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Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning
May 2, 2011 - Denver Post
DENVER—Colorado lawmakers are planning new limits on marijuana growing operations following a federal warning that it's still a violation of federal law to grow and possess the drug.
The Senate Judiciary Committee approved a bill Monday that would change rules for how pot can be cultivated and sold. Changes included reducing the number of plants that can be grown and laws banning felons from working in the industry. It also would allow testing of plants to determine dosages.
Last week, the top federal prosecutor in Colorado sent a letter to legislators saying pot regulations could put state employees at risk of federal prosecution.
Tom Raynes, executive director of the Colorado District Attorneys' Council, said the letter from John Walsh, the top federal prosecutor in Colorado, shows the federal government is running out of patience with Colorado and other states that have hundreds of dispensaries and tens of thousands of medical marijuana users.
He said the government previously stated that it would not make it a priority to go after terminally-ill people using marijuana. However, the proliferation of marijuana patients has forced the federal government to take a closer look at the industry.
"People need to be on notice that nothing you do, nothing the state does insulates them" from federal prosecution, Raynes told the committee.
He said proposed limits on the number of plants being grown have "no basis in fact," making the point that one plant is too many, according to federal law.
Michael Dougherty of the Colorado Attorney General's Office said that even the proposed restrictions don't go far enough.
"We're still operating in clear violation of federal law. The federal government is taking a new look at this. This letter is a clear message to the legislature and people of Colorado that violation of federal law won't be tolerated."
Lawmakers from both parties have previously said they intend to move ahead with this bill, which addresses who can work at dispensaries and changes other regulations. The proposal was up for review before the federal warning.
The letter from Walsh closely resembled warnings sent by federal prosecutors in California, Washington and Montana—which are among 15 states that have legalized medical marijuana.
The notification warns that states shouldn't pass bills that appear to authorize medical marijuana businesses because the drug is still illegal under federal law.
Colorado's marijuana regulations—set to take effect this summer—mandate who can register to sell or grow the drug. The rules also give state regulators seed-to-sale tracking of the drug.
The bill currently would add new regulations for makers of cannabis-infused food, such as pot brownies, among other changes.
Walsh told Colorado officials that federal prosecutors do not intend to go after "seriously ill individuals who use marijuana." However, Walsh said, the federal government won't ignore the manufacture and distribution of pot, even if such activities are permitted under state law.
Democratic Sen. Pat Steadman rejected the federal warning, saying "it's just the federal government being clumsy and heavy-handed."
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: veggie]
#14392303 - 05/03/11 01:59 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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I predicted this.
DocT u see? It's gonna get A LOT worse!
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: LightShedder]
#14392431 - 05/03/11 02:30 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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lol you just posted about it in the other thread. Ah but your right. People have been disagreeing with me. But the movements gonna take some blows and go backwards. How bad and far back? only time will tell.
however though.. People in lucky medicals states probaly have enjoyed a sense of worry free pot liberty since the Obama Administration rolled in that they haven't experienced ever before. I wonder if its enough to make people seriously fight for it to stay around. I mean when I see numbers like 40,000 registered MMJ users in some states, or the fact places like Colorado have gatherings of tens of thousands of people to smoke out. I don't see why that amount of people wouldn't show up to a DEA raid or once that was about to happen. I dont know fucking do something for it or you dont deserve to have it.
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14392463 - 05/03/11 02:39 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yep... Set back indeed. One of these states has to have the balls, right?
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: W4E2E0D]
#14392478 - 05/03/11 02:42 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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so, just as pointed out the entire time people were worrying about medical mj 1000's of other things were made illegal, it was all a distraction, and now your about to lose your mj as well
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14392572 - 05/03/11 03:16 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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I think its funny that there are states like Oregon and Mass. and Maine that have reformed their marijuana laws, and its working. Then other states, like Oklahoma, are stuck with the dilemma of "should we lock them away for the rest of their life or just kill 'em?" This country is so fucking retarded.
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: Joolz]
#14392591 - 05/03/11 03:23 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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it said the proliferation of marijuana patients has forced the federal government to take a closer look at the industry.
but 30 million people on antidepressants is just fuckin dandy!!!??? 
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So, MR government, why can't states have their own custom tailor fitted legislation? Why you gotta push the states around? Now you're tellin' the states that they've gotta change their legal status on marijuana?? Why can't the state decide that, and then you can police the federal lawbreakers it if you decide.
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14392686 - 05/03/11 04:07 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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AbstraKt_I_Am said:
lol you just posted about it in the other thread. Ah but your right. People have been disagreeing with me. But the movements gonna take some blows and go backwards. How bad and far back? only time will tell.
however though.. People in lucky medicals states probaly have enjoyed a sense of worry free pot liberty since the Obama Administration rolled in that they haven't experienced ever before. I wonder if its enough to make people seriously fight for it to stay around. I mean when I see numbers like 40,000 registered MMJ users in some states, or the fact places like Colorado have gatherings of tens of thousands of people to smoke out. I don't see why that amount of people wouldn't show up to a DEA raid or once that was about to happen. I dont know fucking do something for it or you dont deserve to have it.
Dude u r so fucking right! How many cannabis users are there in America? If gay people can rally up and fight for rights why can't cannabis users? Ah, maybe it's cause were all stoned but, we should rally up. Seriously. Someone should organize that on here.
lol I'm literally smoking a bowl right now and notice how I said "someone" else should do it? God damn u see what I mean?
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: Cryogenicz]
#14392690 - 05/03/11 04:08 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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Cryogenicz said:
So, MR government, why can't states have their own custom tailor fitted legislation? Why you gotta push the states around? Now you're tellin' the states that they've gotta change their legal status on marijuana?? Why can't the state decide that, and then you can police the federal lawbreakers it if you decide.
Yes yes. This is what the law calls "blackmail".
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: LightShedder]
#14392821 - 05/03/11 05:28 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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LightShedder said:
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AbstraKt_I_Am said:
lol you just posted about it in the other thread. Ah but your right. People have been disagreeing with me. But the movements gonna take some blows and go backwards. How bad and far back? only time will tell.
however though.. People in lucky medicals states probaly have enjoyed a sense of worry free pot liberty since the Obama Administration rolled in that they haven't experienced ever before. I wonder if its enough to make people seriously fight for it to stay around. I mean when I see numbers like 40,000 registered MMJ users in some states, or the fact places like Colorado have gatherings of tens of thousands of people to smoke out. I don't see why that amount of people wouldn't show up to a DEA raid or once that was about to happen. I dont know fucking do something for it or you dont deserve to have it.
Dude u r so fucking right! How many cannabis users are there in America? If gay people can rally up and fight for rights why can't cannabis users? Ah, maybe it's cause were all stoned but, we should rally up. Seriously. Someone should organize that on here.
lol I'm literally smoking a bowl right now and notice how I said "someone" else should do it? God damn u see what I mean?
Ahaha so true. I really think it just needs some organization.
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#14392823 - 05/03/11 05:30 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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Who'da thought building a ski resort with marijuana money would bring the feds..
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: orison319]
#14393666 - 05/03/11 11:58 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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Who'da thought building a ski resort with marijuana money would bring the feds..
Did someone really do that, or are you be facetious?
I don't think it would necessarily be a bad thing to shut down the stores at this point... IMO... they're not really worth much. This system works fine at a caregiver level... and we need to just outright legalize it anyway, before it's lost, like I said in the other thread, Sativex wants the entire medical market. 2012... make it or break it...
Remember, dispensaries in California where amongst the opposition for prop 19.They are not friends of legalization. They are friends of money... their own money. They forced out the caregivers in Colorado, so I don't see anyone here rushing to the rescue of the poor picked on dispensaries. I say fuck'em. Of course, I do concede there may be a "divide and conquer" mentality at play here from the Fed's pov, but again, I really don't see the dispensary model really benefiting anyone but the owners of the storefronts... $50 and eighth for "legal" weed, fuck you. I know of one that rakes in on average $12,000 a day with that model, pays their head grower 40k a year, no benefits, 70 hours a week, no bonus, no partnership, I mean come on...
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: LightShedder]
#14393685 - 05/03/11 12:06 PM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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LightShedder said:
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AbstraKt_I_Am said:
lol you just posted about it in the other thread. Ah but your right. People have been disagreeing with me. But the movements gonna take some blows and go backwards. How bad and far back? only time will tell.
however though.. People in lucky medicals states probaly have enjoyed a sense of worry free pot liberty since the Obama Administration rolled in that they haven't experienced ever before. I wonder if its enough to make people seriously fight for it to stay around. I mean when I see numbers like 40,000 registered MMJ users in some states, or the fact places like Colorado have gatherings of tens of thousands of people to smoke out. I don't see why that amount of people wouldn't show up to a DEA raid or once that was about to happen. I dont know fucking do something for it or you dont deserve to have it.
Dude u r so fucking right! How many cannabis users are there in America? If gay people can rally up and fight for rights why can't cannabis users? Ah, maybe it's cause were all stoned but, we should rally up. Seriously. Someone should organize that on here.
lol I'm literally smoking a bowl right now and notice how I said "someone" else should do it? God damn u see what I mean?
for any decent change to happen people have to start dieing for it, not potheads, the feds. if everytime the feds pulled a raid they got shot up they would quit soon enough, im pretty sure thats how they got rid of alcohol prohibition.
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Re: Colorado pot bill gets new limits after fed warning [Re: Psychoslut]
#14393690 - 05/03/11 12:08 PM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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lol you just posted about it in the other thread. Ah but your right. People have been disagreeing with me. But the movements gonna take some blows and go backwards. How bad and far back? only time will tell.
however though.. People in lucky medicals states probaly have enjoyed a sense of worry free pot liberty since the Obama Administration rolled in that they haven't experienced ever before. I wonder if its enough to make people seriously fight for it to stay around. I mean when I see numbers like 40,000 registered MMJ users in some states, or the fact places like Colorado have gatherings of tens of thousands of people to smoke out. I don't see why that amount of people wouldn't show up to a DEA raid or once that was about to happen. I dont know fucking do something for it or you dont deserve to have it.
Dude u r so fucking right! How many cannabis users are there in America? If gay people can rally up and fight for rights why can't cannabis users? Ah, maybe it's cause were all stoned but, we should rally up. Seriously. Someone should organize that on here.
lol I'm literally smoking a bowl right now and notice how I said "someone" else should do it? God damn u see what I mean?
for any decent change to happen people have to start dieing for it, not potheads, the feds. if everytime the feds pulled a raid they got shot up they would quit soon enough, im pretty sure thats how they got rid of alcohol prohibition.
That's a great way to usher in a new era of MARSHALL LAW! Bad idea man... be the change... violence begets violence...
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