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Anonymous #1
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 Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) 
#15508783 - 12/13/11 05:50 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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About myself and my Situation: I am trying to kick my heroin habit right now but its been awful. I have been so sick. I am 20 years old, no job and no insurance.
I have been using daily for maybe 5 months now. It started slow the first month with intranasal use but progressed to intravenous use since then. I have quit using recreationally and have been substituting with other opiates to combat withdraws after several days of cold turkey and the occasional shot if I can get nothing else.
I tried suboxone a month ago, which I stocked up on through a friend, which helped the cravings reasonably but I felt weird and not myself while on it so of course I relapsed.
Before that I tried methadone for a short time, which worked great, no cravings and I was totally functional but it was expensive, although worth it but... alas my connection dried up.
I am going to try to get state medical so I can get into an outpatient methadone program but a friend of mine told me that some clinics will pay for the treatment for you, is this true?
Does anyone have any experience with methadone treatment? I know a bit about it and I understand I will have to visit the clinic for a long time before I am allowed a take home dose and I am worried about the waiting list.
I was thinking I would go to my primary physician and tell him the whole story and maybe he can help me out, only problem is if I do discuss this with him, he will never write me a prescription again for the sleep aids I need or the anti-anxiety medication I desperately need. Though I am willing to risk this to get better.
What should I do guys? I desperately want to be clean, healthy and happy but what can I do in my circumstance? Any advice at all would help, thank you!
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Anonymous #2
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 Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15508818 - 12/13/11 06:15 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I am in an out patient methadone maintenance program right now. From my exp if you tell your primary doc, he will most likely try to subscribe/refer you to suboxone/suboxone doc. Well, thats how it seems to go in my area anyway. As far as the free clinics go, ive never heard of them where im at. I have heard of public clinics in bigger cities that are WAY cheaper. I pay $110 a week right now and go four days a week. At my clinic it takes 90 days for your first "takehome", which would be Sunday +1 day.
Let me know if you have any more questions or if there are any i didnt answer.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #2]
#15508829 - 12/13/11 06:22 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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man all i gotta say is good luck to you sir....thats a hard habit to kick. i love opiates but ive been in the same boat as you. the hardest thing is gettin it outta your head. smokin weed helps  . dones and suboxone will just get you addicted unless you can manage weaning yourself down. just go get yourself a bad of weed and some xannax and hopefully you will be able to hold the urge. thats the only i was able to kick the habit. good luck bro
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #3]
#15508835 - 12/13/11 06:27 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I want to be done with this dope... Its just not worth it. I want to be in a program so badly but I cant afford it. Can a doctor prescribe methadone? The suboxone really sucked and was not much help.
I am in dire straights here.
Thanks for the support guys and #2 I would love it if you could tell me all about the clinic and the process and what not.
Is it a private or state program your going too? I hear the private programs run at about $100-$150 a week where as the state programs are as cheap as $15.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15508839 - 12/13/11 06:33 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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down here in sfla opiate addiction is a really bad problem....there are lots of pain clinics and most of them offer suboxone treatment. that is probably your best bet. dones and subs are both pretty pricey. i took subs for about 2 weeks and just weaned myself off of them gradually. that was the only way i was able to kick it but the twitches and not being able to sleep was the worst part. like i said b4....get yourself some good weed and a bottle of xannax and that will help ALOT. just be careful if you do to the dones man those can be addicting just as much as anything.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15509032 - 12/13/11 08:33 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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if you are anywhere near a major university, especially one that has med/bio research programs or works with the NIH or other fed research agency, you can apply to get into free treatment programs...hell, places like john hopkins and rutgers will pay you to undergo treatment at their clinics....
check the back pages of your local citypaper/village voice/alternate weekly
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #3]  1
#15509054 - 12/13/11 08:41 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #3 said:
dones and suboxone will just get you addicted
These meds are for ppl that are already addicted. Although not for ppl that just take a few perks a day. Methadone has helped me turn my life around. Yes, im still physically dependent on a substance, but im not in danger of getting hep or any other diseases. Not to mention, i dont have to do the things i was doing to support my habit. Im not even gonna get into what those things are. Some ppl will look at the $110 a week price tag and say im stupid, but compared to how much money i was wasting back when i was using its a god-send.
OP, yes docs can prescribe methadone, but from my exp its usually for pain.
The clinic i go to is a private clinic, no such thing as public methadone clinics in my area unfortunately. When i started going i had to get on the waiting list, but soon after i actually started they did away with that and started taking walk-ins! Thats my luck for ya! Anyways, it depends on what day of the week you start but it was $160 for me my first day. By law, they cant give you anymore than 30mgs your first day. Keep in mind, this is just in my state. It might be a little different depending where you are. So, my first day i had to show up at 530am and fill out a SHITLOAD of paperwork. You see a few different ppl, intake counsler, some other kind of counsler, the doc etc. They have to pull some blood and give you a TB test. I dont know if you've ever had one but they just inject some stuff right under your skin (not intravenously) and it bubbles up. They check it in two days to make sure it didnt swell up or whatever. Long story short, your first day is gonna be shitty and take (at least for me) around 5-6 hours. You have a month to get clean of all other substances. You will take a drug test the first day. You want to make sure to have some kind of opiate in your system that day. Well, let me clarify, they will want you to come in dope sick, all im saying is make sure you fail the drug test for some kind of opiate. The reason i say this is bc without a opiate positive drug screen they will be iffy about giving you a larger dose of methadone. Not all clinics are like this, but i know from exp than some are. Ive been to two different clinics(3 if you count the one i guest dosed at in daytona,FL) and one of them required you to have failed your first drug screen in order to get a dose higher than 30mgs. Back to what i was saying before, you get a month to pass a drug screen. After that first month if you fail a DT they will charge you $20 for the failed Dt and $10 each for two "follow ups" dt's. So, if you fail a DT later on it costs you $40 bucks and you lose any takehomes you had.
Takehomes...
Heres how it works in my state. Clinics are closed on sunday so you will always get 1 takehome on saturday. You have to have a lockbox to keep you meds in. You start out on "daily" which is a Code 6 at my clinic some places will call that a "phase _" with some number. I like the "code" system bc its easier to think about.
Code 6 - You come 6 days a week and get 1 takehome on sat for sun.
Code 5 - 5 days a week and you get 2 take homes, aka Sun +1.
Code 4 - 4 days a week, Sun +2 <--- This is where im at right now.
Code 3 - 3 days a week, Sun +3
Code 2 - 2 days a week, Sun +4
Code 1 - once a week
You see how it works. Each code has requirements that you must meet in order to get them. For instance:
Code 5 - 90 days in treatment, 4 clean drug screens(in a row)
Code 4 - 180 days in treatment, 7 clean D/S
Code 3 - 270 days(i think?)
Code 1 - the requirements for code 2 is the same as code 1. dont quote me on this but i think its 9 months. You can stay at Code 2 and this way you wont get med counts, but once you get to weekly (code 1) you will start having to come in randomly for med counts. Its not that often tho. Most places have a number you call and if your patient ID# is on the recording that means you have to come in for a med count.
Sorry for being so long-winded, and again, let me know if you still have any questions or any concerns. I dont care at all to help guys/gals like you out bc ive been there too, and it SUCKS!
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #2]
#15509255 - 12/13/11 10:06 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Basically I have to find a discreet program that is either cheap as hell or free. anon #2 you have been so much help brother!
I am going to try and get my state health back so then I can just go to any near by clinic but as far as I know there aren't any for miles around and I could never afford to drive to one everyday, I was told by someone that u can get bus vouchers from the clinics and stuff.
I am going to call tomorrow and find out.
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15509834 - 12/13/11 12:53 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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If you lived in San Francisco, New York, Philadelphia et al; big cities you would have better luck on getting on some type of assistance for the Methadone. I know people who get it for free and flip them for Heroin.
What price are you willing to pay to stay off dope? I mean really I know you were probably spending several times the cost of Methadone treatment on your habit each week.
The cost of the program includes the medicine too? If the cost is $100-$150 a week, that is cheap.
I say try to stick with Methadone if the cost are like that!
When I was on Suboxone the doctor would charge $1100 for induction, $100 a week and the cost of 30 x Suboxone was $210 a week. Nine times out of ten Suboxone is going to cost more. There are patient assistance programs which I Was lucky enough to have been on. Free Suboxone for a year.
Some of the Suboxone doctors aren't set up as well to treat all their patients. I know mine wasn't and it was obvious his practice was a cash cow.
If you are out in the sticks or other well to do areas there are methadone clinics right around you. Don't matter they operate everywhere and unless you are assigned to some city, county or state methadone program; odds are they are just as desecrate in operation as your general practitioner.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #5]
#15510297 - 12/13/11 02:14 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I live in the Seattle area of Washington and I was using 8grams a month roughly, costing about $200. Sometimes less, sometimes more.
I am broke now and no cash is coming in so I can't afford the habit or the treatment.
I won't do the suboxone if I have a choice, I'd much rather go through the rigamarole of the methadone clinic. Because I know it will work.
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15510340 - 12/13/11 02:22 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Either Chemical you will be chained too for awhile.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #5]
#15510498 - 12/13/11 02:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I'd rather be chained to the methadone than smack.
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Anonymous #6
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15510608 - 12/13/11 03:16 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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im glad ive never done H...
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #6]
#15510731 - 12/13/11 03:37 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #6 said:
im glad ive never done H...
Yeah it's not a good thing to get involved with. Truthfully though. Once in done and this is in my past I feel like this will have been a big learning experience and will ether me in the end. I thinks it's best to try and make something good out of this bad situation.
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15511090 - 12/13/11 05:00 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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i developed a problem with heroin and a good friend took off from work for a week and we spent 9 days at her apartment... she had me drink nothing but green juice and water and i ate salads. it sucked the first five days but by day nine, i still had the psychological carvings but they were manageable. i was partners in a bar restaurant and one of the cooks was on methadone and doing very well but she claimed she'd be on it for the rest of her life which was kind of mind blowing to hear. she was in a state funded program that didn't cost her anything. she was the only one the book keeper paid in cash to keep her under the radar income wise. she was an awesome employee. she used to always warn the waitresses about snorting opium, but they continued to do it anyway. some people refuse to learn from others experience i guess. i wonder how she's doing now, now that you brought it up. by the way, i live in new jersey. things may be different where you live.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #7]
#15511161 - 12/13/11 05:16 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I would just be so happy if I could get into a clinic. I just want to be clean and healthy. It'll be hard to find a clinic that's totally state funded but I'm going to look.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: Need your help Shroomery (methadone treatment) [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15511532 - 12/13/11 06:34 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Some of the Suboxone doctors aren't set up as well to treat all their patients. I know mine wasn't and it was obvious his practice was a cash cow.
Yeah dude, you need to find a legit addictionologist. Most other doctors will just put you on subs and leave you with a nasty suboxone addiction. It's costlier and harder to come off subs in the long run.
I had the good fortune (or bad) to detox in jail so there was literally no other option but to cold turkey it. But once I got out and into treatment my doc put me on vivitrol shots. Which was good cuz once you get that shot, you're was done for a month. Even when you want to get high, you can't. 30 days later, another shot...much better than taking individual doses (which I would've been able to skip if I so pleased).
The normal plan for my old treatment center is no more than a month of suboxone and then vivitrol for a year (12 shots, one in each month). Although vivitrol's expensive without insurance...something like $1k per shot ($12k for the entire thing). If you go through treatment, some treatment centers are able to help you pay for shit like that...or even go for free. There were a couple of people who attended my facility for free and only paid $100 per shot...so it's worth it to check up on. Just takes a couple phone calls.
Shit worked for me, and I had a zip-per-month dope habit...but everyone's different.
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