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 EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? 
#14587086 - 06/09/11 08:52 PM (2 years, 11 days ago) |
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well i have a pf jar which i spawned to aged horse poo. during the time it was colonizing i was moving so it was hard to keep at a constant temperature of 85 it was usually at around 72-78 degrees.i ordered the spores from spores101 ive heard mixed reviews about them mostly bad ones saying their underdosed. three months after spawning to horse poo and its STILL not done almost but not yet, im wondering why another bacteria hasnt taken ahold of this substrate considering its been so long am i just lucky? after/if they finish colonizing their going in the terrarium and ill let yall know how it goes but for now wish me luck!
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14587105 - 06/09/11 08:56 PM (2 years, 11 days ago) |
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If it aint done in two weeks, trash it.
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14587107 - 06/09/11 08:57 PM (2 years, 11 days ago) |
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i forgot to mention that the pf jar itself took about 2 months to colonize at room temp 70-75
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14587115 - 06/09/11 08:58 PM (2 years, 11 days ago) |
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dam i should trash it? but its got mycelium growth on it and it progresses just extremely slow
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14587173 - 06/09/11 09:12 PM (2 years, 11 days ago) |
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Slow mycelium is not worth anything. You could have bought new syringes, made new jars and have harvested mushrooms before your jar even colonized.
And if you have mycelium that takes 2 months to colonize a jar, why on earth would you spawn it to something and make it colonize MORE material, it already had a hard enough time. You should have just fruited it. At this point, toss it and start over, no use holding out on something that will never happen. If a jar takes more then a month to colonize (really more then 2-3 weeks) its not good genetics. And thats just how it is with spores, you never know what your gonna get. If its slow, I dont use it. Spawn to bulk should be done in 2 weeks, if its not, trash it.
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: scatmanrav]
#14602086 - 06/12/11 07:18 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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Slow mycelium is not worth anything. You could have bought new syringes, made new jars and have harvested mushrooms before your jar even colonized.
Damn it, o well we learn from our mistakes thanks for the info scatmanrav i really apreciate it. Im never buying from spores101 again!
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14602134 - 06/12/11 07:26 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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What size pf jars are you using ?
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: redcat]
#14602319 - 06/12/11 08:09 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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it was a 1/2 pint jar spawned to a tray of horse poo. im currently have a pint of popcorn and a quart of popcorn that that i also inoculated with the same spores syringe and i have to say that considering how "quick" popcorn is at colonizing i have to conclude that these spores were the cause of this slow colonization period because its been 3 weeks and the pint jar of popcorn is id say about 85% done and the quart one is about 30% done. ive only grown popcorn and a couple of brf grows but ive had a quart of popcorn completely colonize in less than 2 weeks! so wth is going on? temps are at a steady 80-85
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14602429 - 06/12/11 08:38 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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You need to start a new project sounds like..
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: jpshroomer]
#14602474 - 06/12/11 08:48 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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yes your right about that jp. well what do you guys think should be my next grow whats your favorite trains out their?
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14602499 - 06/12/11 08:57 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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TC is a good 1, agressive myc. And I have got large fruits from them but there is a shit ton out there so do some research and find 1 you like.
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14602559 - 06/12/11 09:09 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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during the time it was colonizing i was moving so it was hard to keep at a constant temperature of 85 it was usually at around 72-78 degrees.
72F to 78F is the correct temperature, 85 is far too hot. If you attempted to colonize a bulk substrate at 85F, it's ruined. Toss it out and follow correct procedure and temperature next time.
As already said, if the pf jar also took two months, it's trash. A brf tek jar should fully colonize in two to three weeks. If as I suspect, you tried to colonize the pf tek jar at 85, then you've messed up on both.
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14602608 - 06/12/11 09:21 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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im sorry i forgot to specify, when i said 85 i added 10 degrees Because i know the cake itself produces 10 extra degrees estimated so i actually had the jars at 70-75 degrees in other words i kept the jars at room temperature the whole time. so temp couldnt be a problem. besides all i ever grow is 1 quart popcorn and this is the first time in 4 years that i have had a SLOW colonization problem with popcorn, brf i have no experience with so i cant say anything about it
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: jpshroomer]
#14602621 - 06/12/11 09:24 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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TC is a good 1, agressive myc. And I have got large fruits from them but there is a shit ton out there so do some research and find 1 you like.
i know i researched this site for a year so that i wouldnt get that "do some research" response it was just a friendly question. i know what strains are out their i just wanted an "opinion"
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: joey711]
#14602763 - 06/12/11 09:54 PM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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Hey RR that link is sweet. Nice sample videos Im new to the mycology world I didnot know I did not need a pc for brf never really looked into it. Were is a good site to buy some brf like a 5 pound bag or something close?Quote:
joey711 said:
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jpshroomer said:
TC is a good 1, agressive myc. And I have got large fruits from them but there is a shit ton out there so do some research and find 1 you like.
i know i researched this site for a year so that i wouldnt get that "do some research" response it was just a friendly question. i know what strains are out their i just wanted an "opinion"
i gave you my opinion I think TC is an excellent strain...
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: jpshroomer]
#14603545 - 06/13/11 12:52 AM (2 years, 8 days ago) |
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You dont NEED a pc for PRF, you can steam it. If you have a PC, its best to though of course.
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Re: EXTREMELY long colonization time wth? [Re: scatmanrav]
#14605598 - 06/13/11 01:11 PM (2 years, 7 days ago) |
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During my first attempt my pf jars took around 6 weeks to colonize and they still produced a decent yield i say ride it out and you may get lucky
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