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 Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages?  [Re: Anthony]
#14767821 - 07/14/11 03:02 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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just wondering, say my parents asked for the full text dialogues, how far would they date back to? is there a limit?
they would basically have every single text you've ever even thought about sending 
@OP, perhaps its time for you get your own cell phone?
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14767862 - 07/14/11 03:10 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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too much money man. why pay for my own when i can still ride free?
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: Anthony]
#14767896 - 07/14/11 03:19 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I have Verizon, and once, about 4 years ago, I was suspicious about texts on a line on my family plan that is in my name. On the verizonwireless.com website if you sign in as the account holder's number you can see when, where, and what numbers all the texts were. But you can't see what was actually written.
I called Verizon back then, and they told me you basically can't get what's actually said on the text. They basically told me that mostly only police can make Verizon look up that info, with a court order. But also they told me that they don't keep the text of a text in storage for more than a couple months. So if someone is suspicious of a text a few months ago, it's probably too late anyway to see if it's still being stored. And they won't tell you either way unless they have a court document in their hands.
Of course, all this was 4 years ago. And things change
But I don't think you have anything to worry about unless you got picked up by the cops and they became suspicious that you were sending incriminating texts. Your parents will have a hell of a time getting any text from your texts, and they aren't even suspicious now!
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#14767910 - 07/14/11 03:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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lets hope their policy hasnt changed! haha
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: smalltownkid096]
#14767991 - 07/14/11 03:42 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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They should be able to get them.
And why not? They are the rightful owner of the account, so I don't see it as a privacy issue.
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: badchad]
#14768005 - 07/14/11 03:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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They should be able to get them.
And why not? They are the rightful owner of the account, so I don't see it as a privacy issue.
But not the rightful owner of the texts. Those records belong to the phone company, and they're only released by court order.
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: smalltownkid096]
#14768018 - 07/14/11 03:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Don't text about drugs
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: guywiththegun]
#14768026 - 07/14/11 03:53 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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But not the rightful owner of the texts. Those records belong to the phone company, and they're only released by court order.
That's an interesting angle. Why does Verizon own the texts? Sending data/texts over Verizon's network certainly doesn't give them ownership to it.
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: Heffy]
#14768032 - 07/14/11 03:55 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Don't text about drugs
Exactly... come up with some sort of code words or something.
Example:
Instead of saying "Hey man you got some shrooms"
Say "Hey man I need some pizza toppings"
Instead of saying "Got any weed?"
Say "You seen Mary today man?"
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: badchad]
#14768143 - 07/14/11 04:35 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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But not the rightful owner of the texts. Those records belong to the phone company, and they're only released by court order.
That's an interesting angle. Why does Verizon own the texts? Sending data/texts over Verizon's network certainly doesn't give them ownership to it.
If you signed a contract, it suuuuure does! Where would those text messages be stored if Verizon didn't own them? And we know they are stored for at least a while, because the police are able to file court orders and get copies of your text messages. I'm not sure why or how, but your phone company owns every text message you've ever sent. I'm still trying to find a reference, but this is the way it has always been told to me by law enforcement/attorneys.
You send the text, verizon owns that text, and if the "man" wants that text, verizon hands it over.
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: guywiththegun]
#14768300 - 07/14/11 05:18 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, and on a tangent
I'll bet if Bush era authorities had their way any police officer would have instant access to all Verizon's records if they even had probable cause on a suspect
At least with the time it takes to get verizon's records they might have been dumped/erased at that point anyway. Funny how bureaucratic red tape works in your favor once in a while huh?
At least Verizon and the Gov't aren't jacking each other off TOO much.
The sheeple would notice
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#14768376 - 07/14/11 05:34 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, and on a tangent
I'll bet if Bush era authorities had their way any police officer would have instant access to all Verizon's records if they even had probable cause on a suspect
At least with the time it takes to get verizon's records they might have been dumped/erased at that point anyway. Funny how bureaucratic red tape works in your favor once in a while huh?
At least Verizon and the Gov't aren't jacking each other off TOO much.
The sheeple would notice
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: smalltownkid096]
#14768401 - 07/14/11 05:40 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry, just a tangent.
OP, aren't you being a little paranoid? Are your parents really suspicious enough to try to look at your texts? If that's true then there's a little trust issue huh? I mean, don't they realize it's normal for you to experiment with drugs?
Why all the secrecy?
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#14768446 - 07/14/11 05:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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my parents are pretty strict. i dont think they would react too kindly if they knew what i do
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14768500 - 07/14/11 06:04 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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You shouldn't be using your cell phone to talk about drugs thru with out text messages.
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: guywiththegun]
#14768555 - 07/14/11 06:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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If you signed a contract, it suuuuure does! Where would those text messages be stored if Verizon didn't own them? And we know they are stored for at least a while, because the police are able to file court orders and get copies of your text messages. I'm not sure why or how, but your phone company owns every text message you've ever sent. I'm still trying to find a reference, but this is the way it has always been told to me by law enforcement/attorneys.
You send the text, verizon owns that text, and if the "man" wants that text, verizon hands it over.
Not that I'm doubting you, just thinking out loud.
I work for a company that does contract work. We use Verizon. We often email and/or send a variety of documents back and forth. Sometimes I'll leave them in my inbox.
I can guaran-fuckin-tee that Verizon does not own that information. So I wonder why texts are treated differently.
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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: badchad]
#14768583 - 07/14/11 06:30 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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it sucks cause someone on the other end could read something you didnt want them to see or you could be held accountable if you phone line is tapped.
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: badchad]
#14768626 - 07/14/11 06:44 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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If you signed a contract, it suuuuure does! Where would those text messages be stored if Verizon didn't own them? And we know they are stored for at least a while, because the police are able to file court orders and get copies of your text messages. I'm not sure why or how, but your phone company owns every text message you've ever sent. I'm still trying to find a reference, but this is the way it has always been told to me by law enforcement/attorneys.
You send the text, verizon owns that text, and if the "man" wants that text, verizon hands it over.
Not that I'm doubting you, just thinking out loud.
I work for a company that does contract work. We use Verizon. We often email and/or send a variety of documents back and forth. Sometimes I'll leave them in my inbox.
I can guaran-fuckin-tee that Verizon does not own that information. So I wonder why texts are treated differently.
There was a police station a while back that had Verizon phone plans. Without ever giving a written notification, they went from saying "your text messages are your property, just pay your overages" to "your text messages are now emails, and are thus department property." So this cop who has been texting these broads, not even anything illegal, suddenly has all these sexually explicit text messages he sent to these girls made public, and he's under investigation (rightfully) for using city funded phones to sext women in and out of the department.
He and two of the women sued for breach of privacy. They lost, appealed, it went to the supreme court, and the supreme court upheld the original ruling.
If anything, if you're on a work or family plan, your text messages are even LESS your property than they would be if you were on your own plan.
Your emails are sent in a different manner than text messages most of the time, and thus aren't subject to this. This is strictly SMS messages, email uses the 3G network or whatever-the-fuck they have now.
http://www.businessbrief.com/who-owns-text-messages-on-company-phones/
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: guywiththegun]
#14768911 - 07/14/11 07:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Does verizon email parents the text messages? [Re: smalltownkid096]
#14769832 - 07/14/11 11:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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http://community.vzw.com/t5/Billing-and-Usage/Can-you-get-print-outs-of-text-messages/td-p/179536
I think im all set then?
dude did you really need 3 pages of people telling you that you're fine before you actually believe it??
I propose a  for this underage kid.
Seriously quit being so fuckin paranoid. Maybe you should lay off the weed if it makes you think your parents are going to get a detailed report of your texts just so they can say "LOOK!!! BILLY TEXTED SOMEONE ASKING FOR A "DUB"" OMGGGG!!!! World is coming to a fuckin end!!!
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