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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/president-obama-is-they-key-to-decriminalizing-marijuana-tommy-chong-says.html
President Obama, with one quick signature, could remove a huge hurdle in the war on drugs, marijuana icon Tommy Chong said Friday on CNN.
Minutes before the actor and comedian told a former advisor to the White House drug czar to "shut up," Chong said Obama has the power to move pot off the same list where other drugs like LSD and heroin reside (Schedule 1) to a less restrictive list (Schedule 2) where drugs like opium and morphine reside and which can be prescribed by doctors.
"All President Obama has to do is sign an executive order rescheduling marijuana from Schedule 1, which says it has no medical use whatsoever, to a Schedule 2, which would allow it to be sold by prescription only. Then we'd be all done," Chong said on the CNN show "In The Arena."
Paul Chabot, a former White House senior advisor to the director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy and founder of the Coalition for a Drug Free California, naturally had issues with the co-star of "Cheech and Chong's Up in Smoke" as well as with Reps. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who Thursday introduced HR 2306, a bill that would shift enforcement of marijuana laws to the states.
"It's very disappointing to have two grown adults pushing a marijuana agenda," Chabot said, adding, "Shame on Barney Frank and Ron Paul, a very big disappointment for American leadership."
Chabot, a Republican who unsuccessfully ran for California Assembly in 2010, continued: "We have woken up to the medical fraud marijuana problem that's skirted all around our nation. Times are changing. It will be back to community and family values."
And that was when Chong, who was imprisoned for 9 months for selling glass bongs, began to get angry.
Chong: Do you know Montel Williams? Montel Williams has MS. It's a debilitating disease that he keeps under control by using marijuana.
CHABOT: OK.
CHONG: Melissa Ethridge, Melissa Ethridge suffered from cancer and she survived through the use of marijuana.
CHABOT: Got it.
CHONG: Shut up for a minute. Let me finish.
CHABOT: Very disappointing.
CHONG: It has medical use. That lie you just said where it had no medical use whatsoever, it's a lie.
Chabot isn't alone in believing that marijuana has no medical use. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith said his panel, which the Paul/Frank weed bill is required to venture through, would not even consider it because of several factors, including marijuana's lack of medical benefits.
"Marijuana use and distribution is prohibited under federal law because it has a high potential for abuse and does not have an accepted medical use in the U.S.," Smith said on Thursday.
Candidate Obama in 2004 called the war on drugs "an utter failure," and although he said he did not believe marijuana should be legalized, he said the weed should be decriminalized.
Edited by veggie (06/26/11 01:57 PM)
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: batman returns]
#14673996 - 06/26/11 10:59 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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It's all fucking ass backward, and I'm sick of it. What about cigarettes and alcohol? Where are the medical benefits to those? And last time I checked, nicotine was proven to be more addictive than heroine...
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: mrroboto187]
#14674009 - 06/26/11 11:09 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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"It's very disappointing to have two grown adults pushing a marijuana agenda," Chabot said, adding, "Shame on Barney Frank and Ron Paul, a very big disappointment for American leadership."
So marijuana is childish now?
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#14674082 - 06/26/11 11:33 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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So marijuana is childish now?
Yes. It's teh kidz!!!! That's why we must save them with prohibition! The genetically modified super skunk is infiltrating our elementary schools!
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#14674229 - 06/26/11 12:14 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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"It's very disappointing to have two grown adults pushing a marijuana agenda," Chabot said, adding, "Shame on Barney Frank and Ron Paul, a very big disappointment for American leadership."
So marijuana is childish now?
yeah, i can't believe this guy.... lol he thinks only kids smoke???
just be sure we dont vote him back in...
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: Don Juan] 1
#14674500 - 06/26/11 01:33 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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How can anyone trust Obama on this issue when he also said he wouldn't continue federal raids on medical marijuana dispensaries, then he goes off pull some shit about taxes, trying to undermine everything he said.
Obama is a phony, he has lied consistantly and I wouldn't ever trust the guy with this issue.
Does he have the power? Absolutely, but he is probably going to continue beating around the bush and do things under the radar as he said his administration is doing with the gun control policies and has proven to do so by working with the IRS to try to put a stop to medical marijuana dispensaries, even though he said there was no longer going to be federal prosecution. Pretty fucked up that he even admitted to that in my opinion.
Gotta love the way politicians like Obama lie straight to
our faces, then somehow get elected.
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: highdroponics]
#14674540 - 06/26/11 01:45 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Obama is a shill actor fromer CIA agent.  He sure has done a good job in the name of the NWO. Wrecking the american and worldwide economy and started a handful new wars now. broken about every promise from the campaign and thats just the most obvious things he did.
I could see them pulling this card by marihuana legalization on the federal level to boost his votes a bit. but it wont help. Go check out Ron Paul instead. He will make every effort possible to legalize pot and end the general war on drugs. among other things.
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#14674612 - 06/26/11 01:59 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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A corporate militarist isn't going to make any fundamental changes to the status quo, regardless of skin color. We may as well have just elected GWB to a third term; it's all the same.
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#14674719 - 06/26/11 02:28 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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The states are the key to decriminalizing marijuana for now, IMO. No national general is going to put his own agencies out of business.
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: Remix]
#14674744 - 06/26/11 02:33 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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fucj that nuigger
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: orison319]
#14674776 - 06/26/11 02:42 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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fucj that nuigger
he said only 2% of people with a card use medical marijuana for an illness.
"Yeah doctor you know I have this card but I just use it to get high."
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: the human abstract]
#14674779 - 06/26/11 02:43 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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you were probably talking about 
The twat in the video was a dumb mother fucker.
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#14674882 - 06/26/11 03:07 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I'mma tell it how I see it.
All these politicians are puppets. They taking power away from the people because WE ALLOW THEM To. IMO tho Democracy cannot ever work cus in any form of government, there is always a ruling force behind another so while we have an illusion of a government representing the people, but it's really more communistic, that the government is telling the people they are representing them so we don't over throw them just in a sneakier way.
I believe Zhuangzi's philosophy for Anarchism.
"The world does not need governing; in fact it should not be governed," and, "Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone." (Yes that is from Wiki lol but good quotes none of the less)
I believe that the idea of government simply doesn't work, it hasn't for thousands of years since we existed. But yet history keeps repeating itself cus we make the same mistakes...and aloowing us to be governed is one of them. Fuck government, Anarchism all day Renegade Way
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: DZ74]
#14675134 - 06/26/11 03:56 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I have to say i disagree with you on the idea that democracy will never work.
I think it would be beneficial to your argument to look into the true definition of democracy not the sham we pollute the name with. While I think that the true ideal would be anarchism, it just is not practical at this point in human history.
And regarding zhuangzi, you have to put what he says into context, he was a daoist of sorts if i remember and that statement you quoted isnt necessarily advocating anarchism but just reiterating basic daoist views.
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: batman returns]
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Yeah, he really dropped the ball on this issue. I'm hugely disappointed.
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change.lol.
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: aiyobro]
#14675253 - 06/26/11 04:27 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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we've gone from the past to the future from red to yellowwwww
chaaaaaange
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: grimrs] 1
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Democracy is a scam no matter how you look at it. 51% of the population gets to tell the other 49% what to do, through an election of political officials thay may or may not actually represent the people that voted for them. That is borderline communism in my eyes and the US definitely shows signs of it, specifically the east coast where it's becomming more and more of a police state every day, because that's what the majority thinks is best for the greater good.
Democracy worked well on colonial-era pirate ships where there were decisions needed to be made for the benefit for all aboard during non-war times but it's time for the US to realize its initial government structure had a lot of good coming out of it, as well democracy has some good in it too. We need to use our constitution as well as our founders' views on what good government was to make this country all that they wanted it to be as well as what modern knowledge has shown it needs to be.
It would be much better to see this country run by people who can analyze statistics from research studies like scientists and make sure that evey last person is accounted for and represented. Leaving it up to a majority vote seems barbaric to me in this modern age, its time for us to evolve.
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politics are just entertainment for the wacko's anyway
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Re: President Obama is the key to decriminalizing marijuana, Tommy Chong says [Re: DZ74]
#14675717 - 06/26/11 06:22 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Don Juan said:
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Odd_Nonposter said:
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"It's very disappointing to have two grown adults pushing a marijuana agenda," Chabot said, adding, "Shame on Barney Frank and Ron Paul, a very big disappointment for American leadership."
So marijuana is childish now?
yeah, i can't believe this guy.... lol he thinks only kids smoke???
just be sure we dont vote him back in...
Unfortunately this douchebag is not a Congressman, and I don't think he's even in an electable position. Just a leader of some coalition of overprotective parents that want to impose their parenting values on the rest of us adults.
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DZ74 said:
I'mma tell it how I see it.
All these politicians are puppets. They taking power away from the people because WE ALLOW THEM To. IMO tho Democracy cannot ever work cus in any form of government, there is always a ruling force behind another so while we have an illusion of a government representing the people, but it's really more communistic, that the government is telling the people they are representing them so we don't over throw them just in a sneakier way.
I believe Zhuangzi's philosophy for Anarchism.
"The world does not need governing; in fact it should not be governed," and, "Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone." (Yes that is from Wiki lol but good quotes none of the less)
I believe that the idea of government simply doesn't work, it hasn't for thousands of years since we existed. But yet history keeps repeating itself cus we make the same mistakes...and aloowing us to be governed is one of them. Fuck government, Anarchism all day Renegade Way
I'm not entirely sure we actually "allow" them to do take away our freedom. Think - when you've gone to place your vote at the polls, have you ever actually physically WATCHED them count the votes yourself after all is said and done? Who's to say they pay a rat's ass worth of attention to how many people voted for who? For all we know they might take all of our votes, throw them in the shredder, and announce whoever they like as the next President of the United States.
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