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 HofmannBlotter
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 My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ 
#14970198 - 08/24/11 11:50 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Hi !
I'm a moderate psychedelic user (tripping like every 2 weeks or sometimes 2 - 3 times a month).I had a discussion with my father about my psychedelic use, but of course he's completely against drugs ! For him he classifies heroin as the same as marijuana (In terms of damage/effects). I tried to explain that psychedelics are not the same deals either and I'm reponsable about my use (Well we will say that hum...). He will not listen at all about it and he was very angry with me because I was destroying myself physically and mentally for him (I use mainly RCs type 4-ACO/HO, DOx mainly, and fairly "new" to the 2C-X family). There was some tension between us.
And there was always a bad atmosphere between my father and I, my father have never been very close to me. He has never doing activities with me and don't share the same "feeling" with me.
In the evening, he came out of his desk and he told me : "Ok then, give me a try !". Oh guys I was in shocked ! I said : Ok in a uneasy way and we planned to take a psychedelic experience and perhaps getting closer than the past. (My father had 47 years old).
I'm feeling not well cause I introduced my girlfriend also with Psychedelic just yesterday... with 2C-C (10 mg) (barely feel nothing, just feeling sedated, very faint OEV and quick duration), she also try mushrooms but did nothing really psychedelic on her except laugher !
Guys, I'm very uneasy about the situation now !
I can't access to classic psychedelic.
I can only introduce to :
2C-C
2C-D
4-HO-MIPT
4-ACO-DMT
I'm afraid of the vasoconstriction, I'm fairly "new" to the 2C-X family and don't know much about how are the vasoconstriction with these stuff compared to acid for exemple or 4-HO/ACO. He's aged, don't want to give him hypertension or more serious things...  since he's diabetic type 2 and had cholesterol.
Don't tell me to get acid or shrooms cause I can't ! (I'm not taking the risk of findind acid in my city cause it's likely DOI/DOC (confirmed, I used DOC/DOI a lot, I know the feeling and the lenght).
So which one will be the more appropriated ? I will take care of course for dosage and safety. But man it makes me weird and nervous. He will be very upset if anything going wrong...
(Sorry for my english I try to write the best I can)
Some tips ? 
Edited by HofmannBlotter (08/24/11 11:56 AM)
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tymoteusz3
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 Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: HofmannBlotter]
#14970210 - 08/24/11 11:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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2C-C is supposed to be the best to introduce someone...
But I would give him MDMA
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14970394 - 08/24/11 12:35 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I am 32 and I have type 1 diabetes since I was 11 and the last time I went to the doctor they said my cholesterol was a tad bit high but everything else was good and this is after the fact of years and years of drug use 
My point is though I have never experienced any negative effects from drugs used in moderation. So I think your father will be fine.
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: Ganja420Boy]
#14970471 - 08/24/11 01:05 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I hope this ends well for you
Would not skimp of the trip... He is old enough to handle a good level 3 experience. I can not advise you on the choices you have... Sort of wish you hand some Mushrooms, natural and long history of use....
Would be good to do some real preparation for him... Set and setting... Comfortable... Safe... Time period totally without any expectations of him... Turn off the phone...
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: HarryL]
#14970501 - 08/24/11 01:14 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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This has the potential to bring your relationship to a new level... I'm super excited for you! I can't advise you on which chemical, but like Harry said make sure you give him a decent trip that will tear his walls down! Once those walls are down.. you guys will be connecting like never before.. Good job, good luck, and be safe!
Don't do it tonight though!! Wait a bit! This isn't something you want to be rushing into..
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Edited by metalfaith (08/24/11 01:34 PM)
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: metalfaith]
#14970521 - 08/24/11 01:18 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I'd probably go with the 4-aco-dmt over the others.
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: drr]
#14970775 - 08/24/11 02:23 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Perhaps use a vasodialator if worried about vasoconstriction?
-DARK Chocolate or pure cocoa nibs
-Kola nut
-Alcohol
(...some vasodialators off the top of my head.)
Would aspirin work to ease vasoconstriction by the thinning of the blood?
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: flickedbic]
#14970786 - 08/24/11 02:27 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I'd give him a moderate dose of 2c-c. It's gentle on the mind and gives good visuals and has room for introspection and deep conversation if you let it.
I'm with tymoteusz though. MDMA is a sure-fire bonding experience.
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: drr]
#14970800 - 08/24/11 02:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
drr said:
I'd probably go with the 4-aco-dmt over the others.
This
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: HofmannBlotter]
#14970816 - 08/24/11 02:35 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Definitely 4-AcO-DMT. It's the most typical of a real psychedelic trip.
Though I haven't tried 4-HO-MIPT, but of the other 3, definitely 4-AcO-DMT.
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: BothHands]
#14971288 - 08/24/11 04:18 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I'll say 4-aco-dmt as well. It's basically mushrooms but very clean with very little body load to put him off. I've only tried 2ce out of the 2c's and that had a pretty off body load my first time I did it
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: chooken]
#14971311 - 08/24/11 04:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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HEs new to drugs and everything. Don't give him something he can have a bad trip on. He is already going to be nervous as FUCK.
Give him something so he can see just how wrong he was, something light and nice like 2C-C..
Don't worry about vaso it won't be an issue. Don't even think about it.
Or drink a beer on comeup
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14971416 - 08/24/11 04:53 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I've never tried any of the substances you've listed, but have heard great things about the ACO-DMT, and I see people I respect above have also recommended that, and they probably have first hand experience. I agree with those who said to give him an acceptable dose. Not too high but not too low.
However, be aware he might have personal sensitivity to any chemical.
I would advise that you NOT take a psychedelic, and just be there to be the "elder" of sorts, since you have more experience than he does. You can be fully aware should something unexpected (and unrelated to the trip) comes up (i.e. having to pick up a stranded family member somewhere an hour away, getting an uncomfortable phone call, someone showing up at your place unexpectedly, etc. etc. etc.) He actually has taken an unbelievably open-minded stance considering his first reactions. I'm sure this will be a good experience for you both.
Or maybe take an extremely low dose for yourself, like 1/4 your normal dose.
Anyway, enjoy!
(this isn't another one of your tricks, is it?)
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: tymoteusz3] 1
#14971424 - 08/24/11 04:55 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I read somewhere that this situation ends w/ dad killing the cat. Don't do it. He's gonna go crazy and become a cid head.
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: airclay]
#14973753 - 08/25/11 12:21 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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^ Hahaha
I would go with the 4-aco-dmt on this one if I were you. Have you taken it before? Don't skimp him on the dose but dont make him go bat shit crazy either and kill the family pet.
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: airclay]
#14973764 - 08/25/11 12:24 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
airclay said:
I read somewhere that this situation ends w/ dad killing the cat. Don't do it. He's gonna go crazy and become a cid head.
Hey what ever happened to that guy?
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: drr]
#14973870 - 08/25/11 12:42 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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If this is real, I would advise that you take some time to figure out what your father's favorite music is. Make a mix/playlist of that stuff, have lots of candles in the room, and just mellow with him until he wants to talk on the comedown (he will want to talk if you haven't traumatized him).
Take a dose for yourself that is above threshold, but not full-on party dosage. Don't take him to a club or a bar and don't have your friends around. Just stay at home in a chill space.
If your post is legit, you could potentially break through to a new level of understanding with your father.
Keep us posted, please. This is intriguing.
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: Phenocide]
#14974904 - 08/25/11 06:46 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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No dwpinneal this is not a trick... I let him show some Wikipedia & Erowid pages about the 2C-C,D, 4-HO-MIPT and 4-ACO-DMT. He will choose by himself. We don't do it yesterday. I want to be sure that he's ready when he wants. Don't want to force him and have regrets cause the tension between us are not very good..
I also need to explore 2C-C by myself more since I've not been on higher dose with it. Anyway i'm somewhat familiar with the 4-HO/ACO series. First I was thinking of DOC but the vasoconstriction is more pronounced than the others and the duration of the experience is not really great for a first time. Good idea for the beer on the comeup but in my country beers are reputed to be the strongest in the EU... 
Will let you updated !
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Edited by HofmannBlotter (08/25/11 06:51 AM)
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: HofmannBlotter]
#14975128 - 08/25/11 09:05 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
No dwpinneal this is not a trick
Just having some fun my brother, no worries  I apologize if that came off as inappropriate.
Keep us posted, hope you bring the family closer 
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Re: My father wanna try a psychedelic experience with me tonight =\ [Re: dwpineal]
#14975265 - 08/25/11 10:12 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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4-AcO-DMT
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