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 bort
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 Re: Ego loss on dxm?  [Re: KahTahToe]
#14563587 - 06/05/11 07:17 AM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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 OverStoned
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Re: Ego loss on dxm? [Re: KahTahToe]
#14564923 - 06/05/11 01:40 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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KahTahToe said:
Overstoned, I love the video or whatever in your sig. It's Awesome!
Haha thanks, it's an animation of a fractal zooming in. I forgot where I found it, but it is indeed very awesome!
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I havn't done dxm in years, but I recall simply blacking out on all of my high dose experiences- similar to alcohol. I suppose it would be possible to experience something akin to "ego death"... but more likely just lose consciousness before you get there. At least in my experience...
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Moo456
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DXM is funny like that for some people. I can remember much better on DXM than alcohol.
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Re: Ego loss on dxm? [Re: Moo456]
#14565349 - 06/05/11 03:21 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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It is my belief, and the belief of some people I know, that DXM and ketamine are dissociatives and the classical psychedelics are associatives, basically having exactly the opposite effect from one another, but one is definitely not the antidote for the other. I read some pharmacology about dissociatives and psychedelics and it turns out that there is something going on with post-5ht2a-receptor-synapses and 5ht2a agonists that involves the glutamate receptors and n-methyl-d-aspartate receptors, but from the other side of the neuron. The psychedelics affect this area of the brain indirectly, and the dissociatives, being all tied-in with glutamate and NMDA affect the same area of the brain directly.
What I'm getting at here with my half-remembered pharmacology info is that dissociatives and psychedelics work on the same areas in the brain in basically opposite ways and produce remarkably similar results. I have experienced what amounts to an ayahuasca trip with around 350mg DXM. In fact, I felt the exact physical sensations and mental activation that I experience from none other than DMT, which had me quite convinced that I lucked out and was given the power of ayahuasca with the availability of dxm, started to believe also that the DXM had triggered a release or the synthesis of DMT from within. Which is totally feasible, given that we have all the enzymes and precursors and the product all in our bodies.
It was also apparent that my spirit had made a pact with the spirits dwelling in the mimosa plant that I was to have the power of dmt available to me in the form of dxm. It was confusing and clear at once.
This is just a side note really. The main thing I'm getting at is that I am quite experienced with this ego-death-loss thing and I definitely have gotten it from DXM.
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emeraldlife88
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Re: Ego loss on dxm? [Re: Moo456]
#14565383 - 06/05/11 03:30 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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Ego loss can occur on any psychedelic substance that heightens your awareness in one way or another.
I have felt a loss of ego, or rather depersonalized and derealized, on high amounts of THC. I believe the reason for anxiety under cannabis is because THC is a actually more of an ego deterrent than people think, especially at high doses.
Those feelings are very weird, although they are nothing to be afraid of, but rather investigated. To lose a sense of self is understanding that you are but a thought in your own in head, and that you is only one of many people in a universe that never ends. The feeling that reality is unreal or dream-like is because you understand or become uncomfortable with the subjectivity of the experience. Before, reality was it was. In a sense, you believed your reality was everyone elses. But in fact, reality is but through the sight of an eye.
Sometimes these feelings can leak into sober reality because they are not unfounded. They are worthy things to understand about yourself and your place in the universe, and a humbling experience at that. These feelings can often be perceived as strange, weird, uncomfortable, anxious, or even scary because realizing this does the opposite of boost our ego, it somehow detracts from it if you fear it. It plays with sanity as sanity becomes a contradiction itself.
However, once you understand and recognize the feeling, you will be better able to deal with it and not become anxious during it. That's where the learning really begins.
And remember, even if you are feeling really far out, you will stop obsessing over it at some point. The drug will wear off, and your mind will such to another gear. You just can't fear it and let it make you think life is now different or harder because you know some secret. Life is still the same - this understanding has always been there in the annals of the universe to know - it's just that now... you know it.
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