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zzripz said:
Howeve this witness who claims was affected by the explosion of that day, and climbed out of the supposed hole the plane is supposed to have entered says she say no metal, no plane parts, no luggage...? Take a look at the video where she explains and let me know what you think

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something smashes into building, erupts in a huge fireball, you walk out the
hole with all that fire and come out unburned? I think not. I also dont see
someone looking around for luggage and plane parts while everything is
fucking burning for hours...yeah, time to question the credibility of this
wannabe hero/attention whore

wheel hubs C ring of pentagon


hydraulics from inside the pentagon


rotor hub for a turbine


another wheel at the pentagon


more wreckage at the pentagon


bodies and parts at the pentagon




and all this came out of an empty portion of the building that was being renovated... plane debris and luggage and shit

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zzripz said:
Howeve this witness who claims was affected by the explosion of that day, and climbed out of the supposed hole the plane is supposed to have entered says she say no metal, no plane parts, no luggage...? Take a look at the video where she explains and let me know what you think

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something smashes into building, erupts in a huge fireball, you walk out the
hole with all that fire and come out unburned? I think not. I also dont see
someone looking around for luggage and plane parts while everything is
fucking burning for hours...yeah, time to question the credibility of this
wannabe hero/attention whore

wheel hubs C ring of pentagon


hydraulics from inside the pentagon


rotor hub for a turbine


another wheel at the pentagon


more wreckage at the pentagon


bodies and parts at the pentagon




and all this came out of an empty portion of the building that was being renovated... plane debris and luggage and shit

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zzripz said:
Alright, questions to you: Why do you think that witness would lie? What would she benefit?

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How do you definately know that those phtographs you show of plane wrckage actually are part of the alleged plane crash atthe Penatgon on 9/11 (I must admit that is very first picture of a supposed human remains from the crash I have seen)? They are all close ups pictures wo how do you know for sure?

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many of the pictures are all over conspiracy websites, several images of
bodies were leaked and can be found via on google images, several of the
images are not close ups and certainly show sections of the pentagon, one
in particular is used by conspiracy theorists as evidence for the missile
claim, of course they dont tell you that was the exit hole on the c-ring,
it had already passed through 5 walls and countless other crap before
making that hole

if the conspiracy sites posted it would it no mean they're authentic?




where's the video or photographic evidence of work crews carting airplane
debris into the building, surely in the days surrounding the crash there
were thousands of media crews and private individuals there photographing
and taping everything that went on

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Do you agree that CCTV footage, and possible ofther film footage of a plane flying towards and into the Pentagon were confiscated and refuse to be shown by the authorites? If no, can you show me your sources that contradict that? And if you agree, why would they do that?

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Lawsuits to Obtain Videos

At least two plaintiffs have attempted to obtain videos seized by the FBI, using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The first, documented at Flight77.info, began with a request to the FBI in October of 2004. The second, undertaken by the Judicial Watch, Inc. began with a request to the Department of Defense (DOD) in December of 2004. Following is a timeline of the requests and subsequent lawsuits. Entries relating to the second case are distinguished with dates colored gray.

    * October 14, 2004: Scott A. Hodes, on behalf of his client Scott Bingham, sends a request to David Hardy of the FBI requesting any videos "that may have captured the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001". The request letter mentions videotapes from the Citgo Gas Station and the Sheraton National Hotel.
    * November 3, 2004: The FBI replies to Bingham's request stating that their search "revealed no record responsive to your FOIA request".
    * November 17, 2004: Hodes files an appeal of Bingham's FOIA request with the U.S Department of Justice (DOJ), citing evidence that the videotapes mentioned in the original request exist.
    * December 15, 2004: Christopher J. Farrell of Judicial Watch, Inc. writes to James Hogan in the Office of Freedom of Information/Security Review of the DOD requesting that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), DOD, and FBI produce:
      any and all agency records concerning, relating to, or reflecting the following subjects:

      (1) Video camera recordings obtained by federal official(s) and/or law enforcement from a Nexcomm/Citgo gas station in the vicinity of the Pentagon on or about September 11, 2001.

      (2) Pentagon security video camera recording(s) showing Flight 77 strike and/or hit and/or crash into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

      (3) Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) video camera recording(s) obtained by any federal official(s) and/or law enforcement from the Virginia Department of Transportation ("VDOT") and/or the VDOT "Smart Traffic Center" on or about September 11, 2001.
    * March 7, 2005: The DOJ replies to Hodes' November 17 appeal, admitting that it did possess records responsive to the request but that it could release the records because such a release "could reasonably be expected to interfere with law enforcement proceedings."
    * January 26, 2005: The DOD advises Judicial Watch, Inc. that it possesses a videotape responsive to the December 15, 2004 request but declines to produce the videotape, citing U.S.C 552(b)(7)(A).
    * March 8, 2005: Bingham's attorney files a lawsuit with the United States District Court for the District of Columbia stating that the FBI is in violation of the FOIA for "failing to adequately respond to plaintiff's FOIA request, including failing to adequately search for and release records that the plaintiff believes the agency is in possession of, and for failing to timely respond to the plaintiff's administrative appeal."
    * April 18, 2005: The DOJ files a response to Bingham's March 8 lawsuit denying the plaintiff's request and asking the judge to dismiss the plaintiff's Complaint with prejudice.
    * April 19, 2005: District Judge Paul L. Friedman orders the defendants to file a motion to dismiss or a motion for summary judgment in the case brought by Bingham on or before June 21, 2005.
    * June 10, 2005: The DOD denies Judicial Watch's administrative appeal, claiming that the video is exempt as part of an ongoing investigation involving Zacarias Moussaoui.
    * August 1, 2005: Jeffrey D. Kahn, an attorney for the DOJ's Civil Division files a 23-page MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT. Scans of the document are posted on Flight77.info.
    * August 29, 2005: Hodes files a Memorandum of Points and Authorities in Support of Plaintiff's Opposition to Defendants' Motion for Summary Judgment and a STATEMENT OF FACT ON WHICH THERE EXIST A GENUINE ISSUE TO BE LITIGATED in response to the DOJ's motion for summary judgment.
    * September 9, 2005: Kahn files a REPLY BRIEF IN FURTHER SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT
    * September 9, 2005: Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire of the FBI's Counterterrorism Division files a DECLARATION describing her search for records responsive to Bingham's FOIA request. Maguire admits to determining that 85 videotapes in the FBI's possession are "potentially responsive" the request, that she personally viewed 29 of the tapes, and that she located only one videotape that showed the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon. Maguire also refers to "one videotape taken from a closed circuit television at a Doubletree Hotel in Arlington Virginia," but states that it did not show the impact of Flight 77.
    * September 26, 2005: Hodes files a request seeking "copies of 85 videotapes in the possession of the FBI described in the declaration of Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire dated September 7, 2005.
    * October 20, 2005: The DOJ sends a letter to Hodes claiming that the requested material is exempt.
    * October 24, 2005: Hodes appeals the DOJ's October 20 claim that its material is exempt.
    * February 22, 2006: Judicial Watch, Inc. files a lawsuit in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia seeking declaratory and injunctive relief against the Department of Defense for its refusal to disclose records sought under the FOIA request.
    * May 5, 2006: Judge Friedman orders the defendants to show cause on or before May 26, 2006 why their motion for summary judgment should not be denied as moot, noting that the criminal proceedings against Moussaoui have ended.
    * May 16, 2006: Judicial Watch obtains two videos from the DOD, and posts them on their website. The site is down for about half of the day due to demand.
    * September 15, 2006: Judicial Watch announces the release of video from CITGO gas station. 3  The video consists mostly of views of the interior of the gas station and does not appear to capture the attack.
    * December 2, 2006: Judicial Watch obtains a video recording from the Doubletree Hotel in Arlington. The video, which does not include a view of the Pentagon's facade, shows an explosion but does not capture an approaching jetliner.

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just because so many people are too stupid to make that request doesnt
mean the government isnt releasing the footage.

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AsAboveSoBelow said:
National Security, punk

We're not releasing shit





we need a snarling cheney gramelin

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because it's a false flag attack

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in particular is used by conspiracy theorists as evidence for the missile
claim, of course they dont tell you that was the exit hole on the c-ring,
it had already passed through 5 walls and countless other crap before
making that hole

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where's the video or photographic evidence of work crews carting airplane
debris into the building, surely in the days surrounding the crash there
were thousands of media crews and private individuals there photographing
and taping everything that went on

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blkjkrabbit said:
where is the transcript for the black box for the pentagon plane? or ANY of the 9/11 planes? hmmmm?

from my understanding, black boxes are ALWAYS found at crashes as they are made of titanium and practically indestructible. 

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lavod said:
Pris: Is it really inconceivable to think that anyone staging a false flag conspiracy would take the time to plant certain items within the building or on the attacking craft to make it appear believable that it was an AA 757 filled with people?

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is it really inconceivable that it happened as has been reported?

I saw that episode of lost too

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zzripz said:
why are the 85 videos not released?


Can anyone seriously believe that the most heavily defended building in the world would not be able to capture an incoming plane on one of its many surveillance cameras?

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