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#15330806 - 11/06/11 02:13 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Is masturbation detrimental or positive to sexual experience?
Does masturbating increase your sex drive or does it deplete it?
Are there any positives to masturbation or any detriments?
I want to stop masturbating becasue it gives me dreams involving having sex with people i'm closed too and it also makes me analyze body language from an overly sexual basis which kind of fucks up my modes of thought
help plz
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 PsillySighBen
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MASTURBATION AND THE POWER OF SUGGESTION Wednesday, 12 May, 2010 7:20 AM
NOTHING DISTURBS unless you think that it disturbs. For example, I will tell you that many things have disturbed humanity because there was a certain concept that they disturb. When the concept changes, the things remain the same but they don't disturb. For example, MASTURBATION DISTURBED THE WHOLE WORLD. Just half century before, the whole world was disturbed by masturbation. Every teacher, every father, every mother was disturbed, and every child was disturbed. And still in the larger, ignorant world, the disturbance remains.
And then physiologists and psychologists discovered that MASTURBATION CANNOT DISTURB ANYONE; it is natural, and nothing is wrong with it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it; but the old teaching was that if you become mad, it is because of masturbation. If you are not getting higher ranks into education, it is because of masturbation. If you are ill, it is because of masturbation. Everything was forced down, reduced to masturbation.
And more or less every child was doing it; EVERY BOY WAS DOING IT, so every boy was afraid. He was doing it, and he was afraid that now he was going to be mad, inferior, crazy, eccentric, ill, and his life would be wasted. But he couldn't resist; he had to do it. AND THESE IDEAS ENTERED INTO THE MIND AND HAD EFFECTS. They affected many; and many went mad, many remained inferior, many remained stupid because of it; and it has no relationship at all.
Modern science, MODERN RESEARCH SAYS THAT RATHER IT IS HEALTHY. Medical science says that it is good because a boy at the age of thirteen or fourteen, or a girl at the age of twelve or thirteen, becomes sexually mature. If nature were allowed, they would have to get married immediately. They are ready to reproduce; but civilization, of necessity, forces that they will have to remain unmarried for ten years at least, or even more.
But medicine says that fourteen to twenty, these six years, are the most sexually potent. A boy is never so potent again as he is then. The energy is bubbling up; the whole body is ready to burst into sex. But the society says no, the energy should not be allowed to move. However, the energy is moving, and the child cannot do anything; AND WHATSOEVER HE IS GOING TO DO WILL HAVE EFFECTS because of the philosophy around him. He will feel he is doing something wrong, he will feel guilt; and that guilt will follow like a shadow. And many diseases will happen because of the idea, not because of the act.
MEDICINE SAYS THAT IT IS HEALTHY -- because he is relieved of unnecessary energy. That unnecessary energy would create problems otherwise, so it is healthy. Now, particularly in America, England and other Western developed countries who know much more about physiology, MASTURBATION IS BEING PROPAGATED. Now there are films on how to masturbate to show to the children, and every teacher will be teaching sooner or later how to masturbate rightly. And they say it is healthy, and now those who think it is healthy feel very healthy about it.
I don't think it is either -- it is neither healthy nor unhealthy. THE IDEA IS THE THING. If it is healthy and the concept is spread, it will become healthy. Now in the West they say not only that masturbation never affected anyone's intelligence adversely, but that the better the intelligence, the more masturbation will be there. SO A BOY WHO IS MASTURBATING MORE WILL BE OF HIGHER I.Q. than the boy who is not masturbating. And they have reasons for saying this -- because even for a boy to discover masturbation is a sign of intelligence – because he is finding out a way!
The society has closed the door for marriage, and the nature is forcing the energy. The intelligent one will find out a way, and the non-intelligent one will just be blocked; he will not be able to find the way. And now the studies show that THOSE BOYS WHO MASTURBATE ARE MORE INTELLIGENT. If this idea is spread -- and it is bound to be there -- sooner or later the whole world will be having this idea. Then masturbation will be healthy, and you will feel a well-being from it.
NOW EVERY PARENT IS AFRAID, because the parent knows what he did when he was young. When his boy comes to the same age, he becomes afraid and he starts looking around at what the boy is doing. He is afraid, and if he catches the boy he will punish him. But the new knowledge says don't punish the boy -- no! Rather, teach him. AND IF HE IS NOT MASTURBATING, then go to the doctor and find out what is wrong. If this knowledge becomes well spread, then this will happen.
But both are suggestions. BOTH are suggestions! AND WHEN SOME BOY MASTURBATES, HE IS VERY SUGGESTIVE IN THAT MOMENT -- because when sexual energy is being released, he becomes vulnerable, open, flexible; and his mind is silent. Any idea put in at that moment will have its effects -- so IF you tell him, "You are going to be ill because of it," he will feel ill. If you tell him, "You are going to be healthy because of it," he will become healthy. If you say to him, "You will be stupid for your whole life if you do this," he will remain a dunce. If you say, "Now this is a good sign of intelligence, " he may develop a higher I.Q. You are simply suggesting something to him in a very vulnerable moment. Whatsoever you think starts happening.
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 pescadorabioso
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"It's like masturbation. It feels good and you enjoy it but there is something innately false about the situation. You're lying on the couch, you're sweaty and hot and turned on by these impossibly graphic images and having a good time but then you wake up or have a moment of clarity and realize that none of it is real and you're just playing with yourself."
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What has made them conceive that man must want a rationally advantageous choice?
I've become desensitized to these types of occurrences thus far. Yet, there lies a sensation of bitter disappointment embedded within.
FINE YOU IMBECILE; SUFFER!! IT IS YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE HURTING. NOTHING IS DETERRING YOU FROM ATTAINING THAT OF WHICH YOU INHERENTLY CRAVE. YOU HAVE LET THEM TAKE OVER YOUR MIND, YOU ARE NO LONGER IN CONTROL, YOU NEVER WERE.
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koraks
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Anonymous said:
Is masturbation detrimental or positive to sexual experience?
I don't think the experts really agree on that. But based on common sense and personal experience, I'd say that too much masturbation (i.e. too frequently) will reduce your drive for, and enjoyment in 'actual' sex. How much 'too much' actually is varies from person to person, plus I find that my personal sex drive fluctuates.
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Does masturbating increase your sex drive or does it deplete it?
I personally believe it does neither. I think other factors are more influential antecedents of one's sex drive. I view masturbation more as a symptom than as a cause.
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Are there any positives to masturbation or any detriments?
Positives:
- Reduction of chance of prostrate cancer
- Stress relief
- Release of sexual energy without the need for a partner
Negatives:
- Reduced need for sex with a partner; i.e. may become a problem if you're in a relationship, in particular if porn takes precedent over your partner.
- Potential for addiction (well, habituation, more accurately).
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I want to stop masturbating becasue it gives me dreams involving having sex with people i'm closed too
Is masturbation the actual cause? How have you determined this? Many people from time to time have dreams involving sex with 'inappropriate' people. It isn't necessarily a problem in itself. How often do you have these? Why does it bother you?
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and it also makes me analyze body language from an overly sexual basis which kind of fucks up my modes of thought
Again, I doubt the validity of the cause-effect relationship you are supposing.
How old are you? How has your sex drive and sexuality at large developed over the past few years? Are you in a steady relationship? How many sex partners have you had over the past period of time? Does this satisfy you, or do you feel something is missing? I'm just posting some questions to try to explore some of the other things that may have to do with this. I think you have to include some more factors into the equation than just masturbation alone.
Oh, and one final remark: masturbation (practiced with some moderation) is a perfectly healthy and sane thing to do.
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Re: masturbation [Re: koraks]
#15331272 - 11/06/11 03:39 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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i think masturbation can help you control how long it takes you to orgasm. takes practice though.
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Re: masturbation [Re: casket]
#15331666 - 11/06/11 05:11 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Masturbation is the cure for AIDS!
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"I have looked upon all that the universe has to hold of horror, and even the skies of spring and the flowers of summer must ever afterward be poison to me.
But I do not think my life will be long. As my uncle went, as poor Johansen went, so I shall go. I know too much, and the cult still lives."
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Simms
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because when sexual energy is being released, he becomes vulnerable, open, flexible; and his mind is silent.
^this.
Therefore, masturbation makes you weak.
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SARAtonin said:
Masturbation is the cure for AIDS!
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cateyes
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masturbating is normal... when i was younger i felt the urge to masturbate once or twice a week, i had a fairly active sex life from 13 on... during periods i wasn't hooked up with a partner i would masturbate more, maybe three to four times per week... i never felt any guilt about masturbation, this never bothered me... when i was younger, i had a friend who would jack off everyday, more then once sometimes... he had problems relating to girls though, which was really sad because he was good looking and girls were attracted to him...
i'm sure there are benefits, some that i can think of is release of sexual energy, which is always good and like sex itself, it always relaxed me... there may be others that i'm unaware of... the negatives that i can think of is if you do it excessively you could easily lower your sex drive and if you really go overboard with it could bring on psychological issues like becoming fixated with it...
as far as your dreams go... i honestly can't say for sure but something is poking me deep inside to say no... i have sexual dreams involving sex with people i know often enough... i don't think there's anything wrong with that at all... the mind is doing it's thing, by masturbating you're exploring your sexuality... i don't know what you mean by "analyze body language from an overly sexual basis"... do you mean you find yourself staring at a girls breasts while she's talking to you? if so, you'll have to work on that because that will make any girl/woman who isn't sexually attracted to you, feel very uncomfortable... i don't see why you jacking off would cause you to do that though... who knows, maybe i'm wrong... yeah, girls love eye contact...
how old are you? have you had sexual intercourse yet? do you feel any guilt at all over masturbating? are you masturbating constantly?
Kensho
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Re: masturbation [Re: cateyes]
#15332370 - 11/06/11 08:32 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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How old are you? 19
How has your sex drive and sexuality at large developed over the past few years?
i've always had a low sex drive to have actual sex but used to masturbate daily
Are you in a steady relationship? no
How many sex partners have you had over the past period of time? 2
the first time the girl was super drunk and i was unaware how drunk she was. i was slightly drunk and couldn't get a boner. we ended u driving her to the hospital because of alcohol poisoning
the second time i met the girl the same day. my friend arranged it so she would give me a blowjob in exchange for a ride to and from the train station. i asked her if we could fuck and she said yes. when i tried to fuck ehr i couldn't get a boner so she gave me a blowjob and i had a huge erection. i then fucked her but couldn't come
Does this satisfy you, or do you feel something is missing? i kind of feel like i'm missing something. i'm not truly satisfied but i'm afraid i wont perform well enough for the female
have you had sexual intercourse yet? ^
do you feel any guilt at all over masturbating? no i just feel like it makes me a pervert like i'll accidentally look at someone's crotch and i'll feel really weird about it and almost embarassed
are you masturbating constantly? not anymore a few times a week at best
my psychiatrist feels that he doesn't get a sexual feeling from me at all. maybe because i was sent to catholic school as a child. i don't know
i've started doing kegles and soon i'm going to start cycling so i can be a sex machine
thanks everyone
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Darwin23
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Is masturbation detrimental or positive to sexual experience?
It really depends on the person. It can be positive if you're comfortable with your sexuality and negative if you aren't. I have some intimacy problems so I often feel ashamed or embarrassed when I masturbate to someone I'm interested in. I have a friend who is bi but is also a devout Christian. His family even told them they would disown him if he was gay. He masturbates to gay porn and feels very guilty about it.
Does masturbating increase your sex drive or does it deplete it?
Immediately it depletes it, but I'm sure you know this. In the long run I think it depletes it as well. Humans feel the need to have sex. When we don't fulfill that need it can affect us. Sexual frustration can be a very real problem and orgasm is really the only cure.
Are there any positives to masturbation or any detriments?
It can be good for self-esteem. It's one of the things on a list that my therapist gave me to work on self-esteem. As mentioned earlier it can help relieve sexual frustration. It feels good, this is a benefit. The only detriment I think again would be a personal thing. Someone could feel guilty about it. It could negatively affect your relationship as well. Some women can feel unwanted or ugly when their boyfriend masturbates all the time instead of paying attention to them.
If you want to stop masturbating you could join a support group and practice avoidance behaviors. There are plenty of Christian groups out there that cater to men with porn addictions. You may not have a porn addiction, but I'm sure they can support you in not masturbating. You can also try to do other things when you feel the urge to masturbate. Personally that doesn't help me. By the way, the oversexual analysis of body language and everything seems like a symptom of being turned on, not masturbating. I start to do that when I get turned on which leads to masturbation. I don't think it's the masturbation that causes it. Just my opinion.
Good luck. I hope I helped.
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Anon1, it seems to me that the most important thing you need to do is ditch all the Christian bullcrap that was apparently part of your upbringing or schooling and that is currently restraining your sexual development.
Just to put some of the things you have said into perspective:
- Your frequency of masturbation is completely normal. Lots of completely sane and healthy guys jerk off on a daily basis. Your 'few times a week' are nothing to worry about. Only worry about frequency if your behavior starts to get in the way of normal functioning (work/school/social life/etc), which I don't see any clear evidence of in your case.
- Since you're not in an actual relationship, you don't have to worry about damaging your relationship by jerking off too much and thereby depleting your sexual energies.
- Looking at other people's crotches/tits/whatever is perfectly normal - all people do this, although some are aware of it, and some aren't. Research proves, however, that both men and women automatically check out relevant bits of the body of a person of the opposite sex. This doesn't make you a pervert. You would be a pervert if you would do this very openly and visibly to others and jacked off at the same time. Which I assume you don't. So don't worry about it.
- You're 19 and have limited sexual experience: it's perfectly normal that you are preoccupied with sex. Practically all guys your age have sex on their minds pretty much all of the time, and are struggling to find out how their sexuality works exactly. Again, it's perfectly normal and nothing to worry too much about. If you believe a shrink can help you with this, then sure, go ahead, but don't think you need to enlist help because you're abnormal - you're not.
- Feelings of inadequacy in bed are also a completely normal phenomenon, both in men and women. Don't worry about that too much; once you're in a relationship, simply ask your partner from time to time if she's satisfied in bed. If she isn't or she wants to change things, then simply work with her. It's not something you need to figure out all by yourself, and you don't need to be superman. You only need to communicate. Which can sometimes be difficult enough, but it's the only thing that really works.
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 Re: masturbation [Re: koraks]
#15334408 - 11/07/11 06:23 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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excellent post koraks but i just want to make one comment... you don't have to be jerking off while very openly and visibly looking at a woman to come off as a perv... i've had many girls and women confide in me that some guy gave them the creeps by the way they openly stared at them... if you're in a conversation with a girl and your eyes continually turn down to look at their breasts instead of maintaining eye contact will make most women begin to feel uncomfortable, unless she is attracted to you in which case, this might be a turn on for her... if your behavior begins to make others feel unease something is wrong... looking at beautiful women from an anatomy standpoint and wondering about the possibilities is perfectly normal, i agree but if you spend most/all of your time while in calculus class staring at some girls tits there's something going on there because the behavior is effecting the boys life... i have no science to back this up, it's just an educated, life experience opinion...
Kensho
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Re: masturbation [Re: cateyes]
#15334414 - 11/07/11 06:28 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, I agree Kensho, I was exaggerating. Staring overtly at people tends to come across the wrong way, it's best avoided. But deep down inside, we're all animals, checking out potential mates all of the time.
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Re: masturbation [Re: koraks]
#15387818 - 11/18/11 11:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Masturbation is good for the soul. You and only you know exactly how hard, how fast, how smooth, when to slow, when to speed up. You get my drift? Sure intimacy is fun and all but when I want a really good orgasm I have to "take matters into my own hands". Let a mechanical friend into your heart and you'll have the best orgasms ever. I am a girl (obviously) and can only speak for myself but I;m sure guys share the same opinion.
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i would like a flesh light very much
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If you're baked and suddenly your company has to go elsewhere, masturbation is pretty enjoyable
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Re: masturbation [Re: casket]
#15398202 - 11/20/11 05:13 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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casket said:
i think masturbation can help you control how long it takes you to orgasm. takes practice though.
i agree with you,for the first time ever
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Simms
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Re: masturbation [Re: cateyes]
#15398733 - 11/20/11 06:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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cateyes said:
excellent post koraks but i just want to make one comment... you don't have to be jerking off while very openly and visibly looking at a woman to come off as a perv... i've had many girls and women confide in me that some guy gave them the creeps by the way they openly stared at them... if you're in a conversation with a girl and your eyes continually turn down to look at their breasts instead of maintaining eye contact will make most women begin to feel uncomfortable, unless she is attracted to you in which case, this might be a turn on for her... if your behavior begins to make others feel unease something is wrong... looking at beautiful women from an anatomy standpoint and wondering about the possibilities is perfectly normal, i agree but if you spend most/all of your time while in calculus class staring at some girls tits there's something going on there because the behavior is effecting the boys life... i have no science to back this up, it's just an educated, life experience opinion...
Kensho
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