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I love weed, but it is runing my life
    #15142134 - 09/27/11 04:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I'm been smoking pot nearly daily for about 6 years. It has done so many wonderful things for me. Generally, I am very confrontational and macho, but weed just lets me relax and not take things so seriously. It gives me a "so what?" attitude, which can be helpful but also problematic. Worst of all it makes me fucking lazzzzzy. I'm lazy enough without weed. When stoned, I don't even want to move.

I have a wife and kid and a stressful job, so the weed realxes me and supresses my anger. My mom used to send me to anger management classes as a teen, but those classes just pissed me off. The biggest problem I have is I feel I'm missing my child grow up because I'm always in a haze or really fucking lazy.

I have deep self confidence issues. All my life I have been fat with man tits, but had lots of friends before pot. I was the comedic relief, the badass who would fight anybody anytime, and generally fun to be around. As I started toking, my social realtionships dwindeled. I never want to talk to anyone while high and avoid contact at all costs. I hate being in public because everybody looks at me weird and I have no friends. I'm uncomfortable, so everyone is uncomfortable with me. I can barely carry on a conversation because of my awkwardness. I believe alot of this stems from years of avoiding contact with people while high. At the same time, without pot I'm super macho and short tempered.

Weed and pychs taught me love is the most important thing, but unless I'm stoned I'm just a stick of dynamite waiting to explode on a mother fucker. I'm at a cross roads and have been wanting to take a break from pot for several months, but every week I buy another bag. I don't want to go back to that mean guy I used to be. Maybe I just need to grow a pair and see what life is like sober for the first time in a while. I'm afraid if I quit pot I will start drinking. I always feel the need to be mellowed by one substance or another.

I have no motivation or drive other than my kid. And the problem may be my self confidence, not the herb. I hate being around people. I hate it because it makes me so uncomfortable. I hate it because I can't carry on small talk. I don't want to talk about reality TV or the weather. I don't know what to do. I'm tired of being an outcast. I'm tired of being an embarassment to myself and my family. I want to be "normal" and liked again. But I don't know how. Advice is appreciated


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15142187 - 09/27/11 04:11 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I'd suggest quit the weed and take up a sport or activity which involves others, like cycling, tennis or whatever you think you'd be into. Try as hard as you can to make some new friends. At first, it's always gonna be awkward but the more your around other people, the better you get with conversation and just general relationship building.

When I was younger and in school, I was pretty dam quiet and only really talked to a few certain people. Then I got a job in hospitality and I have to deal with customers every day - just that has taught me how to make conversation, keep it going and how to make people feel welcome or happy and so on. Also, if you take up a sport your gonna get rid of any excess weight - which I bet is causing a large sum of your confidence issues


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15142230 - 09/27/11 04:21 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I think a lot of people can relate to you and what youre saying.  Its funny how many people i hear say:"Weed doesnt make me lazy man, i go out and do thangs when im high."  And its true weed doesn't necessarily make you lazy.  Getting high too much throws your priorities off though.  Sure some people (who smoke heavily and daily) arent sitting on their asses all day.  But theyre not really accomplishing a lot or at least not bettering themselves.  They are satisfied with mediocrity.  Its funny how much time and thought can go into getting high for some people.  Try cutting down slowly on smoking, and start exercising man.The less often you smoke the less you enjoy the effects in my experience.  Working out will do wonders for your mental health/mood.  Maybe get a gym membership and socialize a little.  Ask regulars for advice, people are usually more than happy to help and its a good way to meet new people/make friends. 


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: chooken]
    #15142412 - 09/27/11 05:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

op you know weed isnt the problem. I dont even believe its a motivation or self esteem issue, Imo its a spiritual issue.

I know where your coming from and heres my advice and its VERY simple, but easier said that done. You have to re wire your brain so that cannabis is what you need it to be. It is of very good use in spiritual evolution, which is what i use it for and why i dont like to be around people high either... Ive be a loner stoner all my life. I am the happiest when im high alone. and the angriest when im high around others.
It is possible to pick up the negative energy of others without even knowing it, we get them from people all througout the day and accumulate them over time, exploding or snapping on people is a manifestation of their energy, Its easier to attract someones negative emotions than positive ones. If you were born with a gift of anger instead of peace
rewire you brain to consistently use your gift of peace (everyone has both)..

Meaning you may be one of those people who people with a natural gift of anger whos emotions are so intense that they can affect the emotions of someone who rarely gets angry at all.. These gifts are powerful and are in constant manifestation throughout the day.

the only kicker is once you re wire your brain you it will take a while for you to actually believe you have made a powerful change.
By powerful change i mean it will take a consistent and uphill effort if you really love the herb.. this is what it comes down to.
either way you live out of love for what drives you, in your case your kid. and love is sacrifice always not anger.. anger is simply uncontrolled passion, if you want to change, something has to go, you have to cut new grooves so to speak in the way your brain works and responds to situations.

you have to be in a process of change both high and not high, that can also be a little tricky, I love cannabis so much ive dedicated my life to exploring its value in every aspect of my life.

for example I am the opposite, i do not like confrontation or bullies or fighting, even though i had been in martial arts since i was very young, never used it once no matter how angry at someone i was. Ive always had somewhat of a bob marley view on things, the times i did get my ass kicked i got up and walked away and enjoyed the rest of my day. However recently ive had to completely change the way i use MJ,
Im learning to combine the spiritual path with the worldly path.
Reason being is because you can be extremely one or the other.
you can be angry and hostile then mellow and care free..

so to end the rant just balance the both you know what to do, but i suggest even when you feel lazy, find a way to get the answers you need through sitting meditation... dont waste it. if you dont want to do anything fine, but use the time wisely, if you dont believe in God or any higher power then tap into you higher most thoughts

character begins with thought.
if you dont like your character change your
actions if you dont like your actions
change your habits if you dont like you habits
change your decisions, if you dont like your decisions
change your thoughts.

If you forget because your high its ok. Keep going,


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Edited by rockycrag (09/27/11 07:58 PM)


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #15142413 - 09/27/11 05:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the advice so far. I think once I can become confident in myself again I will be able to relate to more people and build new relationships. I put on this facade like nothing can hurt me. My father passed about 1 month ago and I have to be the foundation of my family, so I cannot show weakness. I can do that, no problem. But keeping all this inside for so many years has really been wearing on me lately. It's a relief to tell somebody how I feel, even if those people are strangers. The thing is, I don't have alot of body fat, but I've been haunted by man tits since I was thin in 5th grade. I played football all my life and have alot of muscle, but no matter how many chest exercises I did the boobs never went away. These aren't your average man boobs. These look like fucking breasts. I've been considering surgery


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: rockycrag]
    #15142842 - 09/27/11 06:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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@ anon 2 thats completley untrue, you do not personally know every smoker or anything about what they do and do not accomplish throughout the day... Im a living example of proving people that have this mentality wrong, because its absolutley biased and false.




Wow what an Iron clad argument man.  "Weed doesnt make me lazy man, i go out and do thangs when im high." Ya i covered your type already.    If you're smoking heavily everyday i dont give a fuck who you are, youre wasting precious time and energy that could be spent in better ways.  And who gives a flying fuck if you THINK you can get baked all day and still have life by the balls, its not about you.  Op has come to a realization that somethings not working, that he needs to change. 

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but op you know weed isnt the problem.



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you do not personally know every smoker or anything about what they do



:facepalm: Hypocrite much?

I dont know why your types even bother commenting on this kind of subject matter.  A guy has a genuine problem that he knows is exacerbated by his marijuana use, and you feed him bs. 

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rockycrag said: Marijuana gives you superhuman powers.  So therefore it couldnt possibly have anything to do with pot




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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #15143043 - 09/27/11 07:20 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

yea weed gives people superhuman powers, thats what i said:lolsy:

and yeeaaa, World famous cannabis breeders who devote their life to their vending business and customer support are lazy losers because of weed..they just happen to make millions of dollars a year from award winning genetics and those are in no way accomplishments out of life:rolleyes:

but regardless of what you think is bs or not stop hi jacking peoples threads, if you want to share your advice, do so and leave other posters opinions out of yours.
The Mods are on point here, Help threads are here for people to get help from anyone. and they should have to hear whinning about how your right and everyone else is wrong..

Op can use whatever advice he chooses identify with.


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Edited by rockycrag (09/27/11 08:02 PM)


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: rockycrag]
    #15143340 - 09/27/11 08:20 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Maybe the world-famous cannabis breeders are making millions of dollars because there are millions of lazy losers... not saying everyone who smokes pot is lazy, but in my experience, the majority of those who smoke it often and heavy, are.

There is a problem with smoking too much.  Everyone has their limit.  Doesn't matter if it's alcohol or ciagerettes or porn.  He says he's smoking too much, then he is.  Doesn't matter what you think, he thinks it's a problem and seeking help.  Don't deny him just because his situation isn't yours.  chooken/anon2 gave good advice, I think op will get some benefit if he follows it.


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: rockycrag]
    #15143432 - 09/27/11 08:35 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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rockycrag said:
yea weed gives people superhuman powers, thats what i said:lolsy:

and yeeaaa,
..they just happen to make millions of dollars a year from award winning genetics and those are in no way accomplishments out of life:rolleyes:

but regardless of what you think is bs or not stop hi jacking peoples threads, if you want to share your advice, do so and leave other posters opinions out of yours.
The Mods are on point here, Help threads are here for people to get help from anyone. and they should have to hear whinning about how your right and everyone else is wrong..

Op can use whatever advice he chooses identify with.



Youre the one hijacking the thread, nice editing by the way.  Accuse someone of exactly what YOU'RE doing. :facepalm:

Look at the title, and actually read through op's post.  A guy has a genuine problem that he knows is exacerbated by his marijuana use, and you feed him bs.  He is having issues with how much he smokes and how it negatively effects his life.  You say pot isnt his problem, after he clearly said it is.  Stop being  such a weed fanboy
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World famous cannabis breeders who devote their life to their vending business and customer support are lazy losers because of weed


  Explain to me what the fuck that has to do with the op or anything ive said.  I dont think op is a world famous cannabis breeder, and i never said potheads are lazy losers.  What i did say is that youd probably be more productive if you didnt smoke that gram of kush throughout the day/everyday.  And if you feel as though you need to be high in order to preform better, then well you have a problem.


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: happymealplease]
    #15143615 - 09/27/11 09:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

you guys seriously need to fully read both op's post my post before making such obtruse rebuttals, borderline dislexic. if you dont understand what i meant by something ask I wouldnt think any less of you... lets look at what op post again shall we.. then ill re interpret my replies to make them even more hater friendly...
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Weed and pychs taught me love is the most important thing, but unless I'm stoned I'm just a stick of dynamite waiting to explode on a mother fucker




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you have to be in a process of change both high and not high, that can also be a little tricky, I love cannabis so much ive dedicated my life to exploring its value in every aspect of my life




Meaning whatever he loves, being the most important thing in his life, Whether he smokes or doesnt the goal here is being consistent and active in his love walk.
OP
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I have no motivation or drive other than my kid. And the problem may be my self confidence, not the herb. I hate being around people.




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rewire you brain to consistently use your gift of peace (everyone has both)..




If you want to increase self confidence, increase your peace, sure your chest may make you feel insecure and if you feel surgery will help you get your confidence back, by all means go for it.
But like big women that loose alot of weight but still feel fat inside its because of there inner peace, their old way of thinking keeps them in that insecure mindstate even if they look good..


happy and anon you guys can make it look like im denying op all you want but still doesnt make it so. These are imaginations in your own selfish heads. and that opinion is your own formed by the environment in which you were raised, I was not raised to think so limited.

I speak from the heart because i have been in that situation and its not an easy cyle to break. I never told him weed was or was not the answer to his problem.

Ill even sum it up again for op before you guys go ruining this thread because like children you cant keep your opinions to your self

Op: If weeed helps you control your anger great, observe the language of your mind in the time you smoke. as I said before the idea is to keep a consistent attitude about the events that happen in your life and not to get tossed around by the waves of emotions, be firm in what you want to accomplish.


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: rockycrag]
    #15143646 - 09/27/11 09:12 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

OMG its so much fun its running my life. I hear you to it smells good and it taists good when you smoke it yeah it even gets you high how can you stop when your so high and having so much fun? I don't think you will ever stop When you get there GOD will be like i made this its from my kingdom. Use this to get rid of side effects from all these other things man made.


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: rockycrag]
    #15143690 - 09/27/11 09:23 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

You're right rockycrag, sorry.  I read the first line of your first post, interpreted it a different way, and that tainted the rest of what I read.

You are giving good advice, about the spirituality aspect and being centered and confident with yourself.  The only advice I can offer to the OP is that if you *think* pot is ruining your life, then take a break.  Find the willpower to *not* buy another bag and take a couple weeks off, and see how things go.  If you're anything like me then you will feel some kind of withdrawal effects during the first few days... nothing like actual dependence, but there's something.  I remember craving weed and feeling anxious and irritable when I kicked a year long every day chronic habit.  I'd open up cupboards and drawers and get massive whiffs of marijuana, even though there wasn't any there and never was any there... I was just really craving it.

Pushed through it, started doing the gym... I wouldn't say my life is fantastic now, I romanticize the idea of weed often, even go back and smoke it sometimes, but I don't really enjoy it anymore.  I quit because I thought it was having a negative effect on my life, and every time I go back to smoke it, I realize that yes, it was having a negative effect on my life, and though things may not be better, they'd be a lot worse if I gave up and just kept toking.  It might be the same for you, it might not, but you'll never know until you make yourself try.


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Re: I love weed, but it is runing my life [Re: lordsmaylead]
    #15143693 - 09/27/11 09:23 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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happymealplease said:
You're right rockycrag, sorry.  I read the first line of your first post, interpreted it a different way, and that tainted the rest of what I read.

You are giving good advice, about the spirituality aspect and being centered and confident with yourself.  The only advice I can offer to the OP is that if you *think* pot is ruining your life, then take a break.  Find the willpower to *not* buy another bag and take a couple weeks off, and see how things go.  If you're anything like me then you will feel some kind of withdrawal effects during the first few days... nothing like actual dependence, but there's something.  I remember craving weed and feeling anxious and irritable when I kicked a year long every day chronic habit.  I'd open up cupboards and drawers and get massive whiffs of marijuana, even though there wasn't any there and never was any there... I was just really craving it.

Pushed through it, started doing the gym... I wouldn't say my life is fantastic now, I romanticize the idea of weed often, even go back and smoke it sometimes, but I don't really enjoy it anymore.  I quit because I thought it was having a negative effect on my life, and every time I go back to smoke it, I realize that yes, it was having a negative effect on my life, and though things may not be better, they'd be a lot worse if I gave up and just kept toking.  It might be the same for you, it might not, but you'll never know until you make yourself try.




Thank you for being honest. Good to find heart alive on the shroomery. I wish you many blessings and good fortune.
Nothing of excess is a good thing. I have no choice but to stop for weeks or months sometimes on end depending on the circumstance..
Op's circumstance is anger isolation and laziness, all of which I have had similar experience with and no longer have trouble controlling. its much harder to kick anger and laziness than it is to kick a weed habit because imo anger and laziness are spiritual issues,
until i realized that and began using cannabis as a spiritual tool, I was just as in need of a change as op, and spiritual issues cannot be seen with the eye or cured by a therapist imo, they have roots that go deep and must be taken care of first by learning to communicate with his higherself.. which is why imo he doesnt like to be around people while 'high'.. His higher self wants to speak and it takes alot of training to hear it clearly....People can hinder that without even knowing  ..  cannabis will show itself as it was meant to be seen, in a pure state unsullied by the ego when one uses their own will to defeat the ego...

Again simply put, I told Op to "free his mind, so that his ass will follow.."


I consider this a great accomplishment and benefit to all mankind
and I am a superhero fwiw:tongue2:

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OMG its so much fun its running my life. I hear you to it smells good and it taists good when you smoke it yeah it even gets you high how can you stop when your so high and having so much fun? I don't think you will ever stop When you get there GOD will be like i made this its from my kingdom. Use this to get rid of side effects from all these other things man made.




Omg finally..Now i dont have to take a ritualistic cleansing shower for a long night of forum arguing..

Way to clean this thread up Lords:thumbup:


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Edited by rockycrag (09/27/11 09:57 PM)


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