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Anonymous said:
You know what I Love about you cateyes?  Your ego, for being so massive, is so easily afflicted.

2 questions:

Are you really a grown man?

and..

Do you act like an immature pseudo-intellectual 16yr old that has misplaced his ADHD meds in real life; or is that reserved for you online persona exclusively?

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my ego is in check bro... your the one with the issues here, unwilling to accept the reality of our situation so you resort to adhoms as an anon...  this takes real courage to express yourself not only behind the anonymity of the internet but behind an anonymous post... i mean you can't even be your fucking self! i'm pretty much who i am here as i am in real life and i get along quite well with others dude... you probably have boat loads of real life issues if you're so unwilling to wrap your head around what is really happening out in the real world.

you are the pseudo-intellectual throwing around economic data as if you know what you're talking about! and from a fucking coin collecting site to boot!

you're turning out to be quite the loser in life following me around from forum to forum... what a headcase you're turning out to be.  i'm your mission ion life though you don't have the balls to do it in the open...  just how pathetic are you in real life?  exactly what is it you have actually achieved that you have to force yourself to accept the real things going on in life?

do you hide under your bed so the boogy man doesn't see you too? you bring up theater tickets as evidence that the video was off base and claim foods have come down in price but fail to name just one... from what i understand candy bars have come down in price... is this the food you're talking about?  because on my little shopping trip/test a can of tuna went from .99 cents to $1.79 and this is just one of as number of extreme examples...

pathetic internet troll... Mr hide behind the anon...  why are anons are allowed to post in this forum is beyond me...  i can understand mental health where people may feel ashamed or embarrassed to identify themselves... do you feel any embarrassment what so ever hiding like a little child, do you feel any shame?  you know what would be really weird about you?  if you're actually nice to me in the open, this would demonstrate some very strange psychological pathology, almost psychopathic... no, not psychopathic as psychopaths are generally intelligent where a sociopath generally lacks an education...  a know it all economist!!! 

(edit) and try not to confuse a total sense of confidence with arrogance dude...

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This is actually the first time we've interacted in any forum.  In my original reply to you, as i stated, I wassnt trying to be a smart ass.  I had a real and honest curiosity about what I brought up.  However, your pride is so easily hurt that you couldn't answere my questions (you did by the way) without putting me down.

If this is how you present yourself IRL, it's not surprising that your the dude on the roof fixing the AC of one my buildings.  You could obviously never be a professional *inside of one.

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one of YOUR buildings huh? just one? i have a masters degree in mechanical engineering from Rutgers University, i'm on the roof when i want to be on the roof. i help spec and sell equipment, i'm capable of selling and have sold service. i'm qualified to actually service... i'm an expert in and have worked on and completely overhauled Murray condensing steam turbines up to 12,000 horse power on open drive compressors including couple alignment... i'm factory trained and authorized to service and install Woodward electronic governors on power plant equipment. i've worked on stand alone AC/Refrigeration systems rated over 7000 tons, i have expertise in cascade systems down to 180 degrees below zero. i know centrifugals(including overhauling), absorbers, semi hermetics, advanced roof tops, air handling systems, cargocaire dehumidifiers . i'm not an expert in but have a good knowledge of energy management systems. i provide advice on questionable installations, i commission new systems, i have done and can do energy surveys.... i can go on and on man... why are you making me qualify myself? i'm not on your roof... you're calling me for advice...

i'm just another dude who is really concerned about our situation and choose not to stick my head in the sand.  i don't buy the inflation numbers as i've already pointed out just a few things i've managed to put together regarding a inflation thread i plan to put up...  you tell me why food, fuel and commodities like cotton aren't included in the inflation numbers any longer? why is it everything not included in the numbers has risen steeply? i've posted shit here that no one has commented on and i provided links to back up every single thing i was saying at the time... where you one of them? i posted information that the real unemployment numbers are around 22% and include those marginally employed and those who have no jobs and who have fallen off the radar completely due to no longer being statistics on the unemployment roles and i provided plenty of links to support the data...  recently i even pointed out that my subscription to the economist stated unemployment numbers in January were off because even they had it wrong when they said actual unemployment is between 15-16% because for some strange reason they are only including those on the unemployment roles and those marginally employed...  they are not counting those who are not even marginally employed who fell off of the unemployment roles long ago claiming it was impossible to really qualify the numbers...  only one person actually commented on one of my posts and they merely posted a link to a rense article, not that i'm really into rense, but they were confirming the real reason why we invaded Iraq which was to slam Saddam for beginning to trade Iraq's oil based on the euro in place of the dollar... everyone wants to do this, Christ, even Saudi Arabia is considering a basket of currencies as the real answer now... we bombed the shit out of Gaddafi for the same reason!!! both China and Russia have stated publically in the UN they will stand behind Iran during this crisis...  in this thread i pointed out the real reason why we did cash for clunkers which was because the Chinese refused to lend us any more money... they wanted and received all of our scrap metal for their growing economy... China has already worked out barter deals with Iran long ago in anticipation to the upcoming oil crisis we're about to experience.  nobody wants to touch the dollar... China sold all of it's dollars by buying assets of undeveloped countries with them... i listen to any one of the 3 c-span channels when i'm home at my desk and c-span 2 has what they call the nostalgia speeches or something along those lines and the speeches that old crazy dude ross perot are classic as he describes in great detail what is going to happen to the US as jobs are lost due to perverse trade agreements like nafta and cafta and all of the other funny acronyms... he described it as a huge sucking sound and boy was he ever right. the strange thing regarding ross perot was he and his son were awarded the contract to control ware houses that are used to stage products entering the US from south america...  i wonder what that was all about? a way to shut him and his son up?  i was very young then but what do we make that the world wants from us other then bombs and planes worth bullshit because they require multiple hours of a maintenance CREW for several hours of fly time... and speaking of bombs...  why did bush approve the sale of a critical company that produced the magnets needed for our smart bombs to China?  i can dig up the link if you need it... why allow the sale of a critical aspect of our most important weapons system to someone who will own us one day?  i realize i'm going off on a tangent by deviating from economics but really...  why did the bush administration approve such a deal?

like i've already said, i don't buy into the statistics regarding economic numbers, i completely rely on other sources of information. like tarp for instance, tarp originally cost us 700 billion they said, then it was 1. 2 trillion and then Bloomberg financial reporter Robert Pittman and Bob Irvy discovered the real liabilities of the bank bailouts  were actually 12.8 TRILLION dollars.  Pittman actually sued the federal reserve after they declined to reveal the actual numbers and federal judges found in Bloombergs favor but Ben Bernanke refused to open the books.  multiple judges ruled in Bloombergs favor and now the decision hinges on the supreme court actually hearing the case which from what i understand isn't even up on it's plate to hear...  and not to go off on another tangent but c-span wants to install cameras in the supreme court but the majority of the supreme court judges completely oppose this idea...  why? anyway, here's a link to one of my favorite sites for information...  it's an interview of Bob Irvy discussing the nature of their discoveries regarding the actual bailout liabilities... the woman doing the interview is Allison Stewart from the PBS news show Need To Know on every Friday early evening here where i live... it's a very brief article with the video in the body of the article.  i posted this in the political forum about 1-2 months ago and no one really touched the details with a ten foot pole...

Steadfast Finances: TARP 18x: the Unknown Bailout that Requires a Supreme Court Ruling for Full Disclosure

awesome website... and before i left work i did several things including sending Bob Irvy a second email asking him to please get back to me with all of the details regarding how this money was actually distributed. what percentage was just promised, what percentage was loaned and what percentage was actually awarded as an out right grant.  i explained to him that i'm trying to express how significant the problems of the bank bailout actually was to a group who believe in fairy tails...

the neat deal the fed worked out for itself in the current Dodd/Frank law is the fed has up to 2 years to disclose who it lends to and what the actual amounts of each new loan are... when i actually watch Bernanke give testimony lately and he's been very busy giving testimony lately, he never answers the questions to the point each member of the panel get openly frustrated but Bernanke just sits there with this weird smile on his face... he's worse then Greenspan was recently while answering questions regarding his fuck ups... Bernanke did admit that US banks have been lending money to European central banks, but when pressed on what banks are receiving what, Bernanke says "i have no way of knowing that answer... and speaking of loans, economists being interviewed on a web based radio network said many things this past few weeks regarding big banks... for instance, Goldman Sachs has given its smaller banks instructions not to lend to small business yet Goldman Sachs transferred 700 billion dollars into Chinese bank accounts in order to be able to invest in China...  this was a strict policy that the Chinese required in order to not get screwed by Goldman and Goldman gladly transferred the money. OUR MONEY...  they will not lend to American small business but they are more then willing to invest in China...

another issue the economists raised that i pointed out in this thread is that the fed has been quietly pumping up to 100 billion dollars into the US economy each month for the past two years.. i asked Irvy about this too as i don't want to completely rely on several economists who independently reported this on PRN... 

do you know what i think is really odd regarding this fed/supreme court/bloomberg news bullshit that bothers me the most? it's that this lie that Pittman and Irvy are spreading hasn't gotten the slightest bit of attention in main stream press.  no major news network discusses the lie that is making it's way all the way to the supreme court... the fucking nerve Pittman and Irvy have demanding that the fed reveal nothing... that there is nothing to hide... that the fed just doesn't want to open it's books, so there!!! 12.8 TRILLION dollars!!! it's little wonder the supreme court is dragging it's ass to hear this case... it's little wonder they don't want camera's recording this decision they will eventually be forced to make... YAY c-span!!!!!

and then we have derivatives which no one even discusses any longer yet were a serious issue during congressional hearings.  the last time i actually looked into this which was many months ago the estimate s ranged between 200 trillion to 600 trillion dollars which the reporter claimed was more then the net worth of the entire world... who's on the hook when these schemes go sour? the last time i heard the US tax payer covers every loss of every US bank... between a can of tuna fish going up from $.99 to $1.79, the loss of every significant manufacturing job, the real costs of the bank bailouts and the fact that Ben can defy federal courts rulings... why even try to explain myself to all of you.. i have so many other issues i can bring up...  if we weren't able to print money out of thin air we would have been third world decades ago according to stratfor. eventually the US will be like many areas throughout south america...  they'll be the rich less the 1%, a very tiny, if at all existent middle class and a extremely dominant  level of poor...  like i said, i have plenty more i can say y but i'm really hoping that Irvy reaches out to me, because i explained to him how important this is to me...

and in politics i asked everyone to buy and read THIS BOOK... by economist Jeffrey G. Madrick that was awhile ago and not one single person has come up to me yet and said "cateyes, this little known economist is full of shit!"  well i shouldn't say little known because he might not be in the spotlight all of the time but he has the real respect of many out there... maybe it was because it's almost 500 pages long...  maybe it's because it doesn't have pictures in it...  but the author said it all started when the french were trying to force Nixon to pay them in gold for their investment in the US... they wanted their money due to the fact they were worried about the debt the US was taking on during its war in Viet Nam... didn't we bail out the french in Viet Nam? fucking french!!! give me an order of freedom fries!!!   yeah anon 2... why don't you read this book and tell me where the author got it wrong because the book is a series of interviews of the men who actually played a role in these decisions that led us to where we are today... this is part of where i've been coming up with these hair brain ideas of mine...  this is where my dad gets his ideas from... this is what stratfor has been saying for decades...

you know...  i have several friends who are new agers and they are constantly telling me not to worry that a new day is about to dawn and that all of man kind is close to becoming fully enlightened...  i talk to the great spirit every night, i worry where my nation will be in the future...  i think about the grandfather i never met who gave his life on some fucking beach to liberate the world so that we could deal with this bullshit... maybe their right and a new day will dawn... maybe i should stick my head up my ass and hope that there is a brighter future for the entire world... you know what anon #2?  every banker who has committed any crime should be executed like they do in China... if we actually held just one accountable the rest would have thought twice about shitting in our nest... are you going to purchase the book anon?



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meams said:
wow cateyes, you wrote so much.  not only did i not take the time to read it.  but i didnt even take the time to skim it.


learn to condense your thoughts - it will go a long way in debates such as these.

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qman said:
Cateyes, good stuff!!

By my calculations, 1100 lbs of silver is worth around, $590,000, very impressive, what was your average price?  in what form? 

I think you might enjoy a interview on King World News, by Jim Sinclair, it just came out today, talking about what you just posted. Check it out, let me know what you think.

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thank you qman... my wife actually handled the entire trans action under the guidance of our friend. i just looked at the paperwork and the price we bought in at was $9.21 and we purchased it in what is called 1000 grain ingots plus there was a minor transaction fee...

wow, what can i say regarding that interview... i'm actually embarrassed to say i'm not familiar with him but i'm sure my dad is. he has been invested in a number of gold mining stocks for awhile now, which ones i'll have to ask him when he get's back from his road trip as i'm not really positive but i know for a fact their cost to mine an ounce and potential per mine are always a factor with him...

i have to be totally honest with you man, that was the most depressing interview i've heard in like forever... i bookmarked the website and will definitely turn my dad onto it but like i've said, i'm sure he knows who he is because gold has always been my fathers pet hobby, so to speak...  and it's really queer that meams claimed he couldn't be bothered reading my post when i thought the goal was to make a point... how can one make a point in a sound bite? the real irony is meams is one of the people i was referring to in the post!!!   he was part of the group in that forum...  one of the ones i invited to read the book, but if he can't wrap his head around my post how can anyone expect him to read 500 pages of economic history...  i honestly don't know if he's the one i was talking about who needs pictures, there were so many people into it at the time...

i actually expected things to look good until after the election to be honest but things have deteriorated so badly i guess... i wonder if this will effect the election in any way? want to hear something really weird?  i just got a bulletin regarding a number of issues and one of them is the real possibility that Hilary Clinton may be the next head of the world bank!  

for those who are interested here is the link to qman's post...


goodnight qman, and thank you for the website...


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meams said:
wow cateyes, you wrote so much.  not only did i not take the time to read it.  but i didnt even take the time to skim it.


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bambi...  don't take this personally but you mock yourself... did you read anything i had to say in my post?  was i clear enough for you?  did i explain things for you little boo boo... do you know what derivatives are? you should because they are about to kick you square in the teeth...  hopefully your in a position to pay off your home so that you can call it your own at least... and there is so much other shit on my mind, i just got fucking tired typing because i know half of you will not read or will say you didn't read my shit!!!

you need sound bites?  US dollar = toilet paper...

let's see what type of response this last post of mine gets...  i suspect this may be the last time we here from anonymous #2...  at least bambi had the courage to debate openly...  i bet you anonymous #2 is a janitor or something like that, not that there's anything wrong with being a janitor, it's just that i remember the janitor from my high school saying stop putting stickers on HIS lockers!!!  

his roof!!!  i've read stories where people were jumping off of roofs during the last great depression...


Kensho <----- brother from another planet...  maybe there will be some sort of outside intervention or enlightenment will occur in 2012...  maybe my friends are right about this...  tell me bambi... do you believe in new age religion? can you expand on this for me?  they all went to Jerome Arizona last year and i didn't take them up on their offer to join them...  they said it was a lot of fun and there were many representatives from the native American Indian culture there.  now there is one culture i have deep respect for bambi...  i used to be a christian till i discovered all of the really fucked up people in the world, the ones who did the most horrible things claimed they were Christians...  Jesus is very cool in my book but that fucking book, the bible that is, was written by evil bishops of the early roman catholic church, ironically during the very final stages of the roman empire!!!!  i started my own religion...  it's called PanTaoBu...  i'm its first profit and the cool thing about it is anyone can be its prophet...  it's a combination of Pantheism, Taoism and a dash of Buddhism without any of the empty the mind or do away with the ego bullshit!!  when i think about it for a second it's actually quite compatible with new age...  Hmmmmmm....  tell me bambi, are you new age too?  is this why you're hopeful? if it is, i have some respect for this as i love my friends for trying there best to help me/make me feel more upbeat about things...