the lives that have been destroyed in the name of the drug war and move on.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: SuperD]
    #15910752 - 03/06/12 07:19 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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Actually it's the other way around.  One of the cartel head honchos personally thanked the US for continuing drug prohibition.  You legalize drugs and the cartels' income will be severely crippled.  Unfortunately, the leaders of our country have sat around with their heads in the sand for so long that these cartels are already filthy rich from decades of prohibition.

What a sick and depraved human John Walters is, or any person who blindly supports prohibition for that matter.  We've had 40 years of nothing but failure.  It's time to admit the policy was a bad experiment, apologize to the public for all the lives that have been destroyed in the name of the drug war and move on.




His support of prohibition is not blind in the slightest; a few profit immensely from prohibition as you well know, including our own government :shrug:

What REALLY makes the situation so crazy is how the benefits of legalization would be felt by ALL; ass opposed to the benefits of prohibition (health care industry, private prison industry, police industry, ect) being felt by only a few.


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #15911964 - 03/06/12 11:20 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

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veggie said:
"It impacts on a country's productivity."




biden is letting slip a crucial fact ..the drug war is a gift to the 1%...

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It impacts on the health costs of that country.




that..OTOH..is a valid concern...i would agree with biden that legalizing drugs prolly will push inflationary pressure on healthcare costs..and we dont know how much...


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: Annapurna1]
    #15912716 - 03/07/12 06:01 AM (12 years, 24 days ago)

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that..OTOH..is a valid concern...i would agree with biden that legalizing drugs prolly will push inflationary pressure on healthcare costs..and we dont know how much...




That is ridiculous. Its nothing but a guess, hearsay even. What would make you think that, where is the evidence? If the use of illegal "drugs" lead to higher health costs....don't you think we would already be experiencing that, since drugs being illegal never stopped a single person from doing them?! It never has and never will; Americans are pill popping dope smoking speeder-popping crack heads

:lmafo:

but seriously, your wrong


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #15912850 - 03/07/12 07:08 AM (12 years, 24 days ago)

Remember when all drugs were legal and society collapsed?


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Re: VP Biden goes to Latin American amid drug debate [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15913183 - 03/07/12 09:41 AM (12 years, 24 days ago)

I love when I try to argue drug legalization with people, and all their arguments sound good to them but are nothing more than assumptions(ie, if drugs are legal, more people will use them; children will start using meth; etc.) All you have to do is bring up the example of Portugal, discussion over.


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