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Nature Boy
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changa or enhanced leaf really is the best way to go.
just weigh out equal parts of dmt and whatever herb it is you want to infuse the dmt to, then mix both into either acetone or isopropyl alcohol, mix it around to ensure its all evenly coated, and then let it evaporate untill its bone dry.
then you can just smoke it in a bong or anything like you would smoke weed or something. all in one hit , rather then battling the onslaught of dmt puff for puff in a freebase pipe, or using any other number of strange methods like ' the machine ' and ' the key ' and all those.
That's what I'm doing now - and I love it. Only took me four years to figure it out. In fact, I "committed" my entire current stash (2 grams) of freebase to making enhanced leaf, and I'm quite pleased. I went so far as to have wrapped my oil pipes in newspaper and smashed them into tiny glass shards before discarding. No sketchy powder that could be mistaken for coke or meth should it be discovered by a family member.
From now on, its changa in my GVG. 
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Edited by Nature Boy (10/10/11 10:34 AM)
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dwpineal
Psychedelic Artist



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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: Nature Boy]
#15204685 - 10/10/11 12:35 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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changa or enhanced leaf really is the best way to go.
just weigh out equal parts of dmt and whatever herb it is you want to infuse the dmt to, then mix both into either acetone or isopropyl alcohol, mix it around to ensure its all evenly coated, and then let it evaporate untill its bone dry.
then you can just smoke it in a bong or anything like you would smoke weed or something. all in one hit , rather then battling the onslaught of dmt puff for puff in a freebase pipe, or using any other number of strange methods like ' the machine ' and ' the key ' and all those.
That's what I'm doing now - and I love it. Only took me four years to figure it out. In fact, I "committed" my entire current stash (2 grams) of freebase to making enhanced leaf, and I'm quite pleased. I went so far as to have wrapped my oil pipes in newspaper and smashed them into tiny glass shards before discarding. No sketchy powder that could be mistaken for coke or meth should it be discovered by a family member.
From now on, its changa in my GVG. 
N.B.
Must investigate further. Been hearing about changa forever, but haven't taken the plunge...what is better about it? In your experiences...
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Nature Boy
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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: dwpineal]
#15205082 - 10/10/11 02:04 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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dwpineal said: Must investigate further. Been hearing about changa forever, but haven't taken the plunge...what is better about it? In your experiences...
1) No possibility of inhaling powder. 2) No possibility (OK a GREATLY REDUCED possibility) of the DMT melting away from the heat source and becoming unavailable to that dosing effort since it is captured and captive in the enhanced leaf. 3) No sketchy powder - far more surreptitious and easily disguised, and no need for an oil / meth pipe. 4) Overall, VERY easy and user-friendly, plus you get the potential benefits of taste and medicinal additives of your personally chosen leaf. Research Mullein (Verbascum thapsus) for example. Lots of people use B. Caapi and Blue Lotus flower petals, too. 5) The launch isn't nearly as violent and sudden. Comes on smoother and with less pushiness. 6) Dosing errors are minimized since the leaf component adds to the mass, and scales will have an easier time measuring mass in their range.
There are other reasons, too, but ease of use is way up there!
N.B.
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Edited by Nature Boy (10/10/11 02:07 PM)
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dwpineal
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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: Nature Boy]
#15205424 - 10/10/11 03:29 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome, thanks for all that! I have another question on changa - Can you still break through or is it too diffuse (in the inactive materials)? How many tokes for breakthrough? Normal pipe/vapor genie?
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JilPil
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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: dwpineal]
#15205599 - 10/10/11 04:12 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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i would add lots of dmt to the mix for a breakthrough batch so less herb has to be smoked
and add less dmt to a mix for just chill non breakthrough hits
its all dependent on how much is on the herb
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Prior to the breakthrough; you are considering possibilities.
Considering speeds and speeds, until your realm cant follow the consideration.
Once pushed out of this dimension.
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As you come back to reality you start to remember the possibilities in your life.
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TheDrake



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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: JilPil]
#15205651 - 10/10/11 04:24 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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now ive heard to make changa you need a maoi? could i just use leaf from cannabis plants? would dry or fresh be better?
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Nature Boy
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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: dwpineal]
#15206038 - 10/10/11 05:46 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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dwpineal said: Awesome, thanks for all that! I have another question on changa - Can you still break through or is it too diffuse (in the inactive materials)? How many tokes for breakthrough? Normal pipe/vapor genie?
I have read many reports of people "breaking through" on changa. Same as always, two, MAYBE three hits, but, I have to confess, I've NEVER pushed it that hard. To me, what people define and describe as a break through dose sounds punishing, not pleasant. Maybe I'm a coward - I dunno. I just seem to prefer the middle ground where its all kaleidoscopic prettiness and warm afterglow as opposed to sterile crystalline she-creature clowns disemboweling and raping my bung-hole. 
I use my GVG, and one hit taken in after a complete exhale takes me on a dose-related 10 minute excursion to the most beautiful of art galleries one can't even imagine trying to describe with things as mundane as words.
N.B.
-------------------- All submitted posts are by Someone Who Isn't Me (SWIM) - and in any event are works of pure fiction or outright lies. Any information, statement, or assertion contained therein should be considered pure unadulterated bullshit. Note well: Sorry, but I no longer answer PM's unless you are a long-time trusted friend, so don't bother. If you have a question, ask it in the appropriate thread...no exceptions. Anyone with less than 1,000 posts is automatically assumed to be a cop.
Edited by Nature Boy (10/10/11 08:05 PM)
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muistrue
Inspired by the mystery


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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: dwpineal]
#15206075 - 10/10/11 05:54 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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There isn't really any inactive material in changa. The caapi leaf is used because it contains the harmala alkaloid tetrahydroharmine and in order to make a proper changa blend you must make a caapi leaf extract preferably 10-20x then infuse the DMT into that at a 1:1 ratio. Doing it this way insures you will get an effective amount of THH and DMT in 1 or 2 hits. Yes you will breakthrough with changa if smoked properly and it even takes less DMT because of the RIMA action and it also extends the DMT flash up to as long as 25 minutes.
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Dosile Kouki
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Re: my way of smoking dmt [Re: dwpineal]
#15207213 - 10/10/11 09:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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you can certainly break through with changa with a large sized cone. if you are smokign 1:1 changa, it means you need to smoke 100mg of material to get the 50mg dose. but i highly recomend trying it with some caapi alkaloids or when being under the influence of caapi. i can't really describe it yet but theres something about the caapi. it seems to slow down and deepen the experience, so instead of it being a tsunami-esque onslaught, its slower but more deeper. it still hits heavy as anything dmt assosciated does, but its different. i haven't ventured too deep down the rabbit hole but there is definately something great in there about the caapi. am planning to experiment more once i finish exams. 
but just as a smoking method its much easier, it is as easy as smoking a bong. no worries about overheating, or learning difficult techniques with foreign devices. smoked easily in a way everyone is comfortable and capable of.
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