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First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think
#14243101 - 04/05/11 04:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Hello I hope everyone's day is going well. My quick question to you is whether this bulk tub should be put in to fruiting or left wrapped up to colonize more?
- First bulk ever done on Hpoo - Zstrain. We can see lots of little rhizo development on top, but is it enough for an optimal flush?

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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14243114 - 04/05/11 04:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Is it fully colonized?
It looks that way minus the small patch.
Let it colonize as much as it can, then wait 4-7 days, then fruit.
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14243132 - 04/05/11 04:32 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I should also ask this second question: Ninja put a casing layer on this (verm/coir) over the Hpoo substrate - (unfortunately at the time he thought casing was needed but found out from you folks that it wasn't needed)
Will a casing layer of verm/coir over the Hpoo lead to smaller fruits than if it were fruited just Hpoo without the 50/50 casing?
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14243142 - 04/05/11 04:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Applying a casing layer is ideal IMO.
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14243143 - 04/05/11 04:34 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I watch for when the myc. starts to crawl up the walls. I figure when it starts using energy to span non-nutritive areas then it has tapped everything it needs from the bulk sub.
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14243236 - 04/05/11 04:49 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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It was originally left to colonize for a week without a casing layer, once it got to about 80% a casing layer was added then left another week and now its at about 90%. Theres a spot a couple square inches wide on the underside of that has not fully colonized yet, but it's been like that for a week and hasn't shown any progress, maybe because the substrate is to moist there. Check the pick below, but other than that its been about 2 weeks and colonized well everywhere else.
Why would the bottom-middle take so long to colonize/colonize so slowly? Whats the consensus here

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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14243271 - 04/05/11 04:56 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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I've had subs that didn't fully colonize the bottom, I attribute it to my spawn to sub ratio. At 1:1 I'd expect the sub to colonize completely. At 1:4 or higher, I'd expect the bottom to not be fully colonized.
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: m00nshine]
#14243298 - 04/05/11 05:00 PM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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You will be fine man. I wait until the top looks like what you have and then wait 4-7 days for consolidation.....
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: m00nshine]
#14246103 - 04/06/11 03:36 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Great tid bits of info, thanks for the advice dudes!
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14288119 - 04/14/11 12:43 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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***Update**** Where's the fruits? Been 8 days and here's what the fruits look like. Wax paper was added. Why the lack of pins? any ideas?? (the bulk tub in the picture, not the cake)
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Re: First bulk tub, time to fruit? - What does shroomery think [Re: deepninja]
#14288237 - 04/14/11 01:23 AM (1 year, 1 month ago) |
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Judging by the placement of the one visible hole in the picture, I'm betting you have a total of 4 holes and the 2 on the long sides are too high up. If all 4 holes are at that height, you've got a linear air flow going through the top of your tub. You'll want to put another pair of holes lower, just above the substrate surface, to create a circular flow of air as a result of the convection current produced.
I could be horribly mistaken, and a quick pic of your hole placement would prove me wrong. Still though, IIRC the climbing mycelia on your stipes is a sign of high humidity/low FAE.
hope this helps
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