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 spoonbomb
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 ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse 
#15716846 - 01/25/12 03:05 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Its being signed tomorrow 
This video explains it all.
It extends a lot further than the realms of the internet.
It will stop people in poorer countries having access to cheap generic drugs, forcing them to go untreated or to try and pay for expensive branded medicines.
ISPs will be legally required to monitor all information that we see or use on the internet to check for copyrighted material.
I don't know much about this (I only just found out about it) so anybody who does please add information.
I think its already too late. 
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: spoonbomb]
#15716894 - 01/25/12 03:13 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Obummer talked about it in his address last night. Part of his "trade-enforcement/retaliatory trade" policy. This is looking like the omnibus crime bill, most know it in it's current form as the patriot act. They'll keep trying and trying 'till it passes.
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 AcidMonster
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Is their a petition online?
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: AcidMonster]  1
#15716958 - 01/25/12 03:23 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Online petitions don't do dick. If you want to make in impact, call your legislators and let them know how you feel.
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Edited by love2shpongleIRL (01/25/12 03:24 PM)
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AcidMonster
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We have too many damn laws.
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Quote:
love2shpongleIRL said:
Obummer talked about it in his address last night. Part of his "trade-enforcement/retaliatory trade" policy. This is looking like the omnibus crime bill, most know it in it's current form as the patriot act. They'll keep trying and trying 'till it passes.
um... ACTA doesnt get voted on by congress and it was already signed by the "US" meaning president Obama
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: AcidMonster]
#15716979 - 01/25/12 03:28 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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AcidMonster said:
We have too many damn laws.
it's not a law
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love2shpongleIRL
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15716983 - 01/25/12 03:29 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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I thought it was Obama's bill and he was going to be sending it to congress for deliberation?
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Edited by love2shpongleIRL (01/25/12 03:30 PM)
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15717004 - 01/25/12 03:32 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Ahh, what a difference a little light reading makes. Excuse my ignorance on this particular trade policy.
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15717021 - 01/25/12 03:35 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Why is it being brought up now in the aftermath of SOPA and PIPA?
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Quote:
love2shpongleIRL said:
Ahh, what a difference a little light reading makes. Excuse my ignorance on this particular trade policy.
assuming that the video was really produced by anonymous... they said you're too stupid to understand it in the video
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: AcidMonster]
#15717024 - 01/25/12 03:36 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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AcidMonster said:
Why is it being brought up now in the aftermath of SOPA and PIPA?
It's timing is coincidence, this has been in the works since 2006.
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: AcidMonster]
#15717029 - 01/25/12 03:37 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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AcidMonster said:
Why is it being brought up now in the aftermath of SOPA and PIPA?
Because Europe is signing it tomorrow
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: AcidMonster]
#15717032 - 01/25/12 03:38 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Why is it being brought up now in the aftermath of SOPA and PIPA?
neither passed, Kim what'sisface was busted via the acta agreement,
apparently this is when anonymous discovered it's existence and they're
trying to make it out like it's new and panic you with this as they did
with SOPA and PIPA
anonymous is no more than a bunch of liberal shills now
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Re: ACTA its like SOPA and PIPA but worse [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15717540 - 01/25/12 05:09 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
anonymous is no more than a bunch of liberal shills now
I bet he's going to be riding your nuts so hard when he reads that and arrogantly thinks it's a poke at him. 
While ACTA is not new, it has been revised slightly as it's being passed around the international community for assessment. The most recent revision to ACTA, that is public domain and therefor available to us, was made on January 18th. It's hosted for download via the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the English version starts on page 57.
The only interest it holds for me is that it shows a circumvention of the public consensus by phrasing it as an agreement rather than a bill and following that up by throwing it in international waters, so to speak.
As an aside, you may wanna look into TPP. It's currently eyes only, but segments have been leaked. The reading on Wikipedia suggests that provisions regarding Intellectual Property presented in TPP will be harmful to not only the virtual community, but many other professions as well. I haven't read it yet, but it seems it will also be pushing for stricter copyright guidelines in the areas of web and desktop development. For those who don't know, copyright enforcement is plaguing programmers worldwide. This Wikipedia article sheds light on this problem, and also shows the lack luster list of pros vs. a lengthier list of cons. Here's a radio broadcast on the subject as well. Yes, I know copyright is a function of the patent system, before anyone points that out and thinks I'm confused.
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