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Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip
    #14853065 - 07/31/11 08:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I don't know that I will ever take that much LSD again. Not that I didn't enjoy it, it was incredible. But I feel like I am just abusing it taking that much. I mean, I trip primarily to help me solve psychological issues and I find that lower doses work better for that purpose. Also, this is the first time I have taken LSD and felt dumber afterward. I am sure this will resolve itself in a day or two but I am having cognitive issues and still not thinking clearly. Every other LSD trip I've had has left me mentally sharper and more intelligent. 

I am also surprised at how, despite taking this much, a lot of the phenomena I've read about happening on LSD did not happen to me. No synesthesia, nothing really resembling what I keep reading about in the book LSD psychotherapy by stanislov grof about experiencing yourself as a baby in the womb, but oh well. It's different for everyone I guess. I just think it is funny that the first time I smoked weed, I was seeing and tasting music and yet 14 hits of LSD cannot do that to me.

Anyway, I am curious to see what an even higher dose would be like. Say, double what I took. Anyone have any thumprint experiences or just taking like 30 hits or more that they want to share with me? I'd love to hear them. As intense as it was (and it was the most shattering experience of my entire life, my most intense trip ever aside from salvia breakthrough or when I injected 180 mgs of ketamine but those are just so difeferent) I felt like I was maybe only halfway, or not even halfway, to the maximum of what LSD can do.

I just can't see myself ever wasting 30 hits or more in one day, when I could trip 6 times off that amount. And then it seems to take forever to finally come down be able to sleep.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: porcupine]
    #14853118 - 07/31/11 09:00 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Well I'm glad you made it back okay. I'm sure you'll feel better in a day or two.

Everybody's gotta test their limits in order to know where they are.

I've never actually had any experiences that I could distinctly point to as synthesthasia, and I've been tripping for almost a full decade now. I've definitely met with entities and had archetypal transpersonal experiences...

So give us some details about the experience. Can you even remember much? I'd imagine that a trip like that would be a bit of a blur...


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: porcupine]
    #14853129 - 07/31/11 09:02 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I have taken 12 hits before but I had some sort of tolerance, the most I have done with no tolerance was 5 and that was pretty wild so I can see that 12 would blow the mind.
I'm really surprised you haven't felt the next-day brain drain feeling before. I have had that every time I use lsd.

But if you wanna read about some crazy lsd doses you must read this thread! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1427364/fpart/1/vc/1
That post should be required reading for all shroomery members.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14853176 - 07/31/11 09:12 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Well I'm glad you made it back okay. I'm sure you'll feel better in a day or two.

Everybody's gotta test their limits in order to know where they are.

I've never actually had any experiences that I could distinctly point to as synthesthasia, and I've been tripping for almost a full decade now. I've definitely met with entities and had archetypal transpersonal experiences...

So give us some details about the experience. Can you even remember much? I'd imagine that a trip like that would be a bit of a blur...




Yeah, I have less than ten memories from my entire ten strip trip after about the 45 minute mark.  And as far as "typical" effects, there aren't any...it strongly depends on the acid itself, your mindset, etc.  I have only experienced synthesthasia once that I know of, on two pretty decent hits, and I didn't even realize it was happening until look back at the experience later.  I smoked a bunch of weed during the peak and I was thinking the room tasted like a red crayon for some reason, then I looked around and felt my mouth just being overwhelmed...not even just my tongue/taste-buds, the taste resonated through my whole mouth.  It was the next day when I thought about it and realized when I tasted red crayon I was look at a red gatorade! :lol:


And yes, I'm aware red crayons probably taste just like every other color, but I was tripping. :shrug:


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: porcupine]
    #14853185 - 07/31/11 09:15 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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I am also surprised at how, despite taking this much, a lot of the phenomena I've read about happening on LSD did not happen to me. No synesthesia, nothing really resembling what I keep reading about in the book LSD psychotherapy by stanislov grof about experiencing yourself as a baby in the womb, but oh well. It's different for everyone I guess. I just think it is funny that the first time I smoked weed, I was seeing and tasting music and yet 14 hits of LSD cannot do that to me.




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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: LSDylan]
    #14853192 - 07/31/11 09:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

You felt like you were half way to what LSD could do on 12 hits?

Either you're a hard head or your hits a bullshit.

I get my ass kicked on 2... 3 is considered heroic. I did a 10 strip with my buddy like 4-5 years ago and it's still one of my most memorable experiences.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14853196 - 07/31/11 09:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
Well I'm glad you made it back okay. I'm sure you'll feel better in a day or two.

Everybody's gotta test their limits in order to know where they are.

I've never actually had any experiences that I could distinctly point to as synthesthasia, and I've been tripping for almost a full decade now. I've definitely met with entities and had archetypal transpersonal experiences...

So give us some details about the experience. Can you even remember much? I'd imagine that a trip like that would be a bit of a blur...





I posted a trip report in the trip reports forum. I didn't go into too much detail though. I can remember most everything from the tail end of the trip but the beginning is really a blur. I was blown away by the intensity of it and almost had a panic attack when the trip began. I remember becoming a part of my room and forgetting that I was a person for a while. I remember realizing that I was God. I remember wandering around my backyard and just getting lost in the visuals. I remember looking in the mirror and seeing myself transform into something that resembled an elephant. And I don't really know what else, just lots and lots of trippy stuff.

The most profound part, was the realization that being is bliss. Our nature is bliss and we just obstruct it through misidentifying ourselves with the body, the mind, etc when in fact we are pure awareness. I already knew that though, it's just a profound experience every time because it's so ridiculously simple and yet we don;t see it.

Another large part of the trip, was devoted to regressing to early childhood experiences. I remember how I was much closer to the bliss of being then. It made me wonder if kids could realize enlightenment more easily than adults, provided they were given proper instructions.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: LSDylan]
    #14853216 - 07/31/11 09:19 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: Subconscious]
    #14853228 - 07/31/11 09:21 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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You felt like you were half way to what LSD could do on 12 hits?

Either you're a hard head or your hits a bullshit.

I get my ass kicked on 2... 3 is considered heroic. I did a 10 strip with my buddy like 4-5 years ago and it's still one of my most memorable experiences.




Even 12 hits of bomb acid probably isn't nearly half way to what LSD can do. I guarantee you can go way farther than that. If you have the cajones.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: TheDukeofLizards]
    #14853280 - 07/31/11 09:30 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Very interesting. In that case, I still think I won't ever take 14 hits of LSD again because I've already experienced it and I see no need to go back where I was yesterday when lower doses are enough to satisfy me. However, I WOULD take 30 or more hits, simply because that would be completely uncharted territory for me.

Unlike mushrooms, I am not afraid of LSD. It is so blissful for me. Still, I'd hate to think of what a bad trip would be like on 30 plus hits. I am confident enough in my ability to let go that I would seriously consider doing it. The only thing really holding me back, is the cost. I pay $8 to $10 a hit for acid, so that would be like spending almost $300 for a single trip.

Are you ever the same after taking that much? I don't feel like I am quite the same person I was before I dosed yesterday. But, maybe that will change in a few more days.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: TheDukeofLizards]
    #14853286 - 07/31/11 09:31 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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You felt like you were half way to what LSD could do on 12 hits?

Either you're a hard head or your hits a bullshit.

I get my ass kicked on 2... 3 is considered heroic. I did a 10 strip with my buddy like 4-5 years ago and it's still one of my most memorable experiences.




Even 12 hits of bomb acid probably isn't nearly half way to what LSD can do. I guarantee you can go way farther than that. If you have the cajones.




3-4 hits does everything I would ever want and more. I don't think "what LSD can do" is determined just by the dose... but by set, setting, personality, ect.

Now obviously a thumb print would send me out to oblivion compared to 2-3 tabs. Dose certainly is a big factor... but a big part of "what LSD can do" is determined by what you do with the experience.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: porcupine]
    #14853318 - 07/31/11 09:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Very interesting. In that case, I still think I won't ever take 14 hits of LSD again because I've already experienced it and I see no need to go back where I was yesterday when lower doses are enough to satisfy me. However, I WOULD take 30 or more hits, simply because that would be completely uncharted territory for me.

Unlike mushrooms, I am not afraid of LSD. It is so blissful for me. Still, I'd hate to think of what a bad trip would be like on 30 plus hits. I am confident enough in my ability to let go that I would seriously consider doing it. The only thing really holding me back, is the cost. I pay $8 to $10 a hit for acid, so that would be like spending almost $300 for a single trip.

Are you ever the same after taking that much? I don't feel like I am quite the same person I was before I dosed yesterday. But, maybe that will change in a few more days.





I know how you feel. For some reason mushrooms just don't agree with me a lot of the time. I'd take a large, unknown amount acid over 7 grams of mushrooms any day.

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3-4 hits does everything I would ever want and more. I don't think "what LSD can do" is determined just by the dose... but by set, setting, personality, ect.

Now obviously a thumb print would send me out to oblivion compared to 2-3 tabs. Dose certainly is a big factor... but a big part of "what LSD can do" is determined by what you do with the experience.




I definitely see what you are saying. It all depends on who you are, how far you want to go.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: Subconscious]
    #14853321 - 07/31/11 09:38 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

jesus  christ that many hits you better have experienced ego death at least? :trippnballs:


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: aspiringpsychonaut]
    #14853467 - 07/31/11 10:08 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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jesus  christ that many hits you better have experienced ego death at least? :trippnballs:




I think I did, or was very close at least. I've had more complete ego death experiences on marijuana, mushrooms, salvia, DMT and ketamine though. It is somewhat hard to remember but I feel like there was a shred of my ego hanging on throughout this trip.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: aspiringpsychonaut]
    #14853472 - 07/31/11 10:09 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

interesting reading the after effects, i took 5 before i had any tolerance and it really blew my mind. total ego dissolution (did you experience any?), thought i was one of several characters at different times in a zombie movie that was playing on MTV. i'll never let something that bad play around me in that mindset again haha.

but after many more experiences with 3-4 blotters i'm wanting to try a dose like you did soon, overall would you recommend it?

my lucy connects have mostly dried up, and having done it quite a few times i'm ready to try shrooms, really wanting to blast off on a larger dose.


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: Subconscious]
    #14853515 - 07/31/11 10:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Subconscious said:
You felt like you were half way to what LSD could do on 12 hits?

Either you're a hard head or your hits a bullshit.

I get my ass kicked on 2... 3 is considered heroic. I did a 10 strip with my buddy like 4-5 years ago and it's still one of my most memorable experiences.




Even 12 hits of bomb acid probably isn't nearly half way to what LSD can do. I guarantee you can go way farther than that. If you have the cajones.




3-4 hits does everything I would ever want and more. I don't think "what LSD can do" is determined just by the dose... but by set, setting, personality, ect.

Now obviously a thumb print would send me out to oblivion compared to 2-3 tabs. Dose certainly is a big factor... but a big part of "what LSD can do" is determined by what you do with the experience.




I agree. That is why I felt like my dose yesterday was overkill. I am more interested in using the drug to aid in self-realization. I am not sure whether that is a good or a bad idea, but I've already gone so far down the drug road that I don't see it doing a whole lot more damage than has already been done. Anyway, I find low doses more suited to this use. On high doses, the drug does everything for you. On low doses, the trip is more similar to your every day consciousness and in that sense, it's easier to take back what you learn. I don't feel like I can take back the understanding I get on high doses of psychedelics. It's so profound and then the next day, you forget it. Where is the use in that?


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Re: Some more post trip thougthts from my 12-14 hit LSD trip [Re: porcupine]
    #14855065 - 08/01/11 07:43 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Synesthesia is funny like that..  Every time I think about it I don't end up getting it either, but the times I have gotten it have been the most memorable parts of all my psychedelic experiences so far.  Actually seeing sounds and music and tasting color is something I can only hope to experience again some day..

I'm glad you had an awesome trip though man, take it easy with that stuff though.


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