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Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death * 1
    #15801675 - 02/13/12 04:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Tony Bennett says legalize drugs
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Legendary singer Tony Bennett urged the U.S. government to legalize drugs at a tribute to singer Whitney Houston Saturday night.

Houston died suddenly on Saturday afternoon at age 48.

"First it was Michael Jackson, then Amy Winehouse, now, the magnificent Whitney Houston," he is quoted as saying in the Hollywood Reporter. "I'd like every person in this room to campaign to legalize drugs.

"Let's legalize drugs like they did in Amsterdam," said Bennett, who battled drug addiction in the late 70s. "No one's hiding or sneaking around corners to get it. They go to a doctor to get it."

While not legalizing drugs, several European countries have recently decriminalized them with great success. A ten-year program enacted in Portugal that treats offenders as patients, offering therapy and rehab instead of jail time, has shown hard drug and intravenous users have fallen by half. Overdoses and HIV infections have also fallen dramatically. Penalties for drug dealers and traffickers are unchanged in Portugal.

Houston, who died suddenly on Saturday night at the age of 48, admitted to falling into cocaine and marijuana use during her marriage to fellow R&B star Bobby Brown. Although claiming to have fully recovered before her untimely death, it was rumored she was still abusing drugs. No official cause of death has been found as of this writing.

Houston had been scheduled to appear at the pre-Grammy Awards party - which quickly turned into a tribute to her - before her death.

Bennett went on to perform How Do You Keep the Music Playing in honour of the singer who fought a long, public fight with drug addiction.

"This is a song Frank Sinatra asked me to sing," Bennett told the crowd. "I'd like to dedicate it to Whitney. When I first heard her, I called (producer) Clive Davis and said, 'You finally found the greatest singer I've ever heard in my life.'"

Davis, who had first discovered Houston and became a mentor to the singer, said it was time to celebrate her life.

“Simply put, Whitney would have wanted the music to go on and her family asked that we carry on,” he said.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: veggie]
    #15801693 - 02/13/12 04:42 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

>>Houston had been scheduled to appear at the pre-Grammy Awards party - which quickly turned into a tribute to her - before her death.<<

Nothing fishy about that.

Conspiracy theories are intersting.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: yabbahabba] * 1
    #15801951 - 02/13/12 07:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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yabbahabba said:
>>Houston had been scheduled to appear at the pre-Grammy Awards party - which quickly turned into a tribute to her - before her death.<<

Nothing fishy about that.

Conspiracy theories are intersting.



Quote:

yabbahabba said:
>>Houston had been scheduled to appear at the pre-Grammy Awards party - which quickly turned into a tribute to her - before her death.<<

Nothing fishy about that.

Conspiracy theories are intersting.




Hollyweird. Maybe it was Bobby's prerogative.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: yabbahabba]
    #15801963 - 02/13/12 08:02 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

yabbahabba said:
>>Houston had been scheduled to appear at the pre-Grammy Awards party - which quickly turned into a tribute to her - before her death.<<

Nothing fishy about that.

Conspiracy theories are intersting.




This is far from a conspiracy. Whitney had a good voice and she was a rich celebrity, big deal. News of her death spread, so the execs just made a few phone calls and arranged for a dedication. Not so far fetched.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: Jessica Swift]
    #15802028 - 02/13/12 08:36 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

She's been smoking crack and abusing alcohol for many years. There is no conspiracy, she just didn't give half a shit about her mental and physical health.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: BA142]
    #15802231 - 02/13/12 10:01 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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"Let's legalize drugs like they did in Amsterdam," said Bennett, who battled drug addiction in the late 70s.




First of all, he did not say that in the video and second it is wrong. 'Drugs' are not legalized in Amsterdam, personal use is decriminalized. There's a huge difference.


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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15802375 - 02/13/12 10:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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"Let's legalize drugs like they did in Amsterdam," said Bennett, who battled drug addiction in the late 70s.




First of all, he did not say that in the video and second it is wrong. 'Drugs' are not legalized in Amsterdam, personal use is decriminalized. There's a huge difference.




Thank you for pointing that out... Stupid non-sensical statement.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: Beanhead]
    #15802545 - 02/13/12 11:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Cocaine and marijuana. :nonono: i know where this is gonna end up


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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: King Klick]
    #15805704 - 02/13/12 09:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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They go to a doctor to get it.




What happens when the doctor says the patient has had enough.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: King Klick]
    #15806385 - 02/13/12 11:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Legal Drugs mean you can get Legal Help without being arrested for having an addiction you don't want.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: guest1]
    #15806409 - 02/13/12 11:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

but I can already get crack..


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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: orison]
    #15806427 - 02/14/12 12:03 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Crack is whack


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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: Beanhead]
    #15810085 - 02/14/12 07:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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"Let's legalize drugs like they did in Amsterdam," said Bennett, who battled drug addiction in the late 70s.




First of all, he did not say that in the video and second it is wrong. 'Drugs' are not legalized in Amsterdam, personal use is decriminalized. There's a huge difference.




Thank you for pointing that out... Stupid non-sensical statement.




Tony Bennett clearly doesn't know what he's talking about...

On the bright side, a celebrity is calling for an end to drug prohibition.  People are sheep and some will listen.  Hopefully this will have a positive impact on our culture and society.


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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: Society]
    #15813204 - 02/15/12 11:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You would theoretically be getting help, according the doctor's terms -- like when a bartender "helps" you. People still get alcohol poisoning, rant, rave, tear up my street, and, when it's all over, try to sell me their crappy wristwatch in front of the liquor store.

Also, notice that alcohol remains under prohibition. The number of people allowed to produce and sell is so limited that revenuers still go on escapades, and prices are unnecessarily inflated.

It's like saying that salt was legal, in the days of Gandhi's Salt March, and that the legality of it somehow preempted overindulgence.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: durian_2008]
    #15813978 - 02/15/12 03:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Legalizing drugs won't prevent abuse


Whitney Houston had a long and public struggle with drugs, legal and illegal.

Editor's note: William J. Bennett, a CNN contributor, is the author of "The Book of Man: Readings on the Path to Manhood." He was U.S. secretary of education from 1985 to 1988 and director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President George H.W. Bush.

(CNN) -- On the evening of Whitney Houston's death, renowned recording artist Tony Bennett told the audience of Clive Davis' Beverly Hills party, "First it was Michael Jackson, then it was Amy Winehouse, and now, the magnificent Whitney Houston. I'd like to have every gentleman and lady in this room commit themselves to get our government to legalize drugs -- so they'll have to get it through a doctor, not to some gangsters who just sell it under the table."

Bennett's idiotic comments were followed closely by the often original, but in this case mistaken, Arianna Huffington.

On Monday morning's edition of "CNN Starting Point With Soledad O'Brien," she agreed with Bennett: "The point I think is absolutely fair -- that the war on drugs has failed, and we are not acknowledging it. We are spending over $50 billion a year fighting a war that has become a war on our own people."

First, we do not know the immediate cause of Houston's death. But we do know that she had a long and public struggle with drugs, both legal and illegal. But legalizing drugs and making them more readily available would not have saved her life, or the life of Michael Jackson, or the thousands of other drug-related deaths each year.

Lest Tony Bennett forget, Michael Jackson died from acute propofol intoxication administered to him by a doctor.

Amy Winehouse died from alcohol poisoning -- a legal, easily available substance.

A fatal combination of painkillers, sleeping pills and anti-depressants -- all legal prescription drugs -- killed Heath Ledger.

Brittany Murphy died from multiple drug intoxications (only prescription and over-the-counter medications according to the medical exam) combined with pneumonia.

And Anna Nicole Smith overdosed on prescription and over-the-counter drugs.

All these drugs are legal and prescribed by doctors. Contrary to what Tony Bennett and other legalizers would like to think, legalization does not prevent the abuse and misuse of drugs. In fact, it accelerates it.

According to the Office of National Drug Control Policy, prescription drug abuse is the nation's fastest-growing drug problem. In 2007, there were 28,000 deaths from prescription drug overdoses. This is five times higher than the number in 1990. More people die in America every year from prescription drug abuse (i.e., legal and available drugs) than from heroin and cocaine combined.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that the number of deaths from prescription narcotics increased fourfold over the past 10 years. This coincided with a fourfold increase in the number of prescriptions written for powerful painkillers. Legalization increases supply and when you increase supply, you increase the use and misuse of deadly drugs.

As for Bennett's envy of Amsterdam, he should realize that its legalization experiment has backfired. With the legalization of marijuana came an increase in drug addictions and dependency followed by illegal drug trafficking, human trafficking and crime. After a rapid influx of organized crime, the Netherlands has announced that it will ban foreigners from the country's pot shops starting in 2013.

Drug decriminalization in Portugal has also been a failure.

As of 2007, Portugal was still the country with the most cases of injected drug related AIDS, and it was the only European country to show a significant increase in homicides from 2001 to 2006.

"With 219 deaths by drug 'overdose' a year, Portugal has one of the worst records, reporting more than one death every two days. Along with Greece, Austria and Finland, Portugal is one of the countries that recorded an increase in drug overdose by over 30% in 2005," according to the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction.

Bennett and Huffington's misguided solutions would result in more tragic deaths like Houston's. Illicit drugs are not harmful because they are illegal, they are illegal precisely because they are harmful. It is my hope that in the national dialogue surrounding Houston's death, our country's loudest voices would speak honestly and seriously about the drug problems in America.

In the 1980s and '90s, the U.S. beat back the cocaine and heroine epidemics, not by legalization or decriminalization, but by tough law enforcement, strong prevention and education programs and public outcry. You could hardly watch TV without seeing the Partnership For a Drug-Free America's famous "This is your brain on drugs" advertisements. If we are to be successful today, we must reignite that same national effort.

Whitney Houston's mother, Cissy Houston, understood the seriousness of drug abuse. In a 2009 interview with Oprah Winfrey, Houston recalled how her mother showed up one day at her doorstep with sheriff's officers and a court order in a drug intervention.

"(My mother) says, 'I have a court (injunction) here,' " Houston said. "Either you do it my way, or we're just not going to do this at all. We are both going to go on TV, and you're going to retire.'"

If more Americans, celebrities in particular, spoke and acted like Cissy Houston, rather than like Bennett or Huffington, fewer Americans would be victims to drug addiction.


The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of William J. Bennett.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/15/opinion/bennett-whitney-drugs/index.html

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: aj123] * 1
    #15814006 - 02/15/12 03:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

And a different point of view ...

Tony Bennett Is Right -- Legalizing Drugs Would Save Lives
February 15, 2012 - Reuters
By Neill Franklin & Katharine Celentano

"First it was Michael Jackson, then it was Amy Winehouse and now the magnificent Whitney Houston. I'd like to have every gentleman and lady in this room commit themselves to get our government to legalize drugs. So they have to get it through a doctor, not just some gangsters that sell it under the table."

That's what Tony Bennett said at a pre-Grammy Awards party on Saturday night, shortly after learning of the tragic death of Whitney Houston, and he's exactly right.

One of us (Neill) is a former police officer who fought -- and lost friends -- on the front lines of the failed "war on drugs." The other (Katharine) learned about the commonality of human pain in another difficult way -- spending two years in a residential facility ("rehab"). She wasn't there for drugs, but many of those struggling alongside her were.

There has been some confusion and criticism over Bennett's remarks and, because of our experience dealing with the pain and heartbreak of drug abuse and harmful drug laws, we feel compelled to expand upon his heartfelt remarks in the hopes that we can help break through some of the misunderstanding underlying the reaction to what Bennett said.

Bennett is an addict in long-term recovery in his own right -- once nearly dying from an overdose. Regardless of whether Houston's death ends up being shown to be caused by drugs, it's understandable he would be moved by her long-term struggle with drugs and by the recent series of other drug-related celebrity deaths.

Some of those criticizing Bennett's remarks don't seem to understand the role that prohibition of some drugs plays in stigmatizing all people battling addiction -- whether to legal or illegal drugs -- and how punitive drug laws create roadblocks to recovery.

For example: "Bennett's remarks were misleading because in every case he mentioned we are talking about legal prescription drugs or alcohol," addiction specialist Marty Ferrero told Fox News.

"No, sorry. She got legal drugs from her doctor," said songwriter Diane Warren. "So that was inappropriate," she told the Los Angeles Times.

These well-meaning folks sadly miss the point. It doesn't matter if you're hooked on alcohol, Xanax or illegal drugs like heroin and cocaine -- prohibition for some drugs stigmatizes all people struggling with addiction.

Period.

Addicts are not defined simply by their drug of choice nor the drug that is or is not their ultimate cause of death. Their entire lives are tragically plagued by the stigma that criminalization heaps upon them, and the marginalized underworld prohibition thrusts them into.

That is a painful and deadly component of the experience of anyone unlucky enough to live with a disease that, unlike cancer, our government tries to battle with handcuffs.

Maer Roshan of TheFix.com -- a great news source on addiction and recovery issues -- rightly explains, "We can't tackle this epidemic in a piecemeal kind of way. At detoxes and rehabs across the country, prescription pill addicts and alcoholics and meth-heads and coke-heads all share the same plight, and suffer from the same scatter-shot treatment."

We wonder how easy it is for others to understand the isolating nature of living with any mental illness, much less addiction. Katharine watched a presidential election and inauguration from inside a rehab facility. Through the window of Facebook, she watched her high school class mature into adulthood, making friends at college, holding new nieces. She stopped receiving mail from all but a select few friends. She questioned her compatibility with a world that viewed her to be so foreign.

One day, a friend of Katharine's with a decent chunk of clean and sober time received a call about the relapse of a family member. Despite his recent success in working his program and making amends, he was labeled as blameworthy, his influence criminal. It seemed that his confidence faltered under the weight of such hurtful words. That is the moment when efforts to overcome and all the clean and sober time in the world still can never be enough to wash away the stigma of "criminal."

This blame-directing and stigmatization is a significant obstacle in recovery. Many addicts come to view themselves as innately "criminal." That label limits their perception of not only their practical options, but their fundamental worth as human beings.

So there we were. In the shadowy underworld of stigma.

These sorts of flashes of memory circulating in the collective consciousness of the recovery community haunt us. They linger just below the surface, and that's why when Tony Bennett cried out in catharsis, we were already right there with him. That anguished exasperation is why we care, and why we want no more of our loved ones to succumb to the weight of that word. The "criminal" label makes addiction, a deadly disease, ever more fatal.

For all Katharine's isolation, the addicts had it worse. At least her illness, her existence, wasn't illegal. A mess of laws divided her from her peers, both conceptually and -- upon arrest -- literally. Even addicts themselves were fragmented into illegal addicts or legal addicts, or for those who used cocaine and alcohol, both.

The people we've lost were not monsters. They were and are worthy of love and respect. They still remain central inspirations to us, encouraging us to excel and be better human beings. They are our hearts, not our tormentors. Prohibition is our tormentor.

When Tony Bennett pleaded for legalization in a moment of grief, he took his influence and effectively celebrated the dignity of the ghosts that so many others live with, of the mothers, daughters, fathers, sons, brothers, sisters and friends of millions of Americans who are our first kisses, parents, friends and heartbreaks. He confirmed their humanity and reminded us it's worth fighting for.

And he reminded us that recovery is possible. That recovery is about hope, not demonization. And that sadly, an addict committed to procuring drugs -- legal or illegal -- will find a way.

Thinking otherwise is simply trying to exert control over things that we cannot change. He asked for our courage. And I think we'd be wise to listen.

It's heartening to hear drug policy officials in the Obama administration proclaim that drug abuse is a health problem that requires a balanced strategy and that "we cannot arrest or incarcerate our way out of a problem this complex."

But let's do and not just say it.

We appreciate that in President Obama's just-released 2013 budget request, the administration appears to finally be shifting some resources away from punishment and towards treatment and recovery. But it's not happening fast enough, and the fact that far more resources are still being devoted to supply-side strategies like arrest, incarceration and interdiction, as compared to demand reduction strategies like access to treatment, is simply unconscionable.

Despite Obama officials' rhetoric about transforming our drug control strategy into one that recognizes addiction as the disease it is, this administration is spending more money on failed law enforcement approaches to drug control than the Bush administration ever did.

So, despite what Obama drug czar Gil Kerlikowske says, this is still a war. And it always will be as long as there's a gaping hole between glowing rhetoric and the harsh reality of the drug control budget.

So how do we move forward?

Tony Bennett, during his emotional remarks, suggested we should look to Amsterdam for answers: "Let's legalize drugs like they did in Amsterdam. No one's hiding or sneaking around corners to get it. They go to a doctor to get it."

While it is true that in the Netherlands, like in much of Europe, drugs are treated as much more of a health than a crime issue, no country has yet "legalized" these drugs. In Amsterdam, the government does tolerate storefront sales of marijuana, but they don't in any way actually control and regulate its production, and they don't control the other "drugs of abuse" either.

There is a growing call by leaders across Europe and in Latin America for a move away from prohibition and toward regulation, but many countries are afraid to move ahead of the United States on this issue.

So here in America we must continue to speak out and slowly but surely change the debate surrounding this issue. As Russell Brand did after we lost Amy Winehouse, Tony Bennett has shown that it is possible to speak about reforming drug laws in a way that resonates with people. With their help, and hopefully with the help of all the other ladies and gentlemen in the room at the pre-Grammys party, we can and will remove the criminal stigmatization for people struggling with addiction.

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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: veggie]
    #15815364 - 02/15/12 07:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

^^wow, that was beautiful. Touching. And so true.

:congrats:Neill Franklin & Katharine Celentano:congrats:


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Re: Tony Bennett Calls for Drug Legalization in Wake of Whitney Houston's Death [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #15815396 - 02/15/12 07:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh my fucking god; check this out guys.

I went to the Reuters article, because I wanted to check out the comments from this story. This is what I saw in the comments:

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This discussion is now closed. We welcome comments on our articles for a limited period after their publication.




The date of publication is Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:25pm EST

There were 0 comments listed, and nothing was viewable.




So I go the the "most commented on" article, clearly viewable on the page. It is

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Obama proposes $800 million in aid for "Arab Spring"




I go to the comments, and there are 248 comments, all readable.

When was it published?
WASHINGTON | Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:39pm EST


I am absolutely disgusted by Routers right now :mad2:


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