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 Almost time for the Man  1
#14941381 - 08/18/11 10:37 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I've been thinking about what I consider spiritual experiences in my life. Outside of the psychedelic experience and solo experiences in the back country the experience of being at Burning Man I consider the most spiritual event I've ever encountered and especially when it comes to being with other humans.
It's very hard to convey what that experience is like to someone who has never been. They've made some very nice documentaries such as http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Burning_Man_Beyond_Black_Rock/70052384?trkid=2361637 ; or http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Burning_Man_The_Burning_Sensation/70125591?trkid=2361637 ; but they hardly capture the reality of the event. Maybe the only time in my life where I've felt at home with my fellow humans. Sharing, caring, in a gifting community that does not allow commerce and frowns upon barter and openly encourages giving freely of what you have to share with others, emotionally or materially.
The 40 thousand people tripping and raving in the dozens of huge music and dance venues along with the thousands of bikes and the few art cars that are allowed and everyone else on foot in constant motion for seven days is amazing. Especially at night when the light show is beyond comprehension and feels like being at the center of the Universe.
Then the literally hundreds of amazing and free workshops all day long will make one rue any amount they feel they have to get some sleep. Along with this the extremely harsh desert environment of the playa with the almost constant heat and dust storms makes it something unforgettable and a complete challenge for your psyche.
Unbelievable amounts of kindness and shit faced grinning. In three years I never saw a negative altercation. (I'm not saying they don't happen or that this is heaven on earth, I just never saw one, and something really weird is that with no traffic control and thousands of bikes weaving in and out constantly I never once saw two bikes crash, something I can't explain)
I encourage everyone here to try and make while it still exists. I can't help but think you'll agree and mark it as one of the most important events of your life.
My only advice is truly come prepared for the difficulties and learn everything you can from their web site, http://www.burningman.com/ ; to help you be prepared to really have some fun. I think it really takes a year to prepare for the event. I've been three times now and hope to see you there either next year or the next. 
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14941587 - 08/18/11 11:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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have the funds but don't have the time
do you take your dogs?
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Kickle]
#14941640 - 08/18/11 12:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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You can't take dogs or pets as the environment is too harsh. The dust alone can do them in.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14941646 - 08/18/11 12:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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oh.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Kickle]
#14941652 - 08/18/11 12:07 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Kickle said:
have the funds but don't have the time
do you take your dogs?
if i bring my cat will someone be kind enough to feed him provide him fresh water and a litter box which is changed daily? since it's such a giving place and all.
sure people are happy they are getting laid and having a drug fest. it's like the good old days. you give them a "donation" (ha ha) and they provide you with an artificial environment where people can pretend to actually care for a while. like woodstock but back then they maybe really did care then at least the Stock has stood the test of time. i bet people bring laptops and cell phones now but hide them and pretend they aren't doing outside business.
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I can see why you feel that way but you'll never know until you experience it for yourself.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14941700 - 08/18/11 12:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I'm still trying to recover from Harbin LOL.
While it does sound interesting you know me I am not much into crowds. I need a lot of personal space and that place sounds confining.
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Well I hear that but remember you are surrounded by 20 miles of empty playa and beyond that scores of miles of deserted (by humans) desert mountains. It's hard to find an insect and not any plants at all. Many come and plant themselves at the outer edges of the city and can look one way and see no humanity and look the other and see the party. I think next time I go I will park on the edge. I agree it's very very intense. Yet like you I'm not attracted to crowds usually ever. This is an exception.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942009 - 08/18/11 01:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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A good lady friend and I are driving over 2000 miles to check this thing out for the first time this year. We have a couple friends who are part of the building crew that creates and breaks down the event's infrastructure every year, but mostly we're looking forward to seeing what it's all about with little guidance.
Unless of course you were going to be there, Mr. Ice. I could use an enlightened master. 
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942098 - 08/18/11 02:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds pretty awesome. I hope to get there next year - or at least something like it. I am going to pick up four tickets as soon as they go on sale, which I believe is in the winter?
Do you think something like a toned-down BM could act as a sustainable city? Just a loose musing... Imagine the Burning man city, perhaps a fraction of the size with equally less people, acting as a perma-culture community/farm. People work for 24 hours a week in the fields for food, others in constructing living arrangements, others in education, etc etc.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942204 - 08/18/11 02:22 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Me and my friend have been talking about going for awhile. Seems like lots of good vibes 
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942249 - 08/18/11 02:28 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I'd go if I weren't a square.
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Quote:
Sleepwalker said:
A good lady friend and I are driving over 2000 miles to check this thing out for the first time this year. We have a couple friends who are part of the building crew that creates and breaks down the event's infrastructure every year, but mostly we're looking forward to seeing what it's all about with little guidance.
Unless of course you were going to be there, Mr. Ice. I could use an enlightened master.
Not this year but I hope when you return you will PM me with your impressions.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Lion]
#14942375 - 08/18/11 02:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Lion said:
I'd go if I weren't a square.
Go as a square. Many do.
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942434 - 08/18/11 03:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Id like to do this, i've been to Glastonbury festival which was definitely a great experience, Burning Man does sound like some serious fun, all i've really read about it has been from Orocks book about 5MeoDMT & it still sounds legendary
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14942506 - 08/18/11 03:13 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said:
Sounds pretty awesome. I hope to get there next year - or at least something like it. I am going to pick up four tickets as soon as they go on sale, which I believe is in the winter?
Do you think something like a toned-down BM could act as a sustainable city? Just a loose musing... Imagine the Burning man city, perhaps a fraction of the size with equally less people, acting as a perma-culture community/farm. People work for 24 hours a week in the fields for food, others in constructing living arrangements, others in education, etc etc.
Here you go.
http://www.ananda.org/ananda/village/
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Edited by LunarEclipse (08/18/11 03:13 PM)
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942524 - 08/18/11 03:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Well I hear that but remember you are surrounded by 20 miles of empty playa and beyond that scores of miles of deserted (by humans) desert mountains. It's hard to find an insect and not any plants at all. Many come and plant themselves at the outer edges of the city and can look one way and see no humanity and look the other and see the party. I think next time I go I will park on the edge. I agree it's very very intense. Yet like you I'm not attracted to crowds usually ever. This is an exception.
I am still trying to recover from our visit to Ananda and all that phoniness and communism.
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Very different experience I would imagine. Most people at the Man are just in a good mood and don't have much time to preach.
It's not that BM is the cure for what ails the world. It's at best only a band aid. What it is IMO is a whole bunch of mostly liberal live and let lives that are in a very very good mood. Finding a huge group of people that are all in a good mood is a very unique experience imo. I doubt it could be sustained for long. It's a break from the focus on how hard life can be or how we have to see so much suffering around ourselves and on our planet. It's a real vacation imo. And you can bring a tad back with you when you leave. And you can look forward to next year.
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“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”
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Re: Almost time for the Man [Re: Icelander]
#14942591 - 08/18/11 03:31 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
Very different experience I would imagine. Most people at the Man are just in a good mood and don't have much time to preach.
It's not that BM is the cure for what ails the world. It's at best only a band aid. What it is IMO is a whole bunch of mostly liberal live and let lives that are in a very very good mood. Finding a huge group of people that are all in a good mood is a very unique experience imo. I doubt it could be sustained for long. It's a break from the focus on how hard life can be or how we have to see so much suffering around ourselves and on our planet. It's a real vacation imo. And you can bring a tad back with you when you leave. And you can look forward to next year.
Well it must be fun you rave about it year after year.
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Id like to do this, i've been to Glastonbury festival which was definitely a great experience, Burning Man does sound like some serious fun, all i've really read about it has been from Orocks book about 5MeoDMT & it still sounds legendary
You would thrive there. There are a ton of folk who would relate to you and what you are experiencing. When you get there you get a fat booklet of workshops on everything from cosmic consciousness to yoga, to permaculture, to drumming to sacred sex practice (tantra) to how to make a hat, the psychedelic experience or learn how to make a drum and play it. The only hard part is deciding which ones you will have to miss.
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