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 Re: The experience [Re: beam]
#2456885 - 03/21/04 09:46 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Chinacat72 says "several people have eaten over a gram".
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Re: The experience [Re: beam]
#2457703 - 03/21/04 03:35 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
beam said:
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Vulture said:
did you even read it?
yes i did
i edited it cause that's not a very nice attitude to put forth in the pub.
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im sure he mentioned that the visuals and whatnot cannot be explained. Its basically like dieing and then just floating around in eternity and then coming back.
cannot be put into words.
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Cheers free thinker, i'm sure you understand what its like from reading the thread, oh but it can't be easly explained like they said and sorry if i can't except that as a good answer. After reading CC and WR posts i have a lot of respect for them both but i just want to understand it a bit better and if someone takes so much from an experience then in some way they thought something, saw something, felt something or heard something etc. Even if at the time its not possible because of death something has to be comprehended from the experience afterwoulds.
Or is it because someones mind is so shattered from the chemical itself like someones internal map is totally wiped, that your mind is put back together the way the family want's it to be hence the babysitting afterwoulds mentioned. I think a little about this has been mentioned already but would like to understand it a bit better, like what questions you ask afterwoulds.
thanks learyfan, i did read that but wanted to know how much the biggest ever dose was.
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Re: The experience [Re: beam]
#2458113 - 03/21/04 06:19 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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ever try to explain to someone what certain types of music like shpongle or somthing like that is like?
not very easy...its not something that can even remotely be put into words. The english language is just inadiquate.
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 Re: The experience [Re: Vulture]
#2458633 - 03/21/04 08:56 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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So who here would print if given the oppourtunity? 
I would if I had the next few days free, and it was just a little bit.. couple milligrams 
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ive often thought about this. I guess being around the right people like and seeing as they know how to handle the situation i would propably do it.
shit would be crazy
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Re: The experience [Re: Vulture]
#2459414 - 03/22/04 02:23 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you held a print up to my tongue I'd run away screaming nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
it's like the executioner for your ego
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Re: The experience [Re: Wysefool]
#2459957 - 03/22/04 11:19 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Printing is something you really only want/need to do once.
Gah, I can send myself into hyperspace just flashing back.
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i would definitly take a print. it sounds like it could possibly be the most incredible experience a person can go through.
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 Re: The experience [Re: H2OxFlask]
#2467827 - 03/24/04 02:10 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well its definately not something you could just do one day eat and expect to be ok. I would need lots of preparation. Wouldnt just lick some crystal at a festival or anything like that...  I dont even know if I have the tolerance yet, I start to lose my sense of reality at about 1000ug or so, from educated guess 
But if I had the oppourtunity to work with crystal, I would go in for the long haul. Lots of licking up   
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Quote:
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There is a massive difference between 500mcg and a thumbprint.
There not even comparable trips. As for saturation effect this is from medical research in the 50's comparing doses of lsd. There may not be a notacable difference between 1000 and 2000 mcg. There is a huge difference between 1000mcg. and 40 or 50 mg. Of course the reseachers never ventured into this dosage range. Quote:
Would the 10000 mcg that Jim Morrison is reported to have taken before performing the complete version of "The End" be something approximating a thumbprint dosage, or would a thumbprint be even more?
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: ferago2]
#2588763 - 04/21/04 09:27 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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10,000mcg?
No way. I don't believe that. That's a gram of crystal.
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: Learyfan]
#2588816 - 04/21/04 09:34 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, it's 10 milligrams... 1000mcg= 1 mg 1000mg= 1g 1,000,000mcg= 1g
In any event, it's as reliable as anything else that he did in fact take that much... it's reported in all the Doors bios and so on, but I would imagine that with his daily drug intakes he had the tolerance to be vaguely functional even on absurd doses.
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: ferago2]
#2588903 - 04/21/04 09:47 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're right. Thanks.
I guess it's possible then. Chinacat said that Robert Hunter took a gram.
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: Learyfan]
#2588967 - 04/21/04 10:01 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Robert Hunter said he took 250,000mcg. or 1/4 gram This is verified by Bear and other Dead family.
10,000 mcg. is a sheet.
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Oh, ok. Sorry bout that.
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: Learyfan]
#2589455 - 04/22/04 12:03 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not a full print, but I would definitely try like 5mg... considering I have no tolerance aned have only tripped acid once, I think that would be devastating.
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 Re: The Thumbprint [Re: Learyfan]
#2590023 - 04/22/04 06:28 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would take a thumbprint. I'm willing to die and be reborn for a new start.
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: rdnp2035]
#2590633 - 04/22/04 10:37 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm very doubtful I'll ever see LSD crystal, but I've often wondered if a similar or identical experience could be had with synthetic psilocybin. It does have an established LD50 (I think), but i believe it's quite high and it's a relatively benign substance and I don't see any indication in the literature of harmful effects, long-term or otherwise. the dose required to reach those effects would be much higher than LSD, probably at least a gram (about 7oz or so in shrooms, obviously too much for someone to consume w/o overwhelming nausea and other symptoms). the reason I say this about psilo is because i've been reading a good deal of the older literature and it seems in early clinical trials some (but not all) people found the effects of synth. psilo and pharmaceutical (obviously very pure) LSD to be hard to distinguish if not identical, except of course for the onset and duration differences. synth. psilocybin is way different (from what i understand at least) than shrooms, probably because of all the additional chemicals in the mushroom. who knows though, given psilocybin's rarity, it may actually be more likely i'll encounter crystal LSD. still, it's not impossible to do a synth if one was dedicated enough i guess and i don't think the main precursors are watched/listed anyway. sorry if that's kinda long, just throwin it out. peace 
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