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 giza
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 You're only worth what you can do. 
#14699195 - 06/30/11 11:59 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Good subject for decent discussion imo, kinda going from thing to thing here so may take a little for me to get back.
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: giza]
#14699208 - 07/01/11 12:00 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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when one sees the suchness of actions, there is no action
in this light, is one worthless? is who worthless? how much does nothing cost? who do you pay?
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giza
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: deff]
#14699290 - 07/01/11 12:14 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Well if there is a creator out there then he/she/it is who you owe
Edited by giza (07/01/11 12:14 AM)
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: giza]
#14699322 - 07/01/11 12:19 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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what if you were the creator, just ignorant of the creation process
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: deff]
#14699338 - 07/01/11 12:22 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Haha, I only fear the creator for the fact evil exists. To believe one is such would be hard.
Also since history exists, makes the possibility of other beings being alive wayy before us or we are reincarnated constantly and still don't know it.. A lot of possibilities
Edited by giza (07/01/11 12:24 AM)
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: giza]
#14699353 - 07/01/11 12:25 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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does evil actually exist? what does it mean 'to exist'? are you sure it's not just a manifestation of your own mind?
when one's mind is confused, there's existence and non-existence
when one's mind simply is, there's neither existence nor non-existence
maybe? 
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: deff]
#14699575 - 07/01/11 01:07 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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How is one ever to be sure though? I guess through science?
So what you can do is all you can control in this reality.
Edited by giza (07/01/11 01:10 AM)
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: giza]
#14700492 - 07/01/11 08:08 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
giza said:
How is one ever to be sure though? I guess through science?
So what you can do is all you can control in this reality.
OK. You are in a gay bar. Why is that?
OK. You are in a bar. You sit next to a young lady and she asks you "What do you do"?
What do you do?
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: LunarEclipse]
#14700524 - 07/01/11 08:24 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I don't really understand worth. Worth in whose terms? I guess natural poets, musicians, artists are worth something 'more'... There is a kind of natural hierarchy of worth... somewhere.
We are all worth the same because we are all the same. This is this. THISSSSS ISSSSSS ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT / thou art that... I understand that part, and if you understand it too you'll see what I mean (and what is meant by there being no enlightenment) ... It's all very funny... I couldn't help but laugh spontaneously while making tea before, it almost comes in waves now. The state of mind we've been fighting is the only state there is... he he he.
It's all worth nothing but a hearty laugh.
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that there's God in everyone
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Re: You're only worth what you can do. [Re: circastes]
#14700575 - 07/01/11 08:53 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Last time on mushrooms I had this thought that I live and die for nothing, and it felt very unburdening. I'm worth squat in the long run. The parental 'you are important' stuff has it's place too I guess, but there's a reason I do mushrooms for existential problems instead of talk with 'helpful' people about them 
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