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most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)?
    #12196248 - 03/13/10 03:53 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

creating a poll which just asked the question and had all the options wouldn't make sense. if drug x was the most therapeutic but barely anybody has done it, it would show in such a poll as not being therapeutic. hence, each has there separate poll. we can also discuss how you guys use your psychedelic sessions to maximize the therapeutic effect (the benefit you get after the trip, from realizations of the nature of the universe or realizations in traumas that affect your anxiety).

to clarify: only post for drugs you have experience with. it only makes sense that way, and yes, the poll will allow for it.
shrooms
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
lsd
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
mescaline/cactus
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
smoked DMT
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
ayahuasca
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
LSA
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
MDMA
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
2Cs
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
dissociatives
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic
other
You may choose only one
VERY therapeutic
yes, therapeutic
somewhat therapeutic
not therapeutic


Votes accepted from (03/13/10 03:53 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: csrpj]
    #12197080 - 03/13/10 07:07 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

i suppose making this poll at the shromery bias the results (people who love shrooms the most are more likely to vote for shrooms, vs the general psychedelic-using population)


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: csrpj]
    #12197586 - 03/13/10 08:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Others are very therapeutic. LOL @ this poll.


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: moldem]
    #12198719 - 03/14/10 12:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

oh yeah, if you wrote something positive for other, what is it?


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: csrpj]
    #12199002 - 03/14/10 03:44 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I find jabbing Rusty needles into my left nut seems to relive some stressfull isues.


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: Spaced_Cowboy]
    #12199523 - 03/14/10 08:37 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

ayahuasca should be winning by a great margin


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: pornisfun2]
    #12199818 - 03/14/10 10:00 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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ayahuasca should be winning by a great margin



It kinda is, isn't it?


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: moldem]
    #12584750 - 05/18/10 09:16 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

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moldem said:
Others are very therapeutic. LOL @ this poll.




Roflmao. Lets list these off shall we?

Cocaine
Crack
Heroin
Crystal Meth
PCP
Alcohol
Ketamine

Need I go on?

If any of you see these drugs as therapeutic, you should probably get some help :rail2: :syringe:  :pill:  :pill2:  :rail:  :paperbag:  :alc:


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: The.Hatter]
    #12584762 - 05/18/10 09:17 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

The.Hatter said:
Quote:

moldem said:
Others are very therapeutic. LOL @ this poll.




Roflmao. Lets list these off shall we?

Cocaine
Crack
Heroin
Crystal Meth
PCP
Alcohol
Ketamine

Need I go on?

If any of you see these drugs as therapeutic, you should probably get some help :rail2: :syringe:  :pill:  :pill2:  :rail:  :paperbag:  :alc:




Nice, you bump this thread to insult people who find other drugs (the ones you listed) and tell them they need help :facepalm:

I have met people who would find a few of the ones you listed as therapeutic, I would not say they need help


Edited by Shea25 (05/18/10 09:19 AM)


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: Shea25]
    #12584781 - 05/18/10 09:20 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

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Nice, you bump this thread to insult people who find other drugs (the ones you listed) and tell them they need help :facepalm:




Wow...This thread is 2 months old dude. get a life aight? And obviously if someone is addicted to fucking heroin/coke/crack etc., and its therapy to them...they NEED HELP. Wake up and smell the Fungus dude. Don't you have better things to do than harass me? Apparently not. once again...:flipthebird::awedance:


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: The.Hatter]
    #12584791 - 05/18/10 09:22 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

Ketamine can be therapeutic in the treatment of alcoholism and possibly also other addictive drugs:
http://www.heffter.org/docs/hrireview/01/chapter8.pdf

http://www.heffter.org/docs/hrireview/02/chap7.pdf


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: The.Hatter]
    #12584799 - 05/18/10 09:23 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

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The.Hatter said:
Quote:

Nice, you bump this thread to insult people who find other drugs (the ones you listed) and tell them they need help :facepalm:




Wow...This thread is 2 months old dude. get a life aight? And obviously if someone is addicted to fucking heroin/coke/crack etc., and its therapy to them...they NEED HELP. Wake up and smell the Fungus dude. Don't you have better things to do than harass me? Apparently not. once again...:flipthebird::awedance:





First off I am responding to what you said, You never said if they are addicted, you just listed off drugs that you think people need help if they use them.

I think your pretty close minded, Not everyone who does the drugs you listed are addicted to them and for some they can be therapeutic. They don't need some jack ass like you telling them they need help.

Your exact words
If any of you see these drugs as therapeutic, you should probably get some help


Edited by Shea25 (05/18/10 09:28 AM)


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: Shea25]
    #12584843 - 05/18/10 09:32 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

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First off I am responding to what you said, You never said if they are addicted, you just listed off drugs that you think people need help if they use them.

I think your pretty close minded





Lol. I'm closed minded. Very. I can't even begin to believe how closed minded I am...HAHAHA. I'm probably the most open minded person you'll ever meet. I'm sorry if 7 people in my life have died from over doses of the drugs I listed, yet none from the REAL therapeutic "drugs".

Bottomline...

If you use Heroin...YOU. NEED. HELP.
If you use Crack...YOU. NEED. HELP.
If you use etc...

And no you weren't responding to what I said, you are just following me around this site, trying to point out little insignificant things, as an attempt to make me freak out and curl up and submit to you. Not happenin' dude. Stop contaminating these threads, which I'm legitimately replying to, with your little baby games, and attempts to make me mad for some reason. You don't even know me. Why bother child? Shouldn't you be at school right now? You're just proving to me your immaturity. And starting to make me think you're a heroin addict. Once again. :awedance: :flipthebird:


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: The.Hatter]
    #12584855 - 05/18/10 09:35 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

The.Hatter said:
Quote:


First off I am responding to what you said, You never said if they are addicted, you just listed off drugs that you think people need help if they use them.

I think your pretty close minded





Lol. I'm closed minded. Very. I can't even begin to believe how closed minded I am...HAHAHA. I'm probably the most open minded person you'll ever meet. I'm sorry if 7 people in my life have died from over doses of the drugs I listed, yet none from the REAL therapeutic "drugs".

Bottomline...

If you use Heroin...YOU. NEED. HELP.
If you use Crack...YOU. NEED. HELP.
If you use etc...

And no you weren't responding to what I said, you are just following me around this site, trying to point out little insignificant things, as an attempt to make me freak out and curl up and submit to you. Not happenin' dude. Stop contaminating these threads, which I'm legitimately replying to, with your little baby games, and attempts to make me mad for some reason. You don't even know me. Why bother child? Shouldn't you be at school right now? You're just proving to me your immaturity. And starting to make me think you're a heroin addict. Once again. :awedance: :flipthebird:



:facepalm:

:tard:

I stick to just using Mushrooms,LSD and DMT. I'm open minded about all the others ones out there and don't judge people for using them like you seem to do

As for Me "contaminating" threads that's a joke, coming from a guy who bumps old thread left right and center and adds nothing of value to them.  Example, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1498022/page/1


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: The.Hatter]
    #12585506 - 05/18/10 11:59 AM (2 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

The.Hatter said:
Quote:

moldem said:
Others are very therapeutic. LOL @ this poll.




Roflmao. Lets list these off shall we?

Cocaine
Crack
Heroin
Crystal Meth
PCP
Alcohol
Ketamine

Need I go on?

If any of you see these drugs as therapeutic, you should probably get some help :rail2: :syringe:  :pill:  :pill2:  :rail:  :paperbag:  :alc:




Ummm, Ketamine, PCP, and even Meth have been used in Therapeutic sessions. The Meth allows you to open up more and the PCP/Ketamine allows you to remember old memories and some other things that are amazing if you use it in moderation, not every other day, like is easy to do, since it is an escape, but it's also an entrance,  to finding more about yourself and your psyche, and that will help you.

Every single one of those substances has medicinal value, except for the crack/Base, which is still Cocaine, but it's freebase instead of HCL. Besides that, they all can be used in a medical setting, weather it be eye surgery with Cocaine, Pain relieving with Heroin, Anesthesia with PCP or Ketamine, Poison antidote with alcohol, etc. So, who needs help now. I don't do any of these substances anymore, except for the occasional drink, and a shot of Ketamine every once in awhile. Please do your research though, before you give a personal opinion.


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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: Shea25]
    #12585530 - 05/18/10 12:06 PM (2 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Shea25 said:
Quote:

The.Hatter said:
Quote:


First off I am responding to what you said, You never said if they are addicted, you just listed off drugs that you think people need help if they use them.

I think your pretty close minded





Lol. I'm closed minded. Very. I can't even begin to believe how closed minded I am...HAHAHA. I'm probably the most open minded person you'll ever meet. I'm sorry if 7 people in my life have died from over doses of the drugs I listed, yet none from the REAL therapeutic "drugs".

Sounds like a personal problem, not anything more. Don't you believe if these people had known doses of Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, etc. that more than likely they would still be here today. Also,  just because they didn't use the substances medicinally, doesn't mean they can't be used that way. It's like saying that somebody who is burned on 90% of there body wouldn't benefit from having Heroin as a pain suppressant, just because somebody you know died from it, from not doing a test shot, or getting cut ass shit. Oh, let me tell you that I've known more people than I can count who have died from OD's of all types, including Heroin, Cocaine, Benzos, Alcohol, Barbs, and other so called, non-medicinal substances. Just think about this for a sec.
Bottomline...

If you use Heroin...YOU. NEED. HELP.
If you use Crack...YOU. NEED. HELP.
If you use etc...

And no you weren't responding to what I said, you are just following me around this site, trying to point out little insignificant things, as an attempt to make me freak out and curl up and submit to you. Not happenin' dude. Stop contaminating these threads, which I'm legitimately replying to, with your little baby games, and attempts to make me mad for some reason. You don't even know me. Why bother child? Shouldn't you be at school right now? You're just proving to me your immaturity. And starting to make me think you're a heroin addict. Once again. :awedance: :flipthebird:



:facepalm:

:tard:

I stick to just using Mushrooms,LSD and DMT. I'm open minded about all the others ones out there and don't judge people for using them like you seem to do

As for Me "contaminating" threads that's a joke, coming from a guy who bumps old thread left right and center and adds nothing of value to them.  Example, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1498022/page/1




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Re: most therapuitic psychedelic or drug (poll)? [Re: csrpj]
    #14269208 - 04/10/11 07:59 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I'd assume aya.


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