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 Bundy
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 Mental well being - Schizophrenic - delusion? 
#15772540 - 02/07/12 09:00 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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This is odd.
I was diagnosed Schizophrenic like a year and a half ago. Most of you know that.
Anywho. When a Schizophrenic is in a delusive state doesn't that mean they don't know it?
So my question, cause I'm quite lost.
I'm scared to death to drive, because of the car accident I was in ( never actually in one ) but when I go to drive I vision the car accident, and then I either force myself to drive, or back out.
I know there was no accident, but my mind doesn't want me to think like that?
What's happening here?
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 bigmike7104
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 Re: Mental well being - Schizophrenic - delusion? [Re: Bundy]
#15772600 - 02/07/12 09:35 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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maybe your just really afraid of getting in a car accident, and you convinced yourself that you were in one to justify that fear, and when you say you vision the car accident your really vision a future accident you believe you will get into?
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Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
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Bundy
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Re: Mental well being - Schizophrenic - delusion? [Re: bigmike7104]
#15772624 - 02/07/12 09:46 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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bigmike7104 said:
and when you say you vision the car accident your really vision a future accident you believe you will get into?
No, I never feel like I pro-see the future.
I ain't no prophet.  ( sorry, sublime pun )
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Seuss
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Re: Mental well being - Schizophrenic - delusion? [Re: Bundy]
#15772825 - 02/07/12 10:54 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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> When a Schizophrenic is in a delusive state doesn't that mean they don't know it?
Yes, but there is a lot more to schizophrenia than delusions. Anxiety and depression are both commonly found in people with schizophrenia. Remember, schizophrenia effects cognition, thus normal thought processes get screwed up. You can end up with anxiety over something that has happened in a delusional state, understand that the thing never happened, yet be unable to control the anxiety.
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Re: Mental well being - Schizophrenic - delusion? [Re: Bundy]
#15772946 - 02/07/12 11:17 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Bundy said:
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bigmike7104 said:
and when you say you vision the car accident your really vision a future accident you believe you will get into?
No, I never feel like I pro-see the future.
I ain't no prophet. ( sorry, sublime pun )
lol i don't mean seeing exactly how the future will go, but imagining and worrying how the future might go.
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Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines
Edited by bigmike7104 (02/07/12 11:18 AM)
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cateyes
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 Re: Mental well being - Schizophrenic - delusion? [Re: Bundy]
#15774214 - 02/07/12 04:44 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Bundy said:
When a Schizophrenic is in a delusive state doesn't that mean they don't know it?
not necessarily... first off, there are many mental illnesses that can involve delusional thinking or delusions themselves, including personality disorders. if you can rationalize that your train of thought is bizarre or irrational, then this is delusional thinking where someone could challenge you and you can come to terms with what they are saying... for instance there were lengths of time where you could think you're god but when a family member points out why you're not god and you say something like yeah, you're right or it hits you on your own that this is queer thinking, then it can be considered delusional thinking. with pure delusions or pure delusional thinking the individual is so caught up in the delusion they believe the entire experience is real and nothing anyone says can reach them. like you with your voices for instance, you seem to be able to see that they are not real, so your voices don't feed pure delusions. now if you believed they were spirits or aliens and no one could reach you with the truth then the voices will feed an ongoing delusion... does this make any sense to you? i hope it does...
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So my question, cause I'm quite lost.
I'm scared to death to drive, because of the car accident I was in ( never actually in one ) but when I go to drive I vision the car accident, and then I either force myself to drive, or back out.
I know there was no accident, but my mind doesn't want me to think like that?
What's happening here?
delusional thinking is happening here because you qualified it by saying this:
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( never actually in one )
you realize that this is irrational because you said i think this even though i was never in one! now if i knew you in real life and knew that you were never in an accident yet you insist you were, then that would be a serious delusion... you're very much in touch which is a very good sign Bundy... what you are experiencing is considered irrational delusional thinking and it's turning out to be much then i realized after listening to others, like bipolars with psychosis... this is exactly how it all started for me personally. i remember the day specifically because i was working on a turbine and saw a group of men i considered good friends talking together and one happened to look in my direction and smiled at me and right away i began to think, why are they talking about me? what are they saying? but within minutes i was able to say to myself that was pretty fucked up thinking but as time went on the delusional thinking was replaced by pure delusions where i began to believe that not only were they talking about me they were plotting against me. it was at that point red flags started going off in everyone around me but i was so caught up in it when someone pointed out how irrational the thinking was i began to believe they were in on it!!! shortly afterwords i finally had my first serious psychotic break that required a two plus week hospitalization. at that point in time i was already in the process and unofficially declared a psychotic bipolar but as time passed i was formally diagnosed with schizoeffective bipolar type.
if you look at my earlier posts here i swore i was being poisoned by a company i worked for... my early PM's too Workman and Anno, both experienced mycologists... i was seriously fucked up and my poor wife, family and friends were all frightened as all hell... i completely disappeared for years from this server, it was only until i was able to pull it together that this place became important to me again... i'm cool now as you already know through our conversations, it's easy Bundy, it's fucking easy... like i said, i'll try to help you whatever way i can but there may come a time when no one can reach you which is why you have to act now!
in my opinion, you're not experiencing true full cognitive impairment, you are at this point in time a irrational, delusional thinker who experiences severe hallucinations... were you gone for a few days? i didn't see your posts here, maybe i just missed what you were putting out there... anyways, i hope i help shed some light on things...
PeaCe2U Bundy...
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